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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2014, 11:27:01 AM »
of the Quran and the Sura and Hadith," illustrates your lack of understanding of Islam? A "Sura" or "Surah" is a chapter of the Qur'an, not a separate book (as are the Hadith). A tiny thing, but so elementary that it says much.

Why defend people so vehemently...that wouldn't return the same favor to you?
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2014, 11:50:00 AM »
I know that Allen B. West, LTC, US Army, Retired and former congressman from Florida, spent a lot of time studying Islam.

History, Allah, Mohammed, the entire package.

He walked away understanding EXACTLY what kind of threat Islam is.

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2014, 03:22:44 PM »
Why defend people so vehemently...that wouldn't return the same favor to you?

Because:

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I've worked around Muslims for over 10 years that I know of, yet my head is still on my shoulders. Explain why there is an Islamic Center within 5 miles of my home (its address is 400 Budd Avenue, Campbell, CA; you can see it using Google Earth if you're terminally curious), but there hasn't even been one terror bombing or suicide bombing these past 10+ years. Not to mention many more Islamic Centers here in Silicon Valley. I meet Muslims in grocery stores, department stores, the gym, hiking trails, and more places than I care to recall, but no bomb wreckage or hacked-off heads

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2014, 04:53:07 PM »
Because:

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2014, 05:11:21 PM »
Might be anecdotal or maybe he's doing it on purpose. Here's a comment he made at CU in the welcome thread for RustyBayonet:

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I've "skillfully" managed to get some folks there riled up at me, so it may become a toxic place for me. If so it's probably not much loss on either side.
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2014, 05:23:31 PM »
Might be anecdotal or maybe he's doing it on purpose. Here's a comment he made at CU in the welcome thread for RustyBayonet:

Deliberate obtuseness is considered a "skill"?



I guess if you're a Silicon Valley titan, it must be.  Too bad us old military guys aren't bright enough to "get it".
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2014, 06:06:36 PM »
Deliberate obtuseness is considered a "skill"?



I guess if you're a Silicon Valley titan, it must be.  Too bad us old military guys aren't bright enough to "get it".

Pete, there are 10 sides to every story.

The majority of Muslims are Woman who never get to read the  books of their Lord and master.    Reason is the faith is a Male only group and to allow woman to learn to read would
cause half the breeding population to rebel.     Worse, if females knew what was going on in the mind of the men, they would find a new use for a cast iron fry pan.

Females have to depend on the Males to tell them what their God wants.   Woman have no idea but that of the traditions of parents, g- grand parents and the community.

Much pressure on the females in the community to conform, not to mention pressure on the
family that finds itself with a free sprit.    We have had a few cases of family killing their daughters for going against the parents wishes.   The Father and brothers are in some way  convinced their females must die to keep their own HONOR and dignity.

Who the hell put this idea in their heads, so much weird stuff to us westerners, but now that they have raised the flag of WAR, off with their heads before they get ours.

Time to play dirty pool against those that wish to harm us.    BOOTS ON THE GROUND, BOOTS ON THE GROUND.  PLAY BY THEIR RULES, A HEAD FOR A HEAD.

Quit this gentleman's  war shit , do we still need file closers to win a war ??????

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2014, 06:28:32 PM »
Pete, there are 10 sides to every story.

The majority of Muslims are Woman who never get to read the  books of their Lord and master.    Reason is the faith is a Male only group and to allow woman to learn to read would
cause half the breeding population to rebel.     Worse, if females knew what was going on in the mind of the men, they would find a new use for a cast iron fry pan.

Females have to depend on the Males to tell them what their God wants.   Woman have no idea but that of the traditions of parents, g- grand parents and the community.

Much pressure on the females in the community to conform, not to mention pressure on the
family that finds itself with a free sprit.    We have had a few cases of family killing their daughters for going against the parents wishes.   The Father and brothers are in some way  convinced their females must die to keep their own HONOR and dignity.

Who the hell put this idea in their heads, so much weird stuff to us westerners, but now that they have raised the flag of WAR, off with their heads before they get ours.

Time to play dirty pool against those that wish to harm us.    BOOTS ON THE GROUND, BOOTS ON THE GROUND.  PLAY BY THEIR RULES, A HEAD FOR A HEAD.

Quit this gentleman's  war shit , do we still need file closers to win a war ??????

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2014, 09:21:46 PM »
Here's a challenge for you to ignore or dismiss: link and quote where I said that all Muslims were completely faithful to the Qur'an. Or where I (rather than you) posted the Muslim equivalent of the, "No true Scotsman," fallacy.

