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What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« on: July 23, 2012, 04:16:33 PM »
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What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."

I know this simplistic, but could Obama win point by doing this.

I think so.....

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1. It would be to Rmoney's advantage. Bad idea.

Poor fools think that 0bama will cream Romney in a debate.

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9. I agree- it would be lose-lose for us.

Romney will not do well in the debates, and giving him an out on releasing his taxes would also be to his advantage.

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5. Romney is easily rattled when off script

I think the debates will be a disaster. For Romney!

They project everything on to the repukes. 0bama can't order lunch without a prompter.

Once again DUmmies 0bama really doesn't need to talk about coming clean and releasing things from the past when he has a whole stack of files that he has spent millions on to seal.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 04:19:36 PM »
Yeah, I want to see Obama refuse to participate in any debates.  The cacophony from both sides would be epic. :lmao:
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 04:43:21 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on July 23, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Yeah, I want to see Obama refuse to participate in any debates.  The cacophony from both sides would be epic. :lmao:

The MSM would still find some way to declare him a genius for it.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 04:43:39 PM »
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5. Romney is easily rattled when off script

I think the debates will be a disaster. For Romney!

OMG.  Has this DUmmie ever heard Obama answer questions and have to go off script?
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 04:51:24 PM »
I so want Romney to say with a smirk, "I'll release one year of tax returns for every college application, ACT,  year of grades and papers written while in college."  
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 04:57:08 PM »
Quote from: BEG on July 23, 2012, 04:51:24 PM
I so want Romney to say with a smirk, "I'll release one year of tax returns for every college application, ACT,  year of grades and papers written while in college."  

Throw in the FF papers too since he hung them around his own neck with the privilege claim.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 05:10:15 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on July 23, 2012, 04:57:08 PM
Throw in the FF papers too since he hung them around his own neck with the privilege claim.

Speaking of which, has Rep Issa decided to ask O if his claim of EP re: F&F is acknowedging that O was complicit in the deaths of 2 federal agents and God only knows how many Mexican citizens, or if he's just covering up for his friends?
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 10:44:42 AM »
I forget who said it, but zero's team has been attempting to wean him off that prompter, in view of the debates.  It was during such a weaning session that he let slip his "you didn't build that" crap. 

We've all heard him stutter and stammer and uh and er and ramble when he goes off TOTUS.  The debates may be quite painful to watch.   A good kind of pain.   :-)


As for the tax returns, I don't think there's a damn thing in there besides a rich dude.  McCain went over them with a fine tooth comb, saying they were complicated but clean.  In the time since, does anyone really think this boyscout suddenly became a tax cheat? 
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 11:24:54 AM »
Go ahead, let Axelrod threaten it.  Let Obama refuse to debate.

And we'll see a huge landslide in November.

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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 11:28:36 AM »
Quote from: chris_ on July 23, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Yeah, I want to see Obama refuse to participate in any debates.  The cacophony from both sides would be epic. :lmao:

It's really sad that the DUmpmonkeys actually like the idea of rehiring a guy that can't hack it in debates.  You would think they would want the most qualified for the position and debating can sometimes be the tipping point for voters.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 11:41:57 AM »
Quote from: Karin on July 24, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
I forget who said it, but zero's team has been attempting to wean him off that prompter, in view of the debates.  It was during such a weaning session that he let slip his "you didn't build that" crap. 

We've all heard him stutter and stammer and uh and er and ramble when he goes off TOTUS.  The debates may be quite painful to watch.   A good kind of pain.   :-)


As for the tax returns, I don't think there's a damn thing in there besides a rich dude.  McCain went over them with a fine tooth comb, saying they were complicated but clean.  In the time since, does anyone really think this boyscout suddenly became a tax cheat? 

The 'You didn't build that' claim is exactly what I expect to see Obama sling at Romney during the debates as an attempt to minimize Romney's accomplishments with Bain, Olympics, etc. as well as an attempt to paint Romney's fortune as somehow 'ill gotten'..

..from what is clearly the 'tax-cheatingest' administration ever..

Once again, Odrama - you managed to shoot off your own foot.

By defending (or simply ignoring) your cheating czars and advisers, you have made the issue entirely unimportant to the American people. Your administration has also made living off the gub-mint "noble" -That's why this has no traction.

If you enforced that everyone paid their fair share of taxes, people would care about someone possibly cheating. If you actually purged the cheaters from your offices, or even made an example out of cheaters who are Democrat supporting (W. Buffet) - then people would see that fairness is important to you.

