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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2011, 07:55:57 PM »
I don't have a problem with smoking in a casino.  Or a bar....or anywhere else you'd expect people to be smoking.  If you don't want to be exposed to it, don't go there.  I don't get that luxury in public, though.

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2011, 08:59:33 PM »
Well, it's been 31 years for me and while I hate tobacco smoke with a passion, I don't boss smokers around either. I vote with my feet.

yep me too, I get PISSED if I have to walk through it going into a store.  And then there are days like today when I would have done anything to take a deep long drag and felt the burn/high............. :stoner:

I can sniff cig smoke like crazy.  I can smell it driving down the highway if someone in front of me is smoking. 






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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2011, 09:03:16 PM »
It's not so much the cigarette smoke that bothers me, it's smelling the inside of somebody's mouth that makes me sick. 

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2011, 09:44:49 PM »
yep me too, I get PISSED if I have to walk through it going into a store.  And then there are days like today when I would have done anything to take a deep long drag and felt the burn/high............. :stoner:

I can sniff cig smoke like crazy.  I can smell it driving down the highway if someone in front of me is smoking.  

Me too.

I can not stand the smell of cigarette smoke. My brother smokes and he must just blow a halo of smoke around his body because he reeks. You can actually taste it when he walks inside from a smoke break. My mom use to smoke but she didn't reek of smoke, although I could smell it on her, it was tolerable.  I don't know what she did different than my brother but it is like night and day. Some months after she quit (from a lung cancer scare and a lung biopsy) she could smell the smoke in her closet from sweaters or other tops that she didn't wash everytime she wore them. She was mortified by the smell. She hadn't been smoking in the house (or car) for years yet her closet smelled like cigarette smoke.

There was a woman I worked with back when I first got married. Her name was Crystal (she looked nothing like what you think a Crystal would look like. She looked very mannish.). She had the worse smokers breath I have ever smelled. She had bad breath to start with then when she smoked the smoke smelled so putrid it would make you gag. The owner, his wife (who did the accounting), crystal and one of the managers also smoked. This  was in the late 80's early 90's, back when you could smoke anywhere you want. I worked in the front office all by myself yet my clothes and hair would smell like I had been in a bar everyday when I got home.  

I apologize ahead of time if I offend anyone but it looks disgusting when I see people smoke, it gives me a headache when I'm in a room with a smoker and non smokers can always tell who the smoker is by the way they smell. You lose some of your sense of smell when you smoke, I guarantee you that you don't know how strong the smell is.  It permeates everything you own.  

Now, having said all that, I don't want to force anyone not to smoke (except my kids).  I wouldn't say anything to anyone unless they blew smoke in my face. Heck, I haven't even said anything to my brother about how I can actually taste the cigarette after his smoke breaks.    

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2011, 10:06:44 PM »
I smoke.  It's my final vice.


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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2011, 10:13:53 PM »
I smoke.  It's my final vice.



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Same here.  My past vices were many.
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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2011, 10:22:56 PM »
Smoking in public is rude.  I don't want to inhale your smoke.  You also stink.  I hate standing behind you at 7-11 because you smell like a wet ashtray. 

Thanks for reminding me, TC.  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

There's a 65-year-old woman (roughly her age) who works for me. She'll come into my office or I into hers and it's all I can do to keep from gagging. The woman stinks like a moldy chimney. It's honest-to-God revolting.

And then I hear her hacking her lungs out from 50 feet away. Sounds like she's trying to cough up a dripping towel out of her lungs.
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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2011, 11:48:54 PM »
Me too.

I can not stand the smell of cigarette smoke. My brother smokes and he must just blow a halo of smoke around his body because he reeks. You can actually taste it when he walks inside from a smoke break. My mom use to smoke but she didn't reek of smoke, although I could smell it on her, it was tolerable.  I don't know what she did different than my brother but it is like night and day. Some months after she quit (from a lung cancer scare and a lung biopsy) she could smell the smoke in her closet from sweaters or other tops that she didn't wash everytime she wore them. She was mortified by the smell. She hadn't been smoking in the house (or car) for years yet her closet smelled like cigarette smoke.

There was a woman I worked with back when I first got married. Her name was Crystal (she looked nothing like what you think a Crystal would look like. She looked very mannish.). She had the worse smokers breath I have ever smelled. She had bad breath to start with then when she smoked the smoke smelled so putrid it would make you gag. The owner, his wife (who did the accounting), crystal and one of the managers also smoked. This  was in the late 80's early 90's, back when you could smoke anywhere you want. I worked in the front office all by myself yet my clothes and hair would smell like I had been in a bar everyday when I got home.   

I apologize ahead of time if I offend anyone but it looks disgusting when I see people smoke, it gives me a headache when I'm in a room with a smoker and non smokers can always tell who the smoker is by the way they smell. You lose some of your sense of smell when you smoke, I guarantee you that you don't know how strong the smell is.  It permeates everything you own.   

Now, having said all that, I don't want to force anyone not to smoke (except my kids).  I wouldn't say anything to anyone unless they blew smoke in my face. Heck, I haven't even said anything to my brother about how I can actually taste the cigarette after his smoke breaks.   



