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Current Events => Political Ammunition => Topic started by: Rebel on May 29, 2011, 06:30:11 PM
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Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep
in as well.
Here’s how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=12585
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Came across this the other day: Every rape in Oslo, Norway in Past 5 Years Was By Non-Western Foreigner (Video) (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/shock-report-every-rape-in-oslo-norway-in-past-5-years-was-by-non-western-foreigner-video/)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_rHFKRwv5Y&feature=player_embedded#at=115[/youtube]
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(Of course being a big expert on Islamic Terrorism you know all about him)
Uh-oh. Another troll, insulting everyone at this site?
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Uh-oh. Another troll, insulting everyone at this site?
Schools out, schools out, teacher let the trolls out.
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Funny, I seem to remember a guy named "Mohammad Amin al-Husayni", you know the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, urging Muslims to kill Jews before the "1950's". I also remember some guy named "Hassan al-Banna" founding the Muslim Brotherhood, with the explicit purpose of resurrecting the Great Caliphate (and subsequently purging all other cultures and religion from this area) in 1928.
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Tell me, if all these things are somehow inherent to the Muslim religion then why did Muslim ruled Spain get along without them for several hundread years?
Oh, Muslims are fine with other people so long as they convert, accept taxation and subjugation, or are beheaded. ...and the Aztecs were also peaceful. ...right after they killed everyone that didn't go along with their rule.
Islam is a f'n cult. It should be viewed as such and dealt with appropriately.
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Oh, Muslims are fine with other people so long as they convert, accept taxation and subjugation, or are beheaded. ...and the Aztecs were also peaceful. ...right after they killed everyone that didn't go along with their rule.
Islam is a f'n cult. It should be viewed as such and dealt with appropriately.
I view it as a treasonous organization that advocates the violent overthrow of the U.S. government.
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I find it funny that you say that "ethnic cleansing" is going on in Palestine due to Muslims.
Tell me, if all these things are somehow inherent to the Muslim religion then why did Muslim ruled Spain get along without them for several hundread years?
Lol. Which "several hundread years" is that?
Lots of persecutions of (Catholic) Christians went on. If you care to, look up St. Eulogius sometime.
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:trolls:
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AFAIC, the troll can go flush itself down the nearest toilet.
HI5 to the rest of you for stating the truth, obvious as it is to US, there's alot of ignorant liberals out there who persist in the notion that we evil Westerners picked on the poor Muslims.
Au contraire, those assholes spilled out of their homeland to attempt the conversion of the world for their religion. They haven't stopped since, and the only NO they understand is a forceful, military no.
I was going to add links, but youall already know I am right, and the straphangers tut tutting over our "xenophobia, racism, etc., ad nauseum" wouldn't be satisfied if Jesus walked up to them and told them...those that actually even believe in Jesus, of course. ::)
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The only NO they MIGHT understand is their deaths.
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Oh, Muslims are fine with other people so long as they convert, accept taxation and subjugation, or are beheaded. ...and the Aztecs were also peaceful. ...right after they killed everyone that didn't go along with their rule.
You do realize that this can be said about many christians as well right?
Funny, I seem to remember a guy named "Mohammad Amin al-Husayni", you know the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, urging Muslims to kill Jews before the "1950's". I also remember some guy named "Hassan al-Banna" founding the Muslim Brotherhood, with the explicit purpose of resurrecting the Great Caliphate (and subsequently purging all other cultures and religion from this area) in 1928.
al-Hsayni was a palastenian nationalist. I doubt he would of had many problems with Jews if it wasnt for the state of Israel and their shennaningans. And as for Hassan: "Hasan Ahmed Abdel Rahman Muhammed al-Banna (Arabic: Øسن Ø£Øمد عبد الرØمن Ù…Øمد البنا‎,Known as Hasan al-Banna (Arabic: Øسن البنا‎ was born on October 14, 1906 – February 12, 1949) was a schoolteacher and imam, best known for founding the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the largest and most influential 20th century Muslim revivalist organizations.
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REVIVALIST. As in he was mostly trying to ger Muslims to be more Muslim. In fact that was the goal of most Islamic terrorism until 9/11. To oust the evil west corrupted leaders and get the people to realize that they must throw off sinfull notions of "Human rights" and "democracy" if they wish to save their imortal souls!
I view it as a treasonous organization that advocates the violent overthrow of the U.S. government.
You base this off of?