But instead, team Obama has started the 'Tax Cheat' whisper campaign against Romney, that nobody really cares about, because the Obama administration obviously doesn't care about it either..At least when it concerns taxes involving wealthy Democrats, or Obama's voting base.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 12:32:02 PM »
Quote from: Karin on July 24, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
I forget who said it, but zero's team has been attempting to wean him off that prompter, in view of the debates.  It was during such a weaning session that he let slip his "you didn't build that" crap. 

We've all heard him stutter and stammer and uh and er and ramble when he goes off TOTUS.  The debates may be quite painful to watch.   A good kind of pain.   :-)


As for the tax returns, I don't think there's a damn thing in there besides a rich dude.  McCain went over them with a fine tooth comb, saying they were complicated but clean.  In the time since, does anyone really think this boyscout suddenly became a tax cheat? 

And platitudes just aren't going to be good enough this election.

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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 12:36:49 PM »
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What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."

Romney would win by 5-8%
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 12:59:26 PM »
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Romney would win by 5-8%

I say Barry looses by 6%, vs. the 10% he'll loose by when he opens his mouth and spews his ignorance in a debate like he did in Roanoke.

Barry hasn't learned that it's better to keep your mouth shut, and let people THINK you're a fool, than to open it, and remove all doubts.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 01:25:04 PM »
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I say Barry looses by 6%, vs. the 10% he'll loose by when he opens his mouth and spews his ignorance in a debate like he did in Roanoke.

Barry hasn't learned that it's better to keep your mouth shut, and let people THINK you're a fool, than to open it, and remove all doubts.

I, too, think that Teh Obamessiah will lose by anywhere from 5%-10%.  It'll be close until the last few weeks, a la Reagan/Carter 1980.  It'd be awesome if Obama lost by more than the margin he beat McCain by in 2008. :yahoo:
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2012, 01:33:12 PM »
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I, too, think that Teh Obamessiah will lose by anywhere from 5%-10%.  It'll be close until the last few weeks, a la Reagan/Carter 1980.  It'd be awesome if Obama lost by more than the margin he beat McCain by in 2008. :yahoo:

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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2012, 08:34:08 PM »
If obama declined to do the debates, Lawrence O'donell would come out and say that he is the biggest winner for the night.

I still want to see obama's records. When I do see them, I will worry about Romney's tax returns.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 09:32:24 PM »
Quote from: Karin on July 24, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
I forget who said it, but zero's team has been attempting to wean him off that prompter, in view of the debates.  It was during such a weaning session that he let slip his "you didn't build that" crap. 

We've all heard him stutter and stammer and uh and er and ramble when he goes off TOTUS.  The debates may be quite painful to watch.   A good kind of pain.   :-)


As for the tax returns, I don't think there's a damn thing in there besides a rich dude.  McCain went over them with a fine tooth comb, saying they were complicated but clean.  In the time since, does anyone really think this boyscout suddenly became a tax cheat? 

All that the dems want is evidence of a rich dude.  What the dems are looking for is something they can point to like this: 

Oh look, Romney took a write off for the depreciation on his Rolls Royce.

I don't know if things like that go into tax returns, but you get the idea, they figure there is something in there that they can use to inflame the class hatred.

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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 10:24:19 PM »
Obama/Romney Debate from ABC News:

George Stephanopoulos: Welcome to the 1st Presidential Debate, I'd like to introduce the panel, 1st we have Brian Ross, then we have Diane Sawyer. Here are the debate rules, President Obama will get 2 minutes to answer a question and Governor Romney will get 30 seconds to answer a question, for rebuttals President Obama will get 1 minute, Mitt Romney will get 15 seconds.

Now to the questions

George Stephanopoulos:-Mr. President, that's a very nice tie you're wearing, did your wife purchase it for you?

President Obama: Yes George she did, she umm umm umm went to Target and picked this umm umm umm out for me, oh wait, she didn't go to umm umm umm Target, I forgot they don't provide same sex benefits, she umm umm umm bought it at the Obama Campaign Store

George Stephanopoulos: Governor Romney, do you like President Obama's tie?

Governor Romney: Yes George it's a nice tie, but I was hoping..............

George Stephanopoulos: Times up Governor, Diane Sawyer will ask the Governor a question

Diane Sawyer: Thank You George, Governor Romney please tell us why you feel entitled to take the job of Presidency from a Black Man?

Governor Romney: I want to take the job of President, it really shouldn't matter what color the person in the position is.........

Diane Sawyer: Times up Governor, President Obama, before you start your rebuttal I just need to say how much I adore you

President Obama: Why thank you umm umm umm Debbie <cue Obama smile here> you look like you're blushing Debbie umm umm umm, and may I say you all look so good up there on the panel

Audience: Rousing applause and standing ovation

Diane Sawyer: Thank you Mr. President, now Brian Ross to ask the next question

Brian Ross: Mr. President, what do you think of the Tea Party?

