Dummies discuss revolting, or being revolting

[Vagabond]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002867207

One of the DUmmies favorite past times is discussing the revolution.  Not the American Revolution, their revolution...the ones where the American Bolsheviks overthrow the bourgousie and install their glorious communism.

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 05:45 AM
cbrer (691 posts)

 What will be the match to ignite the revolution?
And will YOU answer the call?

The Declaration of Independence states it's YOUR DUTY.

How many threads here point to the outrageous usurpation of freedom in the United States?

At some point, these continued actions will crest, and tip over. How many here will leave the comfort of Western lifestyle. And join the cold dangerous path of revolution?

It's only our future if we demand it. Votes, candidates, laws, all tilt towards the Plutocracy. We see the evidence here EVERY DAY.

I love America.

You should be astoundingly happy.  The government gives you damn near everything you could ask for, but you aren't happy.  Maybe it's because those free things come with shackles and chains.  You lap up it up everytime some politician says, "It's for the.....environment, air, water, the children, those poor polar bears, or whatever."  You never see that every time they make these laws so that they benefit the very rich you claim to hate.  You say you want a revolution.

hobbit709 (22,565 posts)
4. Don't know but sooner or later the trigger will happen.

Historically when it happens it won't be pretty, ask the Bourbons or the Romanovs-if you can find one.

And you will sit it out in your basement.  Expecting to come up when all the blood is spilled and take your "rightful" place at the head table.  No?

Scootaloo (1,281 posts)
8. You want to know? I'll tell you

"The revolution" will come when greasy salty foods are no longer on the menu and the toilet doesn't flush. Only an existential challenge to the gulp-and-shit lifestyle of America will make people perk up from their state of passive domestication... And even then it will only be an effort to return to that lifestyle.

If nothing's happened by now, nothing's going to happen. Sad, but true. Oh, there's plenty that COULD be done, but we're all good little doggies, and we wouldn't dare challenge our owners. That might require effort, and it's so much easier to just not bother.

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin were all loyal British citizens.  Each of them was living a comfortable lifestyle.  They revolted when the king made war on them and their fellow citizens.  The fact is you turds would cheer if the feds decided to invade Texas to try and enforce EPA standards or some other nonsense.

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 07:56 AM
cbrer (691 posts)
14. You're both right and wrong

There is a dangerous lifestyle among many (majority?) of Americans that will preclude getting their asses unstapled from the couch cushions.

But believe me. There are many Americans who will answer the call.

Patriotism may be a subject of derision in some circles. But it is real, and for all its shortcomings, may provide a glue with which we can build a weapon to defeat the Plutocracy with.

We'll need to get the military and police on our side. Perhaps enough of our fathers, and brothers can be swayed by familial ties...

My fave author (RA Heinlein) wrote an eye opening book about a revolution in the future. "The Moon is a harsh Mistress". Some ingredients for the recipe. But more importantly (IMHO) was the mindset.

Your deluded.  Patriotism is derided in your circle and you think you will somehow cynically use it to your ends?  The military is mostly drawn from conservative states, and even more drawn from conservative family lines.  They aren't going to help you.  The moon may be a harsh mistress but you overlook the fact that it was libertarians that ran that little revolution.

Response to cbrer (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 07:56 AM
 TahitiNut (70,688 posts)
15. My torch and pitchfork have been gathering dust since December 2000 ...

... when I thought the reasons for "going Bolshevik" on their asses were as profound and extreme as they've ever been.

Sadly, I've seen not even the smallest group "taking to the barricades." At my age and physical condition, I can only expect to be useful as a "bullet-stopper" but I'm more than willing to serve in that role when and if my fellow citizens ever choose to REALLY take back their government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" from the corrupt and obscene plutocrats on the right who're instituting a new era of fascism in the U.S. and the world.

The fascists are the ones telling you that they "want to take care of you."  Well, they'll take care of you, alright.  When they're done using you, you'll catch that bullet.  It'll  be right to the back of your head and you'll be sobbing that you're on their side.

Response to TahitiNut (Reply #15)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:00 AM
cbrer (691 posts)
19. +1

I'll be there brother. You and I will never meet. But I'll see some to their graves.

See above.

Response to cbrer (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:00 AM
 Bohunk68 (227 posts)
18. Being a history buff

has taught me one thing. Revolutions are carried out by a small number of persons. They may seem massive, but the truth is that only a small percentage of people actually do it. The overwhelmingly vast majority do nothing. True for the American, French and Russian Revolutions. And, numerous others. While there may have been massive crowds in Tahrir (sp) Square, when you compare those numbers with the total population of Egypt, it is not massive. So, the lesson is, it only take a small cadre to do it, you simply have to keep the great majority immobilized and watching from the sidelines.