Uh-oh. Another troll, insulting everyone at this site?
Yes everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Especially if they have facts and evidence to back it up.
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You do realize that this can be said about many christians as well right? Please enlighten us: When and where was the last Christian slaying of non-Christians? (And the word is capitalized, you dumb twerp.)
al-Hsayni was a palastenian nationalist. I doubt he would of had many problems with Jews if it wasnt for the state of Israel and their shennaningans. And as for Hassan: "Hasan Ahmed Abdel Rahman Muhammed al-Banna (Arabic: Øسن Ø£Øمد عبد الرØمن Ù…Øمد البنا‎,Known as Hasan al-Banna (Arabic: Øسن البنا‎ was born on October 14, 1906 – February 12, 1949) was a schoolteacher and imam, best known for founding the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the largest and most influential 20th century Muslim revivalist terrorist organizations.
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al-Hsayni was a palastenian nationalist. I doubt he would of had many problems with Jews if it wasnt for the state of Israel and their shennaningans. And as for Hassan: "Hasan Ahmed Abdel Rahman Muhammed al-Banna (Arabic: Øسن Ø£Øمد عبد الرØمن Ù…Øمد البنا‎,Known as Hasan al-Banna (Arabic: Øسن البنا‎ was born on October 14, 1906 – February 12, 1949) was a schoolteacher and imam, best known for founding the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the largest and most influential 20th century Muslim revivalist organizations.
Damn, you are dumb. Nice copy and paste job, BTW. al-Husanyi was collaborting with Waffen SS operatives prior to the establishment of the "state of Israel" in 1948. He wanted to expel the British from the colony of Palestine and then combine Nazi German and Muslim forces to round up and exterminate Jews already living in Jerusalem, Haifa and other surrounding areas.
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Damn, you are dumb. Nice copy and paste job, BTW. al-Husanyi was collaborting with Waffen SS operatives prior to the establishment of the "state of Israel" in 1948. He wanted to expel the British from the colony of Palestine and then combine Nazi German and Muslim forces to round up and exterminate Jews already living in Jerusalem, Haifa and other surrounding areas.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3pq1KIUZb4[/youtube]
There were two Muslim Waffen-SS, they were mostly in Yugoslavia and Croatian. Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini was the one who encouraged it. After World War II, many Nazis fled to the Middle East, mainly Egypt and Syria. Middle East was just as popular as Latin America. Among then were Alois Brunner. Also, many Nazis converted to Islam. Yasser Arafat is related to al-Husseini. Saddam Hussein and Assad Family Baathist Party is modeled after the Nazis.
The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection
http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/arabnazi.html
Amin Al-Husseini Photo Gallery
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/
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Damn, you are dumb. Nice copy and paste job, BTW. al-Husanyi was collaborting with Waffen SS operatives prior to the establishment of the "state of Israel" in 1948. He wanted to expel the British from the colony of Palestine and then combine Nazi German and Muslim forces to round up and exterminate Jews already living in Jerusalem, Haifa and other surrounding areas.
Hence the fact that I put it in quotation marks, BTW.
Also Im going to need a source on this bullshit. But even if its mostly true it doesnt change my point. al-Husanyi was a Palestinian nationalist, think about the implications of that for a moment, like replace "Palestinian" with "White" and tell me if any of his behavior is really that shocking.
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^You expect me to take any source that gives credit to Walid Shoebat seriously?
Plus it stated my own point pretty well, (if the video is true) it claims that the groups Hitler was allied with were fundamentalist groups and Arab NATIONALISTS.
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Hence the fact that I put it in quotation marks, BTW.
Also Im going to need a source on this bullshit. But even if its mostly true it doesnt change my point. al-Husanyi was a Palestinian nationalist, think about the implications of that for a moment, like replace "Palestinian" with "White" and tell me if any of his behavior is really that shocking.
With no source citation. You lifted it, plain and simple.
You've got them in the video Ptarmy posted. All of those historians are my sources.
^You expect me to take any source that gives credit to Walid Shoebat seriously?
Plus it stated my own point pretty well, (if the video is true) it claims that the groups Hitler was allied with were fundamentalist groups and Arab NATIONALISTS.
They aren't mutually exclusive, especially in al-Husayni's case. But, as long as nationalism is the goal, I guess a Semitic genocide is a-okay in your fantasy land...
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You do realize that this can be said about many christians as well right?