President Obama: Well Brian, I umm umm umm have to say I like it, I'm partial to green tea but I've also had regular tea and I umm umm umm like that taste too <cue Obama smile here>

George Stephanopoulos: He's just so adorable isn't he?

Brian Ross: Governor your rebuttal

Governor Romney: Are you guys serious? ties and tea? anyone care about the economy?

George Stephanopoulos: Governor, you don't have to be so rude

Governor Romney: Rude? talking about issues important to Americans is rude?

Diane Sawyer: Yes it is Governor

President Obama: Thank You Debbie <cue Obama smile here>

George Stephanopoulos: I think he likes you Debbie, now onto the next question to Governor Romney, Governor why won't you release more of your tax returns?

Governor Romney: Because the issue isn't taxes, it's class warfare, and I'm doing the same thing past Presidents have done, ask the President why he won't release his College Transcripts and Health Records

George Stephanopoulos: Absolutely not Governor, this forum isn't to talk about the issues, we don't want to make President Obama look foolish

President Obama: Thank You George <cue Obama smile here>

George Stephanopoulos: Well OK, the debate is over, thank you Mr. President, yeah, and thank you Governor








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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2012, 10:28:37 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 24, 2012, 10:24:19 PM
Obama/Romney Debate from ABC News:

George Stephanopoulos: Welcome to the 1st Presidential Debate, I'd like to introduce the panel, 1st we have Brian Ross, then we have Diane Sawyer. Here are the debate rules, President Obama will get 2 minutes to answer a question and Governor Romney will get 30 seconds to answer a question, for rebuttals President Obama will get 1 minute, Mitt Romney will get 15 seconds.

Now to the questions

George Stephanopoulos:-Mr. President, that's a very nice tie you're wearing, did your wife purchase it for you?

President Obama: Yes George she did, she umm umm umm went to Target and picked this umm umm umm out for me, oh wait, she didn't go to umm umm umm Target, I forgot they don't provide same sex benefits, she umm umm umm bought it at the Obama Campaign Store

George Stephanopoulos: Governor Romney, do you like President Obama's tie?

Governor Romney: Yes George it's a nice tie, but I was hoping..............

George Stephanopoulos: Times up Governor, Diane Sawyer will ask the Governor a question

Diane Sawyer: Thank You George, Governor Romney please tell us why you feel entitled to take the job of Presidency from a Black Man?

Governor Romney: I want to take the job of President, it really shouldn't matter what color the person in the position is.........

Diane Sawyer: Times up Governor, President Obama, before you start your rebuttal I just need to say how much I adore you

President Obama: Why thank you umm umm umm Debbie <cue Obama smile here> you look like you're blushing Debbie umm umm umm, and may I say you all look so good up there on the panel

Audience: Rousing applause and standing ovation

Diane Sawyer: Thank you Mr. President, now Brian Ross to ask the next question

Brian Ross: Mr. President, what do you think of the Tea Party?

President Obama: Well Brian, I umm umm umm have to say I like it, I'm partial to green tea but I've also had regular tea and I umm umm umm like that taste too <cue Obama smile here>

George Stephanopoulos: He's just so adorable isn't he?

Brian Ross: Governor your rebuttal

Governor Romney: Are you guys serious? ties and tea? anyone care about the economy?

George Stephanopoulos: Governor, you don't have to be so rude

Governor Romney: Rude? talking about issues important to Americans is rude?

Diane Sawyer: Yes it is Governor

President Obama: Thank You Debbie <cue Obama smile here>

George Stephanopoulos: I think he likes you Debbie, now onto the next question to Governor Romney, Governor why won't you release more of your tax returns?

Governor Romney: Because the issue isn't taxes, it's class warfare, and I'm doing the same thing past Presidents have done, ask the President why he won't release his College Transcripts and Health Records

George Stephanopoulos: Absolutely not Governor, this forum isn't to talk about the issues, we don't want to make President Obama look foolish

President Obama: Thank You George <cue Obama smile here>

George Stephanopoulos: Well OK, the debate is over, thank you Mr. President, yeah, and thank you Governor










:hi5:  If the old media had their way, that is what the debate would be like.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2012, 10:31:33 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 24, 2012, 10:28:37 PM
:hi5:  If the old media had their way, that is what the debate would be like.

You know damn well that the media will be talking to the Obama campaign to see how to proceed with the debates to make Obama look as good as possible.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 10:33:00 PM »
That is pretty much exactly how the debate will go if George Snuffleupagus and Co. end up 'moderating' it.
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Re: What do you think would happen if Obama said "No tax releases....no debates."
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 10:33:15 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 24, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
You know damn well that the media will be talking to the Obama campaign to see how to proceed with the debates to make Obama look as good as possible.

That is a given.
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