Don't quit your day job.  History isn't your thing.  All of those revolutions had help supplied cynically from the outside the country or territory in question.  The only one that wasn't a Jacobin revolution was the American revolution.

Response to cbrer (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:20 AM
Puzzledtraveller (527 posts)
22. And how would we fight the collective military might of the Federal government?

We won't.

Yes, so stay on your couch where the rest of us are safe.

Response to cbrer (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:23 AM
 dkf (28,256 posts)
23. When there is no food

That is what it took in Egypt.

In terms of politics, people don't care.

And why was there no food?  Because President Obama and SoS Clinton made a decision not to send any aid shipments to Egypt or Tunisia.  That's all it would have took to keep governments favorable to us in power.  What would have cost millions in prevention will now cost billions or more in the cure.

  Response to cbrer (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:27 AM
historian (2,336 posts)
26. discomfort

Once Americans are deprived of their "rights" to ever more outlandish cars, 700 feet tv sets and gadgets galore; that is when the revolution will begin. Unfortunately anyone familiar with history will note that major revolutions such as France, Russia and even here, began with the intellectuals and intelligentsia. Unfortunately we lack those today; instead we have Limbaugh and Beck. We have as leaders imbeciles of the greatest magnitude throughout history (Reagan, Bush and practically the entire congress) so inspiration will not come from there.
No, sadly it has to come from the feeling that people are being deprived of cheap credit, inability to buy new cars and gadgets. Once they feel that, then the time will be ripe. However, there is one distinct point which, unless I am sadly mistaken, was the lack of scapegoats. It was the people versus the status quo while here it is Americans against other Americans. Attach a label to someone, and distract the great unwashed from reality and voila. Americans do not so much resent Congress, the usurpation of civil liberties, the crimes and infamies of the authorities as they do the perception that life is not as rosy as they are led to believe from the moment of birth. I.E we are Americans, therefore we deserve.
A distinct lack of education, and i do not merely mean the ability to read and write with a certain amount of accuracy, as it is to comprehend the subject matter being presented. The average American, and i include college graduates in this, lack a basic knowledge of the world around them. Afghanistan? Oh those Arabs again only afghans are not Arabs. Damn Asians come here and steal our jobs or have a business in a matter of days. Never mind the fact that these people have studied hard all their life and dedicated themselves to family and prosperity. The lie of course was the idea that all one had to do was come to these shores, apply to the government for help, be given free of charge, thousands of dollars and there you have it. Another foreign business taken from Americans. The fact that these businesses, regardless of the owners, furnish jobs!!
No, sadly enough, Americans are not emotionally ready for a revolution based on fact or understanding; they are only ready to use violence in order to maintain a way of life which cannot be sustained.

This is a good example of communist thought.  It touches on a point but is incapable of actually grasping it.

More stuff over there.

[Big Dog]

Response to TahitiNut (Reply #15)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:00 AM
cbrer (691 posts)
19. +1

I'll be there brother. You and I will never meet. But I'll see some to their graves.

Bring it, mother****er.

[BlueStateSaint]

Bring it, mother****er.

Ditto.

[mamacags]

Tritto

[J. M. Pyne]

I'll be there with you.

[dane]

Response to TahitiNut (Reply #15)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:00 AM
cbrer (691 posts)
19. +1

I'll be there brother. You and I will never meet. But I'll see some to their graves.

Brave talk, boldly spoken (typed) from the comfort of the basement.

Bless their little bouncy-fabricating hearts!

[J. M. Pyne]

Stopped to think a moment - unusual  for me.  The Dummies always assume the revolution will come from the poor and downtrodden - supposedly their constituency.  The revolt might come from the people who pay for all the benefits loaded on them by the Demo.Prog legislators.  The conservatives are by nature slow to revolt.  The older folks around here may remember signing loyalty oaths as part of college registration. It isn't in our nature.  Still, the working people - those who pay taxes = can decide they have had enough.

[Gina]

Bring it, mother****er.

NO SHIT. I'll rip your nuts from your liberal ass with my bare hands. 

[ChuckJ]

NO SHIT. I'll rip your nuts from your liberal ass with my bare hands. 

Careful Gina. Knowing them they would probably enjoy that.

[JohnnyReb]

Revolting DUmmies try to create a slogan for their revolution by paraphasing Charlton Heston..."They can have my weapon if they can pry it from my sticky, CHEETO, stained hands."

[docstew]

The Declaration of Independence states it's YOUR DUTY.

Actually, my reading of:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it

states that the People have the right to change their gov't. How long until the majority who hate Obamacare decide they want to throw off the shackles you insist on putting on them? How long til a new constitutional convention, where we restrict the vote to only those who pay into the system and outlaw any financial payment from the gov't without accompanying work?