Not in the past several centuries, moonbat. Christians grew up. Muzzies are still wallowing in the slop with the rest of the swine.
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Muzzies are still wallowing in the slop with the rest of the swine.
Yes, but bacon tastes good.
Muslims?
Not so much.
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Yes, but bacon tastes good.
Muslims?
Not so much.
Do Muslims taste like chicken? Dogs will love 'em.
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Guy's a troll; he's a waste of oxygen. He's got nothing but bile.
Next.
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But, as long as nationalism is the goal, I guess a Semitic genocide is a-okay in your fantasy land...
Are you autistic? Serious question. Because I dont see how a functioning neurotypical person could be so detached from reality. Im not arguing that these are good people Im arguing that all these bad things you people are talking about are not something inherent to Islam or Islamic people.
Not in the past several centuries, moonbat. Christians grew up. Muzzies are still wallowing in the slop with the rest of the swine.
Yes look at these filthy Mudslimes wallowing in slop.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/95mmo8.jpg)
Piss off.
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With no source citation. You lifted it, plain and simple.
You've got them in the video Ptarmy posted. All of those historians are my sources.
Yeah a video that featured Walid Shoebat as a credibly source.
Walid Shoebat who claims that he detonated a bomb at a bank even though that bank has no record of ever being bombed. Then he found Jesus and now Fundie Christians pay him lots of money to go speak at their events about how Islam is the devil.
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I note that someone here won't even go to the introduction thread.
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I note that someone here won't even go to the introduction thread.
Ok I will if it will make you happy.
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No. It's "Piss be upon you and MOO-hammed."
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Ok I will if it will make you happy.
Make me happy? You really are a turd.
It's a rule of this site that you introduce yourself.
Geez. Read things a little bit..............
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Are you autistic? Serious question. Because I dont see how a functioning neurotypical person could be so detached from reality. Im not arguing that these are good people Im arguing that all these bad things you people are talking about are not something inherent to Islam or Islamic people.
Yes look at these filthy Mudslimes wallowing in slop.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/95mmo8.jpg)
Piss off.
As a newcomer, I'd give some ardent consideration to lowering your tone a bit........
Further, your knowledge of modern Islam appears to be lacking.......Spealing as a person that has spent a number of years living and traveling in the Middle East, and two years of living in a country under Sharia Law.......I don't know the origin of that photo, but in virtually EVRY Islamic country, those women in that photo would (at the very least) be horsewhipped in a public square. In a couple they would be imprisioned or executed.
I will buy that there are "secular" Muslims, in various areas, however, more and more, they appear to be overwhelmed by the rising tide of fundamentalism.
doc
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The rise of Islam concerns me as one who doesn't like religions rising. I think Islam is going through a funny stage. Theres alot of violence, some is religious, some is political. This study the OP has suggests that number of Muslims is proportional to the amount of violence. Those regions are unstable because of outside influence, governmental corruption and colonialism, not because of their faith.
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Are you autistic? Serious question. Because I dont see how a functioning neurotypical person could be so detached from reality. Im not arguing that these are good people Im arguing that all these bad things you people are talking about are not something inherent to Islam or Islamic people.
Go **** yourself, cocksucker or give some more handies out at some gloryhole in Dubai...whatever it is you do.
The fact is Muslims, around the globe (the Moros in the Phillipines, Iberian Wars, the Battle of Tours, etc ,etc.), have been in constant jihad with other cultures before the "1950's". Theirs' is a religion of war. You love these camel turds because you and them share the same vehicle of hate against Israel. Those damn "Jews and their shenanigans" as you put it.
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The rise of Islam concerns me as one who doesn't like religions rising. I think Islam is going through a funny stage. Theres alot of violence, some is religious, some is political. This study the OP has suggests that number of Muslims is proportional to the amount of violence. Those regions are unstable because of outside influence, governmental corruption and colonialism, not because of their faith.
Actually you are close to the key to understanding........Islam is the only major religion that is both a religion and a political ideology. Until the two are separated, Islam remains a risk to western civilization. Those who truly follow orthodox Islam are not compatible with other either religious or political systems.
doc
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The rise of Islam concerns me as one who doesn't like religions rising. I think Islam is going through a funny stage. Theres alot of violence, some is religious, some is political. This study the OP has suggests that number of Muslims is proportional to the amount of violence. Those regions are unstable because of outside influence, governmental corruption and colonialism, not because of their faith.
