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Title: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on April 17, 2013, 01:36:19 PM
which I hope I won't be throwing (too much) money into.

As some of you may remember my wife's uncle, Monty, has prostrate cancer which has gotten into his bones. He's holding up fairly well, but needs to move closer to a main city for his treatments. So he's off-loading just about everything for the move.

This boat was his grandfathers. He's given it to me, as he knows I love to fish. It's going to be an honor to restore it to it's former glory. I'd like to document it here, and at times, link him the pictures as I progress.

It's a 1968 Sears (MFG made it) 14 foot runabout. It came with 35 and 15 hp outboards. Nice boat. I like it, plus the "girls" like it better than my "nasty" alum fishing boat. Whatever.   :p


Overall view of the boat. Iv'e started cleaning up the oxidized finish.


(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/Apogeespeaker/IMG_0029-1_zps0eabcd71.jpg) (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/Apogeespeaker/media/IMG_0029-1_zps0eabcd71.jpg.html)


The "pillars" where I trashed my eyes. I've got the stern ones done, and made new ones near the bow:

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/Apogeespeaker/IMG_0028_zpsfb7145d6.jpg) (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/Apogeespeaker/media/IMG_0028_zpsfb7145d6.jpg.html)


(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/Apogeespeaker/IMG_0030-1_zps6c2e20c2.jpg) (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/Apogeespeaker/media/IMG_0030-1_zps6c2e20c2.jpg.html)

Shot showing the 35 hp Johnson Super Seahorse. Seems to be in good condition, but until I can fire it up.....


(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/Apogeespeaker/IMG_0027_zps7576ff5a.jpg) (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/Apogeespeaker/media/IMG_0027_zps7576ff5a.jpg.html)


This will, hopefully, be a fun project, and we already have plans on where we'd like to take the boat.

 :cheersmate:




Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 06, 2013, 05:48:08 PM
Got the Sea Horse running, it's not too bad, however there's no water in the exhaust, it's impeller time..... :bs:
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: rich_t on June 06, 2013, 05:54:46 PM
Nice boat.  I look forward to seeing pics as the restoration continues.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 07, 2013, 03:45:02 PM
Interesting notes: Both outboards a a bit older than the owner realized. He thought the 35 and 15 were 68's. The 35 is a 1959 and the 15 Sea King, I think it was a "kicker", is 1962. iboats is my friend.   :p
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Eupher on June 08, 2013, 12:02:04 PM
What kinda shape is the trailer/tires in? Usually, after having been stored for awhile, not good....
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: CG6468 on June 08, 2013, 01:19:21 PM
What kinda shape is the trailer/tires in? Usually, after having been stored for awhile, not good....

And the wheel bearings.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 10, 2013, 12:18:42 PM
The trailer is in good shape (tires too) and has bearing buddies on the axles, so no problems there.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: obumazombie on June 10, 2013, 12:30:39 PM
That boat looks more like a ski boat than a fishing boat. And as everyone knows, it's sacrilege to fish from a ski boat. If you use it for it's primary intended purpose and need a ski partner, I shall be ready to answer the call of duty !
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 10, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
That boat looks more like a ski boat than a fishing boat. And as everyone knows, it's sacrilege to fish from a ski boat. If you use it for it's primary intended purpose and need a ski partner, I shall be ready to answer the call of duty !



 :rofl:


It's a "runabout" so good for fishing and skiing.    :tongue:
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Skul on June 23, 2013, 12:23:26 PM


 :rofl:


It's a "runabout" so good for fishing and skiing.    :tongue:
If you don't get that impeller replaced, it's gonna be a "floatabout".  :-)
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: here on June 23, 2013, 03:02:43 PM
The two happiest days in a man’s life are when he buys a boat, and when he sells it. I see you are having one of them  :)
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 24, 2013, 09:57:30 AM
If you don't get that impeller replaced, it's gonna be a "floatabout".  :-)



Got it replaced Saturday. The old one was OK so I didn't have enough water in the barrel I used. From what I understand these old outboards won't self prime easily. Meh.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 24, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
Words of wisdom I heard an old man tell his son many years ago...."Son, you can keep up two whores cheaper than you can keep up that boat."
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: here on June 24, 2013, 11:00:58 AM
Words of wisdom I heard an old man tell his son many years ago...."Son, you can keep up two whores cheaper than you can keep up that boat."

 :rofl:
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 24, 2013, 12:45:17 PM
Words of wisdom I heard an old man tell his son many years ago...."Son, you can keep up two whores cheaper than you can keep up that boat."


My father learned that with a Sailboat.     :rant:
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: CG6468 on June 24, 2013, 02:23:54 PM
Words of wisdom I heard an old man tell his son many years ago...."Son, you can keep up two whores cheaper than you can keep up that boat."