My parent's smoke on our balcony when they come out to visit.  When they come back inside, I feel like someone shoved a full ashtray of cigarette butts down my throat.  It is so nasty.  Then my parent's were throwing their cigarette butts into our trash can.  GROSS!  I got so pissed.  It defeats the purpose of smoking outside when you throw your butts in our garbage can. 

My mom gets upset with me when I tell her to wash her hands after smoking a cigarette before she even touches Carleigh.  She should just be thankful I don't make her wear a smoker's blanket too.  I'm sorry, but I don't want my child to get that smell all over her too.  It takes us weeks to get that smoke stench out of our house.  Carleigh has always had some weird cough while they are visiting and day or two after they leave.  I'm 99.9% sure it's caused by their smoking.

Then when we visit them in Wisconsin, we tend to use my parent's Lincoln which smells horrible too.  I hate driving it, but deal with it since we don't have any other option.  We just roll all the windows down and open the sunroof.

I agree, smokers have no idea how bad they smell.  No offense!
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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2011, 03:16:29 AM »
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I agree, smokers have no idea how bad they smell.  No offense!

I know full well how bad I smell.

I just don't care one whit what people think.

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2011, 03:19:27 AM »
I know full well how bad I smell.

I just don't care one whit what people think.


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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2011, 06:17:39 AM »
Yup...

The new E cigarettes that deliver nicotine to the brain, are remarkable, much better then a nicotine patch or pills that have 100 side effects.

They deliver the same tactile touch, visual sense, a red end glow to the end of the devise and simple water vapor to give one the feel of a regular cigarette.

The nicotine inserts cost about the same as a carton of cigarettes each one and there are 6 inserts for $ 10.00 for around $5.00 a carton.  No fire is involved, no way a dropped device can set fire to a sofa or  smolder in the garbage. 

We all wonder about people on Oxygen that blow up a bathroom sneaking a butt, these prevent that and the people can with bad lungs that face death from being on oxygen and lighting up can now get their hit in a safe way.

The additives to cigarettes are not there 2,000 of them that are what makes smoking so unhealthy.  The water vapor emitted should have no smell unless the user opts for a flavored insert, and even then if there is a smell, change brands of inserts.

There is a big lash back from company's that sell regular cigarettes, few businesses or bars allow these devices to be used as they do not have the education yet on the fact that theses devices are harmless to  the user or others around them.

I will call ahead to eating and drinking establishments to inquire if the E- Cigarette is allowed. ---There are some places that have no problem with them and welcome them.   Some others are afraid of the no smoking laws and cannot afford to challenge them.

When you find a place that allows them then one can get back to the comfort zone, order a drink and have a cigarette or sorts in hand, customers stay longer and come back more often when they feel comfortable.

Fortunately most Cops know about this divice and if they see you with one of these in a no smoking area and you pull it apart  to show them, they just go on their way.

This is the future, may be a difficult row to hoe but, for those of us that are addicted to cigarettes and the 2,000 additives in them to be able to just get the pure nicotine and not all the other shit, it is much easier to ween us off nicotine I believe it is the additives we are addictive to added to the nicotine. 

On the other hand ever wonder how many of us or our parents would be here today had cigarettes been banned 50 years ago???

Man walks into a bar sits down and orders a drink.   Woman comes in and sits next to him on only available bar stool.----Woman opens her purse and removes a cigarette case, removes the cigarette and the man sitting next to her pulls out a Zippo and as the flame flickers their eyes meet.--  50 years later you are born from that one meeting that changed the family history.

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2011, 06:21:20 AM »
I think I've read that people who've tried them say they taste like crap.  (Not literally, to my knowledge.)

I've tried one brand.  Tasted horrible.
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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2011, 06:57:33 AM »
Thanks for reminding me, TC.  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

There's a 65-year-old woman (roughly her age) who works for me. She'll come into my office or I into hers and it's all I can do to keep from gagging. The woman stinks like a moldy chimney. It's honest-to-God revolting.

And then I hear her hacking her lungs out from 50 feet away. Sounds like she's trying to cough up a dripping towel out of her lungs.

I worked with this woman and she would take a cig break every 30 minutes.  She would come back in and reek but to top it all off she would spray this cheap ass Victoria's secret perfume all over her body like she was delousing herself.  I got so pissed one day about it I started throwing shit in my office.  Someone comes in and asks what's wrong and I said "I am tired of smelling a cheap whore" really loud :lmao:






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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2011, 06:59:56 AM »
Well, I'll prob. just quit cold turkey and start grinding the road again - I use a treadmill now, but it's not the same.

It's interesting how the brain works - when I'm teaching, I know I can't smoke and I have no cravings, no matter how nutty the kids get.

I try to be considerate - don't smoke around anyone, never indoors, chew a half-pound of gum when done.

So, I'll quit - but until then, that little old lady I never met poking around in my bid'ness can pound sand.  :angryvillagers:

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2011, 07:01:48 AM »
so those that quit, how did you do it?

I took wellbutrin for a week while smoking and then just quit cold turkey on a Monday.   Hurt for about 3 days but after that is was easy.  I had smoked since I was 15.  Quit in 2007.