What's their excuse in the Netherlands?
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/07/gay-girl-in-damascus-blogger-kidnapped-by-syrian-forces/
That's one of thousands of stories like that. **** Islam and **** that pedophile prophet.
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The rise of Islam concerns me as one who doesn't like religions rising. I think Islam is going through a funny stage. Theres alot of violence, some is religious, some is political. This study the OP has suggests that number of Muslims is proportional to the amount of violence. Those regions are unstable because of outside influence, governmental corruption and colonialism, not because of their faith.
Were you dropped on your head in infancy? Bertie your ignorance is profound.
"Those regions" are not unstable due to outside influence. Those regions are unstable because they are chock full of Neanderthals.
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Actually you are close to the key to understanding........Islam is the only major religion that is both a religion and a political ideology. Until the two are separated, Islam remains a risk to western civilization. Those who truly follow orthodox Islam are not compatible with other either religious or political systems.
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I dont quite grok what you mean about it also being a political ideology. There are plenty of people who consider Christianity to be a political ideology. Jerry Falwell for instance. Id also argue that those who follow orthodox Christianity(not the denomination) are incompatable to. What with all the laws about stoning disobedient children.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/07/gay-girl-in-damascus-blogger-kidnapped-by-syrian-forces/
That's one of thousands of stories like that. **** Islam and **** that pedophile prophet.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda-global-uproar/story?id=10045436
Heres a story about an 85% Christian nation making it punishable by death to be a homosexual.
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I dont quite grok what you mean about it also being a political ideology. There are plenty of people who consider Christianity to be a political ideology. Jerry Falwell for instance. Id also argue that those who follow orthodox Christianity(not the denomination) are incompatable to. What with all the laws about stoning disobedient children.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda-global-uproar/story?id=10045436
Heres a story about an 85% Christian nation making it punishable by death to be a homosexual.
I'm not Ugandan, but if that's the only example you have, your argument is rather weak.
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I dont quite grok what you mean about it also being a political ideology. There are plenty of people who consider Christianity to be a political ideology. Jerry Falwell for instance. Id also argue that those who follow orthodox Christianity(not the denomination) are incompatable to. What with all the laws about stoning disobedient children.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda-global-uproar/story?id=10045436
Heres a story about an 85% Christian nation making it punishable by death to be a homosexual.
No problem that AIDS is epidemic in most African countries and spread by a gay lifestyle , which with the poor care there is almost a death sentence anyway. Of course almost every single Islamic ruled country has a death penalty for gays.
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No problem that AIDS is epidemic in most African countries and spread by a gay lifestyle , which with the poor care there is almost a death sentence anyway. Of course almost every single Islamic ruled country has a death penalty for gays.
Oops.
Howzat Muzzie thing workin' for ya now, Jeff?
Do you pack fudge?
Just curious.
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I dont quite grok what you mean about it also being a political ideology. There are plenty of people who consider Christianity to be a political ideology. Jerry Falwell for instance. Id also argue that those who follow orthodox Christianity(not the denomination) are incompatable to. What with all the laws about stoning disobedient children.
Then......as I stated above, you know little about Islam......study and get back to us when you are more prepared. Right now you are just making yourself look silly......
Just to point you in the direction of learning:
Ayatollah = Islamic "Head of State". A combination "King", and "Archbishop". Heads both the countries religion as well as the daily operation of governance.
Sharia = A set of laws that govern either a group of believers (and nonbelievers, where applicable), or an entire nation (there are numerous examples).
The Caliphate = The goal set forth in the Koran for political (and military) conquest and subjugation of non-Islamic lands, countries, and peoples.
Have we gotten beyond Jerry Falwell yet?? Or have I missed his sermon on world domination? I must have also missed where his church was applying to the NRC to construct nuclear warheads, or purchase weapons from the Russions or Chinese? I further must have missed his comments on eradicating another entire nation and its people. When was the last time that Fallwell's followers spent years lobbing homemade rockets at a neighboring church they disagreed with, or sent children and women wrapped in explosive vests laced with shrapnel into a crowded restaurant, or mall?
Don't confuse us with idiots.......and you will discover that the tired old "moral equivalency" canard won't hold much water here.
Do your homework, and debate intelligently......or take a hike....I'm not in the mood for fools today.
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No problem that AIDS is epidemic in most African countries and spread by a gay lifestyle , which with the poor care there is almost a death sentence anyway. Of course almost every single Islamic ruled country has a death penalty for gays.