[movie buff]

Another staple of the DUmp: Internet tough guys talking about how they're going to start their own Revolution here in the US (Though if their demented goals ever came even close to fruition, it wouldn't look like the American Revolution, it would look like the French Revolution: An uncontrolled explosion of lawlessness and savagery leading to complete anarchy, from which a true tyrant would eventually seize control), yet conspicuously not inspiring any sort of fear from any conservative American in their right mind.
The thread contains a couple other features that are typical for these innumerable "Revolution" threads:
1. Expressing open hatred for Americans in general, typical liberal elitism. ""The revolution" will come when greasy salty foods are no longer on the menu and the toilet doesn't flush. Only an existential challenge to the gulp-and-shit lifestyle of America will make people perk up from their state of passive domestication... And even then it will only be an effort to return to that lifestyle.", "Once Americans are deprived of their "rights" to ever more outlandish cars, 700 feet tv sets and gadgets galore; that is when the revolution will begin." "A distinct lack of education, and i do not merely mean the ability to read and write with a certain amount of accuracy, as it is to comprehend the subject matter being presented." News flash: Openly insulting the American people as a whole is not exactly a good way to get them on your side. btw, for the DUmmy complaining about how supposedly uneducated Americans are, try blaming the liberal- run school system that ignores teaching the three R's in favor of teaching the three S's (Sex ed, self- esteem, and "Social justice"), bans classic works of literature (i.e. 'To Kill a Mockingbird,' 'The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn') from school libraries on the grounds that someone might find them offensive, and limits its teachings on history (Especially American history) to an incredibly distorted and skewed version of history that can be used to encourage liberal views and identity politics. Try blaming the public school teachers' unions that care a great deal more about increasingly fatter paychecks with no accountability for their members and protecting the child- molestors within their ranks from any kind of punishment than they do about making sure kids get a good education. You liberals created the monster that is the current American education system, now you complain about its failures.
2. Not- so- subtly promoting violence against those who would disagree with/ oppose your supposedly glorious revolution. "I'll be there brother. You and I will never meet. But I'll see some to their graves." As others here have said, bring it.

Oh, and here are a few particularly amusing tidbits from the DUmmies:
" Unfortunately anyone familiar with history will note that major revolutions such as France, Russia and even here, began with the intellectuals and intelligentsia."
The "Intellectuals and intelligentsia" who supported the French Revolution all either fled when they realized it had gotten out of hand (i.e. Thomas Paine), or were themselves sent to the guillotine by the very same rabid mobs that they had stirred up but soon lost the ability to control (i.e. Robespierre).
"Unfortunately we lack those today; instead we have Limbaugh and Beck."
I notice that you conveniently refrain from mentioning far- left media pundits that are nothing more than liberal versions of Limbaugh and Beck.
"We'll need to get the military and police on our side."
LOL! You mean the same military that you DUmmies and liberals in general shower with such terms of endearment as "Mercenaries," "Thugs," "Nazis," "Fascists," "War criminals," and "Baby killers"? You mean the same police that you DUmmies and liberals in general regularly refer to as "Pigs," incite hatred against with your Internet posts, and deliberately pick fights with at your repulsive protests? Oh yeah, you should have no problem getting them on your side! Freaking imbecile.
"Perhaps enough of our fathers, and brothers can be swayed by familial ties..."
That one's almost as amusing. The DUmp is filled with threads (Especially around Christmas and Thanksgiving, and immediately following any election that you lose) in which the DUmmies talk about how they've completely severed ties with any conservative (Or even just insufficiently- liberal) relatives they have, or at least become extremely estranged from them. "Familial ties" mean nothing to the DUmmies compared to their rabid obsessions with far- left politics.

[diesel driver]

cbrer (691 posts)

...
My fave author (RA Heinlein) wrote an eye opening book about a revolution in the future. "The Moon is a harsh Mistress". Some ingredients for the recipe. But more importantly (IMHO) was the mindset.

IF you had actually read the book, you will remember this little "recipe":  TANSTAAFL.
There
Ain't
No
Such
Thing
As
A
Free
Lunch

Sounds familiar? 

Bottom line, YOUR "free lunch" is almost over, and your "rights" end when I have to pick up the tab for them.

[Revolution]

And join the cold dangerous path of revolution?

Always amusing that they talk the good talk. They gnash their teeth, stomp their feet, and spit just for good measure. But if something were to actually happen, their nuts would shrivel up as if they dipped them in a river full of glacier water in Alaska. (believe me, I know)

You know it, DUmmies, and believe me when I say, we damn sure know it.

DU in a nutshell:

[Bad Dog]

They always fantasize about getting the police & military on their side which is, exactly that, a fantasy.  In my part of the country, the police & military wouldn't even have to get involved in putting down their "revolution".