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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2011, 07:07:02 AM »
I just threw away the pack - stayed smokeless for 8 years, never thought about them.

What's scary is after all that time I was at a meeting and took a cigarette from an open pack - fired it up like I'd never quit.

It's not that hard - to be honest, the waste of money is my main motivation to ditch'em again.

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2011, 07:09:09 AM »
Some reformed smokers are the worse when it comes to being around current smokers.


Hey, you quit...  Good for you.  Smoking is bad for you (so they say).

But don't try to take the freedom of choice away from others.
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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2011, 07:17:31 AM »
How about our choice to clean air, which is constantly infringed upon by smokers?

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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2011, 07:38:11 AM »
How about our choice to clean air, which is constantly infringed upon by smokers?

You've more to worry about with gas and diesel fumes in the air.  Those are much more damaging than a little second hand smoke IMO.

I can relate to the comments of some about how some smokers reek of smoke though.  I'm a smoker and even I find it a bad smell.
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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2011, 07:39:01 AM »
You've more to worry about with gas and diesel fumes in the air.  Those are much more damaging than a little second hand smoke IMO.

I can relate to the comments of some about how some smokers reek of smoke though.  I'm a smoker and even I find it a bad smell.

Very good points. 

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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2011, 07:48:48 AM »
I just threw away the pack - stayed smokeless for 8 years, never thought about them.

What's scary is after all that time I was at a meeting and took a cigarette from an open pack - fired it up like I'd never quit.

It's not that hard - to be honest, the waste of money is my main motivation to ditch'em again.

I know!!  I can't believe they are near $5 a pack now!  That is ridiculous.  When your 6pack costs less than your 20pack there is something wrong.






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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2011, 09:30:57 AM »
I quit in 1979 after having smoked for about 10 years (never more than a pack a day) by going to a pipe.

Not inhaling, of course.

When the pipe became such a pain in the ass to deal with -- cleaning it, packing it, tamping it, lighting it, retamping it, lighting it again, I chucked the pipe. That process took about a month.

It took about 6 months for the cravings to go away completely.
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« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2011, 10:06:50 AM »
I quit in 1979 after having smoked for about 10 years (never more than a pack a day) by going to a pipe.

Not inhaling, of course.

When the pipe became such a pain in the ass to deal with -- cleaning it, packing it, tamping it, lighting it, retamping it, lighting it again, I chucked the pipe. That process took about a month.

It took about 6 months for the cravings to go away completely.


My grandfathers smoked pipes and at Xmas we bought both of them tins of tobacco.  I cannot remember the type but the smell stays with me.     I followed an old man in the mall because he had the smell of that tobacco blend on him that brought me back 40 years.

Darn but the smell of things from the past will stop one in their tracts.    Anyone been around a honeysuckle bush and just rolled in the smell?

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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2011, 11:55:42 AM »
I just realized is took me three smokes to read through all four pages of replies on this thread.  :whatever:

I have smoked for thirty years, it's my choice. I go out of my way to smoke away from  non smokers. In fact I feel I am quite considerate and courteous in that regard. No reciprocation though, I find non smokers genuinely relish giving me a hard time even if they so much as see me smoking fifty feet away outside at work. They never miss an opportunity to bring it up later with a rude comment and always try to toss in the liberal-esque disclaimer on the end of it, as if they're concerned for me. **** 'em. Oh, you would like to borrow $10 for gas until tomorrow so you can make it home from work? Hmmm... lemme see... sorry, I don't have any cash with me.  :whistling:

These folks who make it a point to be assholes to smokers, and thoroughly enjoy doing it, likely have a few nasty habits of their own they wouldn't like being chided about.

I live in New York. The state motto is "the empire state". Those of us who live here refer to it as "the vampire state" for the excruciating taxes. Taxes on a pack of cigarettes are about $9.00 and in spite of the public relations campaign they peddle about wanting to help people quit that is really the last thing they want. A carton of cigarettes costs almost $100 here, I went to the local Indian reservation last night and paid $22, tax free.

People are going to smoke. Raising taxes on tobacco isn't going to make them stop and the state knows this full well. They also are well aware of public sentiment toward smokers so they get away with taxing it at levels that should be illegal. I'd like to see them tax something else as much, perhaps baby diapers. What would public sentiment be then?

I really feel bad for the folks in New York City because their taxes are even higher than upstate, they are paying $12 per pack but what are they to do? That's why there is a booming black market for cigarettes in New York. Ridiculously high taxes only serve to fuel the mafia and other groups to go take advantage of the demand under the table, like these cops in Maryland-

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I'm not trying to bash law enforcement, several members of my family are LEO's. I'm pointing out what a big problem the high taxes are causing. For these guys to risk their careers the rewards must have been very enticing indeed.

I think the biggest addiction problem with tobacco is that of the state government and their tax revenue from it. Like a lost junkie they just can't get enough, always more more more.


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Re: The anti-smoking self righteous
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2011, 12:35:09 PM »


I was walking the other day, enjoying a solitary smoke; a busy body walks by and squawks - You know, that's bad for you.


Zero bouncy.  You were walking and nobody jumped out of the bushes?