So your argument is that because AIDS will kill them anyways we might as well kill them now?
Of course almost every single Islamic ruled country has a death penalty for gays.
http://www.sodomylaws.org/ only lists 4.
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Of course almost every single Islamic ruled country has a death penalty for gays.
[/quote]http://www.sodomylaws.org/ only lists 4.[/quote]
Yeah, that may be how many have the anti-sodomy laws on the books, but how many others look the other way when gays are killed.
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The Caliphate = The goal set forth in the Koran for political (and military) conquest and subjugation of non-Islamic lands, countries, and peoples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate
Do you see anything about conquering the world? The Caliphate was a political system that the early Islamic people lived under and it was detailed in the Koran. If you argue that that makes Islam a political ideology youd also have to argue that Judaism(and by extension Christianity) are political ideologies because their system of government and their laws(Shiariah) are detailed in their holy book.
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Sharia = A set of laws that govern either a group of believers (and nonbelievers, where applicable), or an entire nation (there are numerous examples).
Have you read the book of Leviticus? Once again, doesnt make it a political ideology.
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Have we gotten beyond Jerry Falwell yet?? Or have I missed his sermon on world domination? I must have also missed where his church was applying to the NRC to construct nuclear warheads, or purchase weapons from the Russions or Chinese? I further must have missed his comments on eradicating another entire nation and its people. When was the last time that Fallwell's followers spent years lobbing homemade rockets at a neighboring church they disagreed with, or sent children and women wrapped in explosive vests laced with shrapnel into a crowded restaurant, or mall?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeE49cWbAKY
^Oh my...
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Yes look at these filthy Mudslimes wallowing in slop.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/95mmo8.jpg)
Piss off.
This is a pic from the 70's. Probably Iranian women during the Shah's reign. Better times for them. Freedom to express themselves.
Look at em now!
(http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/Iranian_woman.jpg)
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a0_1185106657 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a0_1185106657)
Wonderful religion/ideology you defend, Jeff! I hope you're proud of yourself.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a0_1185106657 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a0_1185106657)
Wonderful religion/ideology you defend, Jeff! I hope you're proud of yourself.
That is the end result of 0bama's world ...
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This is a pic from the 70's. Probably Iranian women during the Shah's reign. Better times for them. Freedom to express themselves.
Look at em now!
(http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/Iranian_woman.jpg)
Yeah. The people havent changed though. Pre-Revolution Iran was just as Islamic as current day Iran.
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Yeah. The people havent changed though. Pre-Revolution Iran was just as Islamic as current day Iran.
And yet you support them and their ideologies.
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And yet you support them and their ideologies.
And yet you continue to miss my point.
If Islam and Arabs are so inherently evil then how did the Shah regime even happen?
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And yet you continue to miss my point.
If Islam and Arabs are so inherently evil then how did the Shah regime even happen?
What, the last one? Pretty sure that was the CIA.
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And yet you continue to miss my point.
If Islam and Arabs are so inherently evil then how did the Shah regime even happen?
Are you pro-islam? yes or no.
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PROPHET OF DOOM
Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories. Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. He was a terrorist. And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence.
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter.aspx?g=401&i=41003
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Are you pro-islam? yes or no.
I love how you cant conceive of an issue more complicated than pro/anti-something. What does being pro-Islam even mean?
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What, the last one? Pretty sure that was the CIA.
True. Doesnt change my point.
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I love how you cant conceive of an issue more complicated than pro/anti-something. What does being pro-Islam even mean?
Are you FOR or AGAINST fun on a Saturday night?
I don't see how this is complicated.
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Are you FOR or AGAINST fun on a Saturday night?
I don't see how this is complicated.
What does being pro-Islam imply? Do I agree with stoning women for showing their ankles? No. Do I think that all Muslims are bomb throwing white women raping nation destroyers? No. Do I think that Islam is within itself a bad thing? Not much more than most other religions.
Its not complicated so much its just that the question was vague.
And I am very much against fun on a Saturday night.
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab310/arrancar47/NoFunAllowed.jpg)
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What does being pro-Islam imply?
Boring-ass Saturday nights with no bourbon, cheap women, rock n roll, and/or pervert bars.
In other words, Islam is against everything that makes America great.
Was James Brown a Muslim? Hell, no! He was too busy showing us how to party. Johnny Cash? Elvis?