Just the parts (for many inboards the same as a Chevy engine) are extremely costly, and if you have it done, the labor for a job just like on a car is about 5 times more expensive.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 24, 2013, 04:38:41 PM
Just the parts (for many inboards the same as a Chevy engine) are extremely costly, and if you have it done, the labor for a job just like on a car is about 5 times more expensive.



Actually not too bad and I do all the work myself. I have an "in" so-to-speak. I know a guy that has an old marine shop. He "retired" years ago, but still owns the building. Right now he's restoring a 1962 Ferrari 250 GT and is selling outboard parts for what they cost him several years ago to fund the resto. I just bought a clutch dog, impeller, and other misc parts for $70. The clutch dog alone goes for $75 in today's market.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: zeitgeist on June 24, 2013, 04:52:11 PM
In keep seeing someone trying to sell a 1937 14' Old Town runabout with mahogany deck, cedar on oak structurally sound just needing refinishing and including a 15 hp motor that needs carb work (I have one too many projects).  Only $2k......   :fuelfire:

See it here:

http://www.nhbm.org/?page_id=1084&id=42
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: zeitgeist on June 24, 2013, 04:57:11 PM


Actually not too bad and I do all the work myself. I have an "in" so-to-speak. I know a guy that has an old marine shop. He "retired" years ago, but still owns the building. Right now he's restoring a 1962 Ferrari 250 GT and is selling outboard parts for what they cost him several years ago to fund the resto. I just bought a clutch dog, impeller, and other misc parts for $70. The clutch dog alone goes for $75 in today's market.

Did someone say Ferrari?

Quote

Male Logic:
 
Woman:
Do you drink beer?
 
Man: Yes
 
Woman:
How many beers a day?
 
Man:
Usually about 3
 
Woman:
How much do you pay per beer?
 
Man: $5.00 which includes a tip
 
(This is where it gets scary !)
 
Woman:
And how long have you been drinking?
 
Man:
About 20 years, I suppose
 
Woman:
So a beer costs $5 and you have 3 beers a day which puts your spending each month at $450. In one year, it would be approximately $5400 …correct?
 
Man:
Correct
 
Woman:
If in 1 year you spend $5400, not accounting for inflation, the past
20 years puts your spending at $108,000, correct?
 
Man:
Correct
 
Woman:
Do you know that if you didn’t drink so much beer, that money could have been put in a step-up interest savings account and after accounting
for compound interest for the past 20 years, you could have now bought a Ferrari?
 
Man:
Do you drink beer?
 
Woman:
No
 
Man:
Where’s your Ferrari?
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Chris_ on June 24, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
$100,000 will buy about 1/3 of a Ferrari these days. 
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 24, 2013, 05:15:11 PM
So a beer costs $5 and you have 3 beers a day which puts your spending each month at $450. In one year, it would be approximately $5400 …correct?

DUmmie must have written that joke.....it has a math problem or DUmmie is paying $5 each for beers.....I'd hit a cheaper redneck joint... :-).
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: obumazombie on June 24, 2013, 05:49:25 PM
So a beer costs $5 and you have 3 beers a day which puts your spending each month at $450. In one year, it would be approximately $5400 …correct?

DUmmie must have written that joke.....it has a math problem or DUmmie is paying $5 each for beers.....I'd hit a cheaper redneck joint... :-).
Not to mention another truism of life...Libs don't tip.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: zeitgeist on June 24, 2013, 06:27:16 PM
So a beer costs $5 and you have 3 beers a day which puts your spending each month at $450. In one year, it would be approximately $5400 …correct?

DUmmie must have written that joke.....it has a math problem or DUmmie is paying $5 each for beers.....I'd hit a cheaper redneck joint... :-).
Here is the Dummy version:
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http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1014516695#post27

Star Member Nye Bevan (11,321 posts)

27. "If you buy one $4 latte each day, that coffee habit will set you back $28 a week...."
 
If you buy one $4 latte each day, that coffee habit will set you back $28 a week, about $120 a month and $1,460 per year. Keep that up for five years, and you've slurped away $7,300, not including any money you might have earned by investing your cash instead. If you account for missed investment returns, the loss amounts to roughly $9,300 (assuming a 9% average return).

After 10 years, your Starbucks habit costs you a car. After 30 years, the $239,891 that you drank away (including investment returns), could have bought a house. Over 40 years, the Starbucks habit could reduce your retirement nest-egg by an astounding $634,428 -- enough to generate an income of more than $2,600 a month.