As an aside, do you realize that your phrase, "... the teachings of the Quran and the Sura and Hadith," illustrates your lack of understanding of Islam? A "Sura" or "Surah" is a chapter of the Qur'an, not a separate book (as are the Hadith). A tiny thing, but so elementary that it says much.

OK, game on.

If you actually understood anything about Islam, and either understood or thought through what you "know" of Christianity and Martin Luther, you would realize what a horrible non-analogy that is! In case you missed my posts about this a couple of thread pages ago, I have read the Qur'an - it's an insomnia cure, but I did so trying to understand it. I wanted to understand, to some degree, the people who would fly airplanes into skyscrapers full of innocent people and who want to hack my head off. Further, I am an Evangelical Christian who was raised in the Lutheran church. So I have some familiarity with the subjects of this inapt analogy. Let me try to be brief and clear:

* The Bible is the foundational document of Christianity; Christians for centuries have understood it to be God's inspired Word in its original autographs;

* Martin Luther's intent was to return Christians to the Bible as authoritative over traditions and to the teachings of the Bible;

* The Qur'an is the foundational document of Islam; Muslims regard it, in the Arabic, to be the literal words of Allah;

* If you have read the Qur'an or significant portions of it, you would know that it is the "radical" Muslims - the head-hackers - who are trying to turn Muslims back to being faithful to the teachings of the Qur'an.


IOW: Luther wanted Christians to be true to their faith, as it is defined in the Bible; the "radical" Muslims are the ones who want Muslims to be true to their faith. I'll go a step farther than you. I do not think Islam is reformable, in the sense becoming peaceful at its core. The reason I think this is that I've read the Qur'an (in English), and it defines Islam as, at heart, a raiders' and a forced-conversion-or-death religion. If anyone thinks I just contradicted myself, it is because they haven't bothered ti read and understand my previous posts!

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I read the Qur'an in 2002. I've been around and hosted in my Christian missionaries to Muslim countries at least since the 1980s and 1990s. My "getting it" and "sinking in" happened decades ago.

Like I said above, you all imagined you had me figured out and read your imaginings into my posts. And your imaginings are almost diametrically wrong. Try reading my posts instead of your imaginations!  :hammer:

I highlighted your words that contradict you. You make an analogy between Martin Luther and "radical" Muslims, stating that Luther was attempting to return Christianity back to the teachings of the Bible, just as the "radical" Muslims are, using your words, are trying to turn Muslims back to being faithful to the teachings of the Qur'an.

What say you, Pete? Are your words tasty?

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2014, 02:44:15 AM »
Hey Pete...go down to that Mosque you talk about in your neignborhood, and ask one of your Muslim beighbors these questions:

  • Do you condone or condemn those who give up their lives to kill enemy civilians?

    Will you condemn the likes of al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah by name as terrorist groups?

    Is jihad, meaning a form of warfare, acceptable in today's world?

    Also: Do you accept the validity of other religions?

    Should non-Muslims enjoy completely equal civil rights with Muslims?

    Do you accept that institutions that fund terrorism should be shut down?




If their anser to any of them is no...then you're dealing with people that only pay lip service to being a "moderate" and you're putting yoruself and your family in a tight spot by continuing to defend them.
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #60 on: October 01, 2014, 08:32:44 AM »
Muslims are peaceful....the problem is infidels that keep backing into Muslim knives.
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #61 on: October 01, 2014, 10:33:06 PM »
Maybe we misinterpreted the muzzies.
Maybe they are pieceful.
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2014, 03:39:38 PM »
As overly simplistic and generalized as this next statement is, it captures my sentiments exactly:

"I learned all I needed to know about Islam on 9/11."

I don't trust the bastards, I don't want to be around the bastards, and you can better believe I watch the bastards when I have no other option but be around them.

Go ahead and call me a bigot. Go and and tell me I'm profiling. I don't give a damn.

It's precisely because of animals like Nolen that I changed my stance on various political ideas, to include the 2nd Amendment. Whether the animal is muzzie or not, if he begins attacks in the manner in which Nolen did, he's dead. Pure and simple.

My sister called me a bigot when I expressed my concern. Frankly, my dear sis, I don't give a damned, to paraphrase from Gone With The Wind.

After 9-11 and all their latest exploits, I don't trust them. It's a shame for those who would not think of doing the beheading, but it's best to stay safe and be aware.

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2014, 05:42:52 PM »
My sister called me a bigot when I expressed my concern. Frankly, my dear sis, I don't give a damned, to paraphrase from Gone With The Wind.

After 9-11 and all their latest exploits, I don't trust them. It's a shame for those who would not think of doing the beheading, but it's best to stay safe and be aware.