I'll give you Mohammad Ali, but only because he could talk smack.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeE49cWbAKY
^Oh my...
Oh my indeed....what exactly does Michael Bray have to do with Jerry Falwell (your stated example).....hmmmmmm??
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Have you read the book of Leviticus? Once again, doesnt make it a political ideology.
Christians don't live by the old law stated in Leviticus.....the "New Covenant" changed all that......but you obviously know as little of Christianity as you do of Islam. At least seven countries right now live under Sharia, and there will likely be more (Egypt for example). Name one outside of Israel that lives under Talmudic Law (and Israel really doesn't either).
You are deflecting and making yourself look like a child again.......not debating.
doc
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Oh my indeed....what exactly does Michael Bray have to do with Jerry Falwell (your stated example).....hmmmmmm??
Nitpicking. Jerry Falwell was one example to serve my point Michael Bray is a another example. Two pieces of evidence dont have to relate to each other in any way except proving the same point.
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Christians don't live by the old law stated in Leviticus.....the "New Covenant" changed all that......but you obviously know as little of Christianity as you do of Islam. At least seven countries right now live under Sharia, and there will likely be more (Egypt for example). Name one outside of Israel that lives under Talmudic Law (and Israel really doesn't either).
I dont deny this. But why do you think this is so? Why do you think so many Islamic nations live this way? You cant say because of their religion because other religions have similar stipulations yet their followers dont go all the way through with them. So what is wrong with these Arab nations?
(Are you beginning to see what I meant when I said it was a more complicated than Islam = Evulz?)
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Do I think that Islam is within itself a bad thing? Not much more than most other religions.
That kind of naivety is reserved for 16 year old teenagers. If you're older than 16 years old, and still hold that opinion, you should probably go ahead and off yourself right now because life is going to be rough.
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Nitpicking. <drivel snipped>
As I warned you before.....accuracy is essential in legitimate debates.......your points are not accurate. You are just throwing up strawmen and utilizing nonsense as an argument.
Do your homework, discuss specifics to back your position......or pick a thread on a subject elsewhere on the board about which you have some actual knowledge......it's obvoius that this topic isn't your strongest suit.
I've given you facts about Islam, as well as first-hand experiences.......you have given us nothing but gibberish.
Based on responses to this and other threads in which you've posted, I'm getting the impression that the membership is growing weary of your lack of credibility........make an argument, back it up with facts, or I'm going to take action on your posting privledges. You're beginning to smell like a troll.....
doc
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As I warned you before.....accuracy is essential in legitimate debates.......your points are not accurate. You are just throwing up strawmen and utilizing nonsense as an argument.
Do your homework, discuss specifics to back your position......or pick a thread on a subject elsewhere on the board about which you have some actual knowledge......it's obvoius that this topic isn't your strongest suit.
I've given you facts about Islam, as well as first-hand experiences.......you have given us nothing but gibberish.
Based on responses to this and other threads in which you've posted, I'm getting the impression that the membership is growing weary of your lack of credibility........make an argument, back it up with facts, or I'm going to take action on your posting privledges. You're beginning to smell like a troll.....
doc
Thank you, doc. And speaking of cockroaches, we may have one or two of the vermin hereabouts.
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A test...
1. 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
3. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
4. During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
5. In 1983 the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
10. In 1998 the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill’s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked. Two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Center.
Of the remaining two, one crashed into the U.S. Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
link (http://jdlcanada.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/european-life-died-in-auschwitz-sebastian-vilar-rodrigez/)
Those middle-aged Methodist ladies are hell. Hell I tel you!
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A test...
link (http://jdlcanada.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/european-life-died-in-auschwitz-sebastian-vilar-rodrigez/)
Those middle-aged Methodist ladies are hell. Hell I tel you!
Great points Splashdown.....but it is an exercise in futility. To a liberal/progressive/socialist/communist in America some religious whackjob that bombs an abortion clinic, or shoots an abortionist is always the "moral equivalent" of hundreds of thousands of lives lost at the hands of Muslims.........it's all the same to them........religion is BAD.......
God forbid the Israelis have the colossal audacity to defend their homeland (granted to them by the UN) by three wars and constant terrorist attacks.......just because Israel is a "religious state", they have to be the BAD guys.......and the "palestinian" scum are to be elevated to the status of heros in their eyes.
