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Star Member Stinky The Clown (66,044 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217751780I know there has been idle chatter about it, but it seems to be growing more real.Civil war or national breakup.Yeah, I know, it can't be done because of laws. Until it does.The right has felt white hot hatred for us. And now, many on our side reciprocate that same intense hate.If red states and blue states were a married couple, the reason for their divorce would be irreconcilable differences.If you look at a map, the lightly populated flyover states, joined with the southeast and Tejas form a solid block. Illinois and Michigan are cut off from the blue west and upper east coasts.wation so badly splite could connect all the blue states if we could convince Canada to adopt us.Anyway, lots of musing, but am I alone in seeing our nation on the brink of crisis?
Star Member NewHendoLib (58,187 posts) 1. After the Civil War, it went somewhat covert - but the schism is indeed becoming overt with the last set of republican so-called presidents, and the right wing noise machine, all playing catalytic roles.
Star Member bamagal62 (2,641 posts) 8. Parts of us should merge with Canada!But, at the very least, just let the southern states just go their own. We would save money not sending them funding
joemacdawson (53 posts) 11. CanadaHaha. You’d have to make a few adjustments. Like free healthcare and a love of hockey. And you’d have to learn what Poutine is. Sounds gross but delish.
Star Member brush (46,891 posts) 6. If any state listens to dumb ass MTG and her talk of a national divorce...we need to eject them from the union for being so stupid. And they will no longer get the federal money (from blue states) they get from the treasury...way more than they contribute. Not to mention all the military installations, post offices and other federal property within their borders they will lose.And their citizens will not be able to drive or fly through blue states without going through the whole visa application process. Since they want to be pains in the ass, we can be pains in the ass too.And your idea of petitioning Canada to annex us is not a bad idea. Our west coast blue states are contiguous...California, Nevada, Oregon and Washington, which borders Canada. Same situation exists with the blue great lake stated of Michigan and Illinois. Then there are contiguous, blue north eastern states and eastern seaboard states (to include DC, itself.The red traitor states don't have to go home but they won't be able to stay in DC. They can set up their own capitol like before. Richmond is available again I hear..A gain I say let's eject the red traitors since they want to go so bad..
Star Member roamer65 (33,974 posts) 7. It's all riding on next year's election.Last edited Thu Mar 23, 2023, 02:03 AM - Edit history (1)As far as Michigan, we are becoming more like Ontario day by day.…and less like TX day by day.It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out where this is heading, IMO.No, you aren’t alone.
Star Member multigraincracker (29,791 posts) 9. It's not by state as much as itsurban vs rural. There is a break up in every state.
Star Member Sky Jewels (3,302 posts) 13. Personally, I've felt white-hot hatred towards the right since I was 14.That’s when I became politically aware, because of that mfer Reagan.
Star Member viva la (2,191 posts) 15. What about Atlanta...Columbus....Indianapolis.... blue cities in red states? If their economic activity is taken out if their states, the states would be bankrupt. But how do we carve out the cities in the middle of the state?
Star Member DFW (50,529 posts) 16. In Texas, over five million people voted for Joe BidenLess than six million voted for Trump.That is a LOT OF Democrats to write off.If you want the shortest civil war in history, blow up Fox Noise. Without having their minds made up for them 24/7, maybe 40 million American voters might start using their brains again, and no war would be necessary. The hate would dissipate like fog under a noonday sun.
Star Member FakeNoose (28,362 posts) 24. Democrats, educated and liberal-thinking people live everywhere in the USAIn most cities, Democrats are in the majority even if the state is "red." That's how it is.Should we stop educating Americans?
Which States Pay the Most Federal Taxes?In 2017, California, New York, Texas, Florida, and Illinois paid the highest amount in federal taxes by state. California paid $234.49 billion, followed by New York with $140.51 billion, and Texas with $133.41 billion. Florida and Illinois contributed $116.97 billion and $67.18 billion.California is also the state that receives the highest federal funding and has the most Medicaid participants in the US. New York is the second state with the most Medicaid users. Other than that, all the jurisdictions mentioned above have reasonable rankings when comparing states by federal aid funding vs taxes paid.(MoneyRates)Do Red States Receive More Welfare?Red states are more federally dependent states than blue states. Blue states, however, underperformed in other aspects. Below, we’ll analyze the leaders in each category and see whether red or blue states benefit the most. Please note that the categorization is based on the 2020 presidential election results.Federal Aid by StateCalifornia (B), Texas (R), and Florida (R) get the most in total federal funding.Virginia (B), Kentucky (R), and New Mexico (B) get the most in federal funding per resident.In this category, the blues dominate as the most federally dependent states. Out of the ten states leading in the most funding per resident, four are red. Democrat states like New York, California, and Illinois are among those that pay the most in federal taxes.Government Assistance Programs by StateNew Mexico (B), Louisiana (R), and West Virginia (R) have the most food stamps recipients per capita.California (B), New York (B), and Texas (R) have the highest Medicaid and CHIP enrollment.Massachusetts (B), Washington (B), and Minnesota (B) have the highest max unemployment benefits.Wyoming (R), Alaska (R), and Louisiana (R) have the highest federal aid as a share of state revenue rates.Republican states are in a worse position when it comes to states that receive the most welfare, with eight out of the bottom 10 states with the lowest welfare assistance boasting the red color. Democrat states like Massachusetts and Washington lead in the max unemployment benefits. However, these two are also leading tax donor states, so they contribute as much as they take.Government Contracts, Grants, and JobsVirginia (B), Texas (R), and California (B) get the most money through federal contracts.California (B), New York (B), and Texas (R) receive the most funds through federal grants.Maryland (B), Virginia (B), and Hawaii (B) have the highest share of government jobs.In this category, blue states seem to get more from the government. Republican states meanwhile lead the way in contracts received, while Democrat states get the highest funding through grants.(New York Times, MoneyRates)The Bottom LineThe United States has a division of donor states vs subsidized states. The first pay the most in federal taxes, while the latter spend more than they contribute. Some of the most federally dependent states include California and New Mexico, with most SNAP participants or Medicaid enrollment, respectively. Wyoming, however, doesn’t get a lot of federal business, unlike Virginia and Texas. Still, this concept goes beyond who gets the most federal funding by state. There are many other factors in play, and that’s why the situation in every state must be individually analyzed.
If you want the shortest civil war in history, blow up Fox Noise. Without having their minds made up for them 24/7, maybe 40 million American voters might start using their brains again, and no war would be necessary. The hate would dissipate like fog under a noonday sun.
8. Parts of us should merge with Canada!
Star Member Stinky The Clown (66,044 posts)The right has felt white hot hatred for us.
There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site
Star Member bamagal62 (2,641 posts)We would save money not sending them funding
