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Speeding tickets: How do you feel?
« on: June 14, 2012, 01:13:49 PM »
We are having an increased police activity here pulling over speeders.  People speed big time on the highways here (75mph+ in 55).  People are writing into the paper about getting tickets and how the cops are just going for a money grab by writing tickets for speeding.

How do you really feel about cops writing tickets?  

Even if it is a money grab, if someone is breaking the law isn't that just tough shit?  don't break a posted speed and you won't get a ticket?
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 01:27:10 PM »
Quote from: Gina on June 14, 2012, 01:13:49 PM
We are having an increased police activity here pulling over speeders.  People speed big time on the highways here (75mph+ in 55).  People are writing into the paper about getting tickets and how the cops are just going for a money grab by writing tickets for speeding.

How do you really feel about cops writing tickets? 

Even if it is a money grab, if someone is breaking the law isn't that just tough shit?  don't break a posted speed and you won't get a ticket?

Down here in the Lone Star State we just drive the speed limit or the temperature whichever is higher. Keep it simple, I say.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 01:28:27 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on June 14, 2012, 01:27:10 PM
Down here in the Lone Star State we just drive the speed limit or the temperature whichever is higher. Keep it simple, I say.

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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2012, 01:36:12 PM »
City of N.Y. found years ago when their crime rate dropped in record numbers that the best way to stop serious crime was to enforce petty crime.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 01:41:04 PM »
Yes, city county and state budgets are hurting under this horrible O-conomy.  And yes, politicians are turning to their jack-booted shakedown specialists to help make up at least some of that revenue shortfall.  This is documentable, and is neither good nor bad. 

We the people elected the assclowns in our county commissions and state legislatures.  We the people sat on our fat asses, tuned into American Idol while these same assclowns passed law after law after law; making more and more normal, everyday behavior an illegal act, and we cannot be bothered to put down the remote long enough to protest any of these patently bullshit laws that are now being enforced against us.  We are guaranteed freedom of choice by God; however, having chosen - having prioritized the many demands on our attention - He cannot and will not protect us from the natural consequences for our choices.  Hence the economy we have to endure; hence the police state we live in.

Where I live, I know for a fact that the police agencies are stepping up their "revenue generating" enforcement activities.  I have a cruise control, and I know how to use it.  Most of the speed limits are fairly reasonable for the roads around here, so I just smile and wave whenever some impatient asshole flips me the bird as he goes roaring past my rig, usually accompanied with a hearty, "yup, you just run on ahead and go trolling for cops for me buddy".  Most of the time I run below the police radar - I am usually 2-3 mph above the speed limit: not enough to attract the cop's attention, but enough to prove as I pass him that I'm not running drugs or something.  Even this doesn't always protect me: I got ticketed over the Thanksgiving holiday because the state patrol set up a "checkpoint" on the far side of the Eisenhower Tunnel (the trooper claimed that the stock/factory window tint on the rear window of my Explorer made it so that she couldn't see the temporary plate taped to the inside of that window). 

But usually the rule applies: behave yourself, and the cops leave you alone.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 01:42:57 PM »
Here, every now and then, the CHP will "patrol" a road called "Skyway". It involves said cop sitting on the side of the road with a radar gun and another cop farther down for the "pick up".

Still trying to figure out how this is "To protect and serve" and not revenue generation.   :???:
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 01:48:13 PM »
I'm surprised half the cars in Baltimore aren't on the side of the road with a cop behind them with their lights on.  Apparently, 60 in a 45 was "normal" for local roads and the interstates were worse.  Atlanta was nowhere near that bad and Raleigh is downright sedate.  I was doing 45-50 through town and getting passed like I was sitting still.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2012, 01:53:49 PM »
I'd feel better about the cops going after speeders (in fact I got one a few months ago and paid more to plead it down to a non-point offense), if they'd go after tailgaters with equal zeal (and I don't mean partyers at football games). But they don't, just because tailgating requires them as a witness and speeding allows them to nail people dead to rights with a  adar gun. But tailgating is by FAR the bigger problem where I live now, and it's damned dangerous. On open highways, most speeding, except for the few people who are daydreaming that they're on an autobahn, is much less likely to cause an accident that tailgating.

I'm not a bumber sticker sort of guy, but if I had one, it might be "I brake for tailgaters." Those people are friggin' asswipes and menaces. And I NEVER get out of their way; in fact in the daytime I turn on my headlights so they think my brake lights are on. I DO get out of the way as fast as I can for people who stay back a few car lengths but clearly want to get by me.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »
If we assume the speed limit is for the safe and expeditious flow of traffic, then it would follow that the less traffic the higher the speed. If the speed limit on a road used to be 55 and is now 70, and people got tickets at the 55 limit, doing 70, then the purpose of the 55 law can't be exclusively for safety. If law enforcement wanted only for traffic to obey the posted speed limit, they would be highly visible stationary, or patrolling, but they're not. Also location should be taken into account, less leeway in a school zone, more on a super highway.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 02:09:04 PM »
I got a speeding ticket for going over the speed limit by 1 mph (By a town sheriff while in my wife's hometown - population of about 120). Yes, I laughed about it.

