Lights on as Cockroaches run for cover

[zeitgeist]

DUmmies are waking up to the data mining going on with DU3.  Oh dear,this may not turn out well. It now appears the 99% of DUmmies don't want to contribute to the 1% of overlord's vacay and college funds.

This is from the DU2 where a small band still meets in resistance.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2463050

woo me with science  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-11-11 06:26 PM
Original message
The DU privacy rules were changed between December 5 and 7, 2008,
 Edited on Sun Dec-11-11 06:31 PM by woo me with science
right after Barack Obama was elected. I would have put this in the previous thread discussing it, but it appears to have been locked.

That was when the new language indicating that they can sell our personal information with the website was added. The entire statement is longer and appears more corporate and lawyerly.

I don't remember the change.


December 5, 2008 Privacy Statement: http://web.archive.org/web/20081127000254/http://www.de...

December 7, 2008 Privacy Statement: http://web.archive.org/web/20081216012801/http://www.de...


.
 
Refresh | 0 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top

Response to Original message


1. Have you read the privacy rules at DU3?
 Just wondering if they are any different from the two versions you post here.
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top

 Leopolds Ghost  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-11-11 07:31 PM
Response to Original message
2. What?
  
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top

 woo me with science  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-12-11 01:40 AM

Response to Reply #2
6. It was in reference to a subthread in here.
 Edited on Mon Dec-12-11 01:40 AM by woo me with science
The discussion started here, but the thread was locked, so I was just continuing it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



Sorry if that was confusing.  
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top

 Poll_Blind  (1000+ posts)        Sun Dec-11-11 07:55 PM
Response to Original message
3. Not only that, it's the combination of the newest DU3 Privacy Policy and those buttons...
 ...that is bugging me and at least a few other users.

You can see the difference under popular Firefox plugins like Ghostery or NoScript.

Under DU2, the only script running was Google Analytics.

Under DU3, there are a lot more:
Facebook Social Plugins
Google +1
Google Adsense
Google Analytics
Twitter Button

Most people don't run plugins which tell you who's snooping in on your web browsing- they have no idea who's peering into their DU session. In the case of the Facebook plugins, alone, everything is tracked- even people without Facebook accounts are tracked.


More discussion about this issue can be found on DU3, here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12401097


From the latest Privacy Policy:

These sites control their own privacy practices and are not bound by this Democratic Underground Privacy Policy. Democratic Underground is not responsible for the information or services provided on third party sites provide, nor is it responsible for the privacy practices or content of their sites.


When you're cruising DU, you're at the mercy of the least private of any of these snooper scripts. I'm sure EarlG knows his stuff but his responses in the thread don't really give me the idea that they've thought much about this functionality- or its impact- before adding it. Again, Facebook tracks you whether you're a Facebook member or not- you just have to have visited a Facebook page once to get the cookie and from then on you're tracked and all off that information is aggregated, monetized and sold. And that may include not just pages on Facebook, specifically, but pages which run the Facebook scripts, like DU3.

Just not looking too attractive to some of us. Kind of strange to pay for the privilege of being datamined- not to mention some of the other concerns people have about their real-life names being tied to their behavior on DU because of things like those Facebook scripts.

EarlG talks about a possible way to turn those buttons off in preferences in the future but, yeah, I have no reason to start feeding that info machine any more until then.

PB
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top

 PatrynXX  (1000+ posts)        Sun Dec-11-11 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. well thats understandable since
 it has a facebook like, which doesn't work. supposedly G+ doesn't either
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 woo me with science  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-12-11 01:36 AM

Response to Reply #3
5. Thank you. nt
  
 Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top

And in a piece of delicious irony adbot takes a victory lap.

  DU AdBot (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec 12th 2011, 06:57 AM

Sounds like disloyal subjects will be much easier to find.  AttackWatch job just got a whole lot easier.

[miskie]

..And here they were thinking that DU Adbot and Grovelbot would be replaced by DU Shufflebot, and random dancing would occur several times per day..

-Too bad, primitives.

[JohnnyReb]

Datamining at the DUmp will peter out shortly....or peter in as the case may be.