My liberal B-I-L, a very liberal fellow, became a conservative after 911. He is to this day a conservative, so conservative that he now calls frequently to complain about Obama and the dems around him. He lives in Boston. :-)
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2014, 07:12:11 PM »
You better believe all the bad stuff you read in the Islamic holy books......because the Muslims do.
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2014, 10:08:37 PM »
Muslims are peaceful....the problem is infidels that keep backing into Muslim knives.

Netanyahu was on Greta's show this evening.  He was showing pictures of Hamas executing hundreds of Palestinians to set an example and keep them intimidated.

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2014, 10:39:09 PM »
Wife of Oklahoma Terrorism Suspect Starts 'GoFundMe' Account to Free Her Husband
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/01/Wife-Of-Accused-Oklahoma-Terrorist-Starts-GoFundMe-Account-To-Free-Her-Husband/

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The wife of Jacob Muriithi, the 30-year-old Oklahoma City man who was arrested for allegedly threatening to behead his coworker last week, has created a GoFundMe account to free her husband—who she claims is not a Muslim but a devoted Catholic.

The page created by Hollie Muriithi has requested ten thousand dollars in donations and insists Jacob is innocent:

Hello everyone! I am here asking for your support to help bring my husband and the father of our child back home. He was taken  into custody, and is being charged as of right now as an muslim terriost. We all know this is not for we are devoted Catholics and I want to clear his name and bring him back home to his family where he belongs, and can feel save while we go through this hardship. I am asking for your help because the attorney fees and the bonds are extremely high. My family and I have been able to raise money but we are not able to raise all of it. I am here to ask for your support, and we know some will not be able to help but I ask you still spread the word and continue to pray for us. I want to thank everyone for taking time to look at this and ask that you please pray for our family.God Bless you all.

Some people have donated. Sounds like a bunch of killer groupies.  :mental: :bird:
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« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2014, 11:43:55 AM »
http://madworldnews.com/oklahoma-mosque-megyn-kelly/

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Going only by “Noor,” the man explained to host Megyn Kelly that after two years of worshipping in the mosque, he became convinced that Islam actually promotes radical jihad. His description of the non-public teachings lend much insight into how Nolen became so radicalized that he beheaded a woman in Moore, Oklahoma.
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It's only 3 paragraphs but worth the read.  And, there's video.

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« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2014, 02:33:08 PM »
http://madworldnews.com/oklahoma-mosque-megyn-kelly/

It's only 3 paragraphs but worth the read.  And, there's video.

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Noor explained that the mosque wouldn’t ever relay to the public that they support radical Islam, however, behind closed doors they were told that the suicide bombings in Israel, along with other radical acts, were fully supported. He also explained that they were taught that even if Osama bin Laden himself were to appear at their door, they should welcome him in because “he’s a fellow Muslim” and they “must protect” other believers from those who don’t practice Islam.

Would you look at that?  Hatred and intolerance being taught at local "Islamic Centers" behind closed doors so the infidels won't figure out what the "peaceful muslims" are actually up to?

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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2014, 10:42:55 PM »
I am sure there's an explanation for it...S.V. Pete ?
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« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2014, 08:39:42 PM »
Pete

Would you like to bet a tidy amount that many Muslim schools are radicalized. They teach hatred of America and anyone that does not believe in our way of life. Don't trust these bastards.  Sorry to offend your stupidity. 

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« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2014, 06:39:47 AM »
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Would you like to bet a tidy amount that many Muslim schools are radicalized. They teach hatred of America and anyone that does not believe in our way of life. Don't trust these bastards.  Sorry to offend your stupidity.

The valedictorian for one of the largest Islamic Schools in the U.S. is in prison for plotting to kill President Bush.

That school...is three miles from the back gate of Ft. Belvoir, VA.  And for some reason...right  before we left there in 2009 Fairfax County gave the Islamic Saudi Academy permission to expand!
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Re: Woman beheaded in Oklahoma
« Reply #72 on: October 06, 2014, 10:30:06 AM »
The valedictorian for one of the largest Islamic Schools in the U.S. is in prison for plotting to kill President Bush.

That school...is three miles from the back gate of Ft. Belvoir, VA.  And for some reason...right  before we left there in 2009 Fairfax County gave the Islamic Saudi Academy permission to expand!

We have an Islamic problem in Irvine.  Irvine has a large Muslim population and many of the kids attend UC Irvine college.  The campus there has been a hot bed for anti-Semitism and radical Islam.  The college even shut down their Muslim Student Council for a year because they got so bad. 

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