There is no rationale to it, it simply is a baseless, infantile, illogical, emotional ideology that rots civilization from the inside, and eventually must be cauterized. History has taught us that unless it is cauterized at the ballot box......bloodshed will be the eventual result, sadly.
Islam is not America's most immediate threat.......liberalism is........
doc
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As I warned you before.....accuracy is essential in legitimate debates.......your points are not accurate. You are just throwing up strawmen and utilizing nonsense as an argument.
Do your homework, discuss specifics to back your position......or pick a thread on a subject elsewhere on the board about which you have some actual knowledge......it's obvoius that this topic isn't your strongest suit.
I've given you facts about Islam, as well as first-hand experiences.......you have given us nothing but gibberish.
Based on responses to this and other threads in which you've posted, I'm getting the impression that the membership is growing weary of your lack of credibility........make an argument, back it up with facts, or I'm going to take action on your posting privledges. You're beginning to smell like a troll.....
How exactly have I been making bad arguments?
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How exactly have I been making bad arguments?
Are you really that obtuse? Or do you have a reading disability? I've explained it to you at least twice (the most recent in the comments that you quoted above)......drawing equivalency between a wacko acting in isolation under the guise of Christianity does not excuse the mass murder perpetrated by extremest Islam........
It simply is NOT a valid argument........do it again, and you are out of here.......discuss facts, or disappear. This is your last warning.
doc
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Islam is not America's most immediate threat.......liberalism is........
doc
Amen.
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Are you really that obtuse? Or do you have a reading disability? I've explained it to you at least twice (the most recent in the comments that you quoted above)......drawing equivalency between a wacko acting in isolation under the guise of Christianity does not excuse the mass murder perpetrated by extremest Islam........
It simply is NOT a valid argument........do it again, and you are out of here.......discuss facts, or disappear. This is your last warning.
doc
Im sorry.
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Im sorry.
That was about as sincere as a broccoli fart in a hurricane.
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That was about as sincere as a broccoli fart in a hurricane.
lol....
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When Muslims are bowling and playing soccer with DUmmie heads, they still won't believe that Islam is pure evil.
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Actually you are close to the key to understanding........Islam is the only major religion that is both a religion and a political ideology. Until the two are separated, Islam remains a risk to western civilization. Those who truly follow orthodox Islam are not compatible with other either religious or political systems.
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Tell that to the Vatican and Israel. lol
Is there a way for the two to be separated?
Were you dropped on your head in infancy? Bertie your ignorance is profound.
"Those regions" are not unstable due to outside influence. Those regions are unstable because they are chock full of Neanderthals.
So your wrong and prodigious?
Fantastic.
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Tell that to the Vatican and Israel. lol
Is there a way for the two to be separated?
Well....lol....technically you are correct that the Vatican is a state, that is governed by the church (of which all its residents are members....unlike any other "State" on earth).......an anomaly left over from the fourth century.
You are incorrect regarding Israel. Though Israel is a "Jewish State", they are governed by a democratically elected Parliament (the Knesset) which is secular, and even has Muslim members, as well as Christian, with an organized set of laws that doesn't always follow Talmudic law. Certainly the Jews are the majority in Israel (and they intend to keep it that way), freedom of religion is very much a part of Israeli culture and life.....unlike Islamic countries..... There are churches of virtually every major religion in Jerusalem.......how many Christian churches and Synagogues are located in Saudi, Syria, Yemen, Iran, Afganistan, Pakistan, Kuwait, or the UAE........answer, essentually ZERO.
Islam is the ONLY great religion that combines both religion and mandates a political doctrine when its adherents reach majority status wherever they can. (bolded phrase is the key)
Just like Jeff, you need to do your homework before you come out to play with the adults.....lol
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Well....lol....technically you are correct that the Vatican is a state, that is governed by the church (of which all its residents are members....unlike any other "State" on earth).......an anomaly left over from the fourth century.
You are incorrect regarding Israel. Though Israel is a "Jewish State", they are governed by a democratically elected Parliament (the Knesset) which is secular, and even has Muslim members, as well as Christian, with an organized set of laws that doesn't always follow Talmudic law. Certainly the Jews are the majority in Israel (and they intend to keep it that way), freedom of religion is very much a part of Israeli culture and life.....unlike Islamic countries..... There are churches of virtually every major religion in Jerusalem.......how many Christian churches and Synagogues are located in Saudi, Syria, Yemen, Iran, Afganistan, Pakistan, Kuwait, or the UAE........answer, essentually ZERO.