That was a long time ago. Now I don't go over 60 mph (in a 65 zone) and keep the RPM's around 1700.

Edit: One of my uncles live in Montana. They don't have a speed limit during the day. They base it on the cops discretion over how big the car and tires are. Other-wards - If the cop feels it is unsafe for the car to go as fast as they are going, he can pull them over.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2012, 02:10:56 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on June 14, 2012, 01:27:10 PM
Down here in the Lone Star State we just drive the speed limit or the temperature whichever is higher. Keep it simple, I say.

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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2012, 02:16:56 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on June 14, 2012, 02:03:28 PM
If we assume the speed limit is for the safe and expeditious flow of traffic, then it would follow that the less traffic the higher the speed. If the speed limit on a road used to be 55 and is now 70, and people got tickets at the 55 limit, doing 70, then the purpose of the 55 law can't be exclusively for safety. If law enforcement wanted only for traffic to obey the posted speed limit, they would be highly visible stationary, or patrolling, but they're not. Also location should be taken into account, less leeway in a school zone, more on a super highway.

I'm guessing you have never been to Houston.  Rush hour rules;  speed limit 75 (ignore 65 posted), following distance .5 car length and lane change clearance .9 car length.  Strangely, it works out pretty good (except for the ulcers).
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2012, 02:18:36 PM »
Yes, I have been to Houston, but not during rush hour. Once during Rush hour though.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2012, 02:25:05 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on June 14, 2012, 02:18:36 PM
Yes, I have been to Houston, but not during rush hour. Once during Rush hour though.

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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2012, 02:33:39 PM »
Maybe I am wrong but for those saying it's just for revenue, so what if it is?

It's a law.  Don't break laws.  If you don't like a law do something to change it but don't break it.

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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2012, 02:37:46 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on June 14, 2012, 02:16:56 PM
I'm guessing you have never been to Houston.  Rush hour rules;  speed limit 75 (ignore 65 posted), following distance .5 car length and lane change clearance .9 car length.  Strangely, it works out pretty good (except for the ulcers).

Houston traffic sooooooooo sucks.  Dallas is bad, but Houston?  It's off the radar bad!
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2012, 02:38:17 PM »
Stop breaking the law.

The end.

Seriously, if you don't want a ticket, stop speeding.  How hard is that?
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2012, 02:40:20 PM »
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2012, 02:43:03 PM »
Quote from: Gina on June 14, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
Maybe I am wrong but for those saying it's just for revenue, so what if it is?

It's a law.  Don't break laws.  If you don't like a law do something to change it but don't break it.



Laws should never be about revenue generation.  Ever.  Laws are supposed to be about protecting people.  That's what's wrong with it.

IF speeding tickets were not for revenue generation then the cops wouldn't hide.  You wouldn't have short sections of road where the speed limit is reduced for no apparent reason. 

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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2012, 02:47:58 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on June 14, 2012, 02:43:03 PM
Laws should never be about revenue generation.  Ever.  Laws are supposed to be about protecting people.  That's what's wrong with it.

IF speeding tickets were not for revenue generation then the cops wouldn't hide.  You wouldn't have short sections of road where the speed limit is reduced for no apparent reason. 

KC 

You don't think speeding tickes and posted speeding signs are not also for the public safety?
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2012, 02:52:32 PM »
On the interstate, I'll usually drive 4 mph over the limit. And I'll factor in my speedometer's error (it reads faster than I'm actually traveling), so I stay under the radar that way.

About 2 years ago, I was traveling in Oklahoma and could not slow down fast enough by coasting to keep from tailgating the driver in front of me. (This guy himself was coasting because of the state trooper in the adjoining lane.) The state cop pulled me over and gave me a written warning. I didn't argue.

Touch wood -- it's been more than 13 years since my last speeding ticket. And I don't plan on getting any anytime soon.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2012, 02:57:47 PM »
I'm naughty and admit to doing 5-10mph over the limit sometimes... I know what I am doing and know, that if caught, I'll have to pay for the consequences.  Unless the cop is having a good day and gives me a warning and sends me on my way.  I think the last speeding ticket I received was over 10 years ago... and it was from a female cop.  Any other time it's been warnings, both verbal and written. 

I drive the speed limit with my daughter in the car.  I should put a stuffed animal in the backseat and pretend it's my daughter.  She rarely ever rides with me because daycare is on my husband's way to work.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2012, 03:04:23 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on June 14, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
I'm naughty and admit to doing 5-10mph over the limit sometimes... I know what I am doing and know, that if caught, I'll have to pay for the consequences.  Unless the cop is having a good day and gives me a warning and sends me on my way.  I think the last speeding ticket I received was over 10 years ago... and it was from a female cop.  Any other time it's been warnings, both verbal and written. 

I drive the speed limit with my daughter in the car.  I should put a stuffed animal in the backseat and pretend it's my daughter.  She rarely ever rides with me because daycare is on my husband's way to work.

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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2012, 03:16:55 PM »
The problem is some departments have their cars out on the road generating revenue rather than patrolling and keeping the peace.
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Re: Speeding tickes: How do you feel?
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2012, 03:19:39 PM »
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