No one is suggesting that you give up your daily jolt of joe. (This would be a particularly unlikely suggestion from me -- the person whose caffeine addiction built that impressive tower of latte cups.) But you might want to consider a cheaper way to go at it.

Costco, for example, sells a 2.5 pound bag of Starbucks French roast for $22; A couple gallons of milk will run another $7. For that $29 -- roughly the cost of a week of barista-made lattes -- you can have a pot of lattes every day for at least a month. Net savings: $91.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/what-your-starbucks-habit-really-costs-you.html

Boo yeah! :-)
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on June 25, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
In keep seeing someone trying to sell a 1937 14' Old Town runabout with mahogany deck, cedar on oak structurally sound just needing refinishing and including a 15 hp motor that needs carb work (I have one too many projects).  Only $2k......   :fuelfire:

See it here:

http://www.nhbm.org/?page_id=1084&id=42


Nice boat.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: zeitgeist on June 25, 2013, 06:06:16 PM

Nice boat.

And if it showed up at my abode I have no doubt I would find myself living in it.  But it sure would be a fun project.  :bawl:

Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Crazy Horse on December 02, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
And if it showed up at my abode I have no doubt I would find myself living in it.  But it sure would be a fun project.  :bawl:



FOR THE LOVE OF GOD................NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never should a man buy a biodegradable boat.  Not to mention BRIGHT WORK.

Wineslob how's the restoration going???
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on December 03, 2013, 09:48:30 AM
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD................NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never should a man buy a biodegradable boat.  Not to mention BRIGHT WORK.

Wineslob how's the restoration going???



It's at a stand-still. I have too much other stuff on the plate right now, so I think this will be a spring project.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: franksolich on December 13, 2014, 11:40:35 AM
Wineslob, sir, we need another update on this, please.

Notice how many times this thread's been read; you got an audience.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Donpeyote on December 13, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
I have same Boat (But mine is a 62 Sears/Elgin) Used it after a partial Resto in 2003-9 Timeframe with a 56 Johnson 15 hp motor and really loved it , it has been taken out of my usage rotation and is in storage in back yard . But seeing the pics (And having an early 60s 40 HP Johnson in the Garage ) makes me want to take the Elgin off Non-Op & get it ready for next Spring/Summer. I have been using a 1974 Reinell 17 ft. Closed Bow deep v Runabout with original 73 Johnson 115 outboard since 04 as my main Boating rig and it has never let me down .hundreds of Friends have gone out with me over years on the  Reinell and the Sears Elgin ... ( As a collector I have 30+ Outboards dating back to a 1928 Elto, and at one time 9 boats dating back to 1942 20 ft. Wood Navy Workboat
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Big Dog on December 13, 2014, 02:43:04 PM
I don't believe in boats.

(http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5097/5389182998_ab9e539fdb_z.jpg)

OK, I believe that boats exist. What I mean is that I don't believe I should own one.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: obumazombie on December 13, 2014, 03:02:11 PM
I don't believe in boats.

(http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5097/5389182998_ab9e539fdb_z.jpg)

OK, I believe that boats exist. What I mean is that I don't believe I should own one.

We need a bone gif to rate all your posts on a scale of 1 to 5 bones.
They are all 5 bones posts to me.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: Wineslob on December 26, 2014, 03:42:38 PM
The boat is still on the back-burner. I need to sell my other one that needs the FWD/REV "clutch" replaced. I have the part but it requires the lower unit to be removed. With the new job and everything else going on, it's gonna be awhile.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: zeitgeist on December 26, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
I don't believe in boats.

(http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5097/5389182998_ab9e539fdb_z.jpg)

OK, I believe that boats exist. What I mean is that I don't believe I should own one.
That is perfectly stated Beagle math.  One bone plus another bone, equals a third bone. Now who is the dunce here? And where is that third bone?? Beagle math is a much higher form of math than one plus one equals potato.  Beagles don't need no stinkin potato. :rotf: Now make with the bones.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: obumazombie on December 26, 2014, 05:54:17 PM
There is at least one other bone off the edge of the picture.
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: zeitgeist on December 26, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
There is at least one other bone off the edge of the picture.

Looks too small for the Beagle, that must be the Bichon's.  The Bichon / Poodle mix is a delicate princess who chews her food.  The Beagle bolts it and moves on.    :rotf:
Title: Re: A hole in the water
Post by: thundley4 on December 26, 2014, 09:05:52 PM
Looks too small for the Beagle, that must be the Bichon's.  The Bichon / Poodle mix is a delicate princess who chews her food.  The Beagle bolts it and moves on.    :rotf:

Beagles can be very messy eaters, too. Ours will actually pick pieces of food out of the bowl and place them on the floor, and eat them last.  I have no idea why because all the pieces look the same.