Islam is the ONLY great religion that combines both religion and mandates a political doctrine when its adherents reach majority status wherever they can. (bolded phrase is the key)
Just like Jeff, you need to do your homework before you come out to play with the adults.....lol
doc
The Israel comment was a joke, that's why I put the lol. Sorry for making you go into an in depth exclamation about it. Thanks anyways however.
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That kind of naivety is reserved for 16 year old teenagers. If you're older than 16 years old, and still hold that opinion, you should probably go ahead and off yourself right now because life is going to be rough.
I said within itself. Im not saying its not worse today than christianity or judaism but those too religions taken to their logical extreme like Islam often is today would be pretty damn bad too.
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I said within itself. Im not saying its not worse today than christianity or judaism but those too religions taken to their logical extreme like Islam often is today would be pretty damn bad too.
How long did your Momma have to hold her breath while pregnant with you to give you so much brain damage?
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Arab Islamic Apartheid's Racism - propagating "apartheid" slur upon multi-racial democratic Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2723272/posts
If you thought Islamic terrorism was bad, this is a MUCH BIGGER AND DEEPER problem, racism. Racism is a huge problem in the Muslim world.
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Arab Islamic Apartheid's Racism - propagating "apartheid" slur upon multi-racial democratic Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2723272/posts
If you thought Islamic terrorism was bad, this is a MUCH BIGGER AND DEEPER problem, racism. Racism is a huge problem in the Muslim world.
Its also a pretty big problem in Israel.
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/03/30/israel-new-laws-marginalize-palestinian-arab-citizens
Just saying.
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Its also a pretty big problem in Israel.
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/03/30/israel-new-laws-marginalize-palestinian-arab-citizens
Just saying.
You do realize that Human Rights Watch is one of the most anti-Israeli/Jewish organizations on the planet, don't you? How much credibility do you think you're mustering when you post sources like that? :loser:
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You do realize that Human Rights Watch is one of the most anti-Israeli/Jewish organizations on the planet, don't you? How much credibility do you think you're mustering when you post sources like that? :loser:
HRW is also pretty anti-American.
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HRW is also pretty anti-American.
Please don't get me started about the U.N.'s "Human Rights Council" (the one that Obama fell in love with) and HRW and how they're joined at the hips.....
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Please don't get me started about the U.N.'s "Human Rights Council" (the one that Obama fell in love with) and HRW and how they're joined at the hips.....
:fuelfire: :lmao:
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Its also a pretty big problem in Israel.
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/03/30/israel-new-laws-marginalize-palestinian-arab-citizens
Just saying.
Stupid is strong in you.
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You do realize that Human Rights Watch is one of the most anti-Israeli/Jewish organizations on the planet, don't you? How much credibility do you think you're mustering when you post sources like that? :loser:
When have they ever posted anything anti-jewish?
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When have they ever posted anything anti-jewish?
FIFY
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When have they ever posted anything anti-jewish?
Do your own homework, grasshopper.
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Do your own homework, grasshopper.
Burden of proof grasshopper. You say something youd best back it up.
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Burden of proof grasshopper. You say something youd best back it up.
:rotf:
And you continue to be a :loser:
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Burden of proof grasshopper. You say something youd best back it up.
...like you've been doing so well? :whatever:
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Tell that to the Vatican and Israel. lol
Question, would you rather live in Israel/Vatican City? Or Riyadh/Tehran?
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvqRHBChRY[/youtube]
The son of the leader of Hamas.
Shhh, apparently he doesn't care too much for the cult either.
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Question, would you rather live in Israel/Vatican City? Or Riyadh/Tehran?
Oh, he'd much rather live in a bastion of freedom of religion and speech and right to life like Riyadh or Tehran. :rofl:
Bet he's packing his bags now to head over there...love how these liberals love to bash Western culture and religion (yes, I know Israel isn't in Europe, lurking fools) FROM THE SAFETY OF WESTERN COUNTRIES. Yet they can't even be persuaded to step one foot on the soil of the paradisiacal nations they praise so lavishly. :mental:
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Oh, he'd much rather live in a bastion of freedom of religion and speech and right to life like Riyadh or Tehran. :rofl:
What gets me, also, is the criticism of Jewish influence on countries by people who apologize for Muslims' influence. It's no contest -- I'd rather live in a society that went to Moses for guidance than one that went to Mohammed for guidance -- no contest at all.