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Noah S(t)inks
« on: April 03, 2014, 02:08:38 PM »
The much promote movie Noah debuted last weekend to less than blockbuster levels ($44 million) given the amount of money spent to produce and promote it ($250 million). It is clear that director Darren Aronofsky's warped retelling of the Noah story is not going to attract the massive interest of the church going public that helped the last high profile religious movie, The Passion of Christ to make over $600 million from a cost of $30 million. He is missing out on an untapped market. Four to five times as many people attend church each week compared to how many people go to the movies each week.

This movie is just the latest example of the secular world view seeking to supplant the traditional religious world view in modern America. Religion has been forced out of schools. Religious values regarding the protection of unborn life has been overruled. The traditional definition of marriage is being redefined. And now the Bible is being revised to replace the Word of God with a message not found in the Bible.

Aronofsky makes the excuse that there is not enough source material in the Bible for a 2 1/2 hour movie, so he had to creatively filled in the blanks and created conflict that is needed to keep interest in a story. I get that. I've dabbled in screenwriting myself (Jihad on Hollywood), so I know the elements of an engaging story. However, Aronofsky totally changes the message of the Noah story to promote an agenda not found at all in the Bible.

Aronofsky's Noah is a vegan Jason killing machine (without the hockey mask). He believes that God wants to destroy man because of his mishandling of the environment. The evil depicted in the movie is murder and people eating meat. Only the animals will be saved and he will make sure that he and all his family will die off, even to the extreme of killing his own granddaughters to prevent the birth of more humans. Aronofsky couldn't change the story beyond this (or we wouldn't be here). His Noah eventually changes his mind and tells his descendants to multiply and replenish the earth.

What did Aronofsky get wrong?

* The Bible clearly states that Noah and his wife and his 3 sons and their wives boarded the ark. Aronofsky leaves out the wives because his Noah wants to end man's life on earth.

* The Bible clearly states that Noah brought 7 of the clean beasts and only 2 of the unclean beasts onto the ark. The extra beasts were obviously here for food and sacrifice to God. Noah was no vegan and his ancestors included herdsmen who also performed animal sacrifice to God.

* The Bible clearly states that Noah was a righteous man with a righteous family. He was not against all mankind, he was only against evil mankind. God was not mad at men for ruining the environment. He was mad at the evil choices they made. What evil choices did they make? Well according the Jesus in Matthew 24:37-38, the last days will be like the days of Noah. The evils of the people God destroyed with the flood are the same kind we see in society today.

Much like Noah, Bible reading families teach against the values they see in general society - promiscuity, pornography, violence against women and children, abortion, divorce. Not ever eating meat and going green are not that big a deal and are not on the short list of how to get to heaven.

Noah will not reach the potential high box office it could have reached because it is not a Biblical message that active Christians can support like The Passion of Christ. If anything, it is continued evidence that Hollywood is on a mission to tear down traditional religion and build up secularism by treating the Bible as just another fairytale.

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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 02:43:04 PM »
Aronofsky's Noah is a vegan Jason killing machine (without the hockey mask). He believes that God wants to destroy man because of his mishandling of the environment. The evil depicted in the movie is murder and people eating meat.

Gosh.  I even heard that there were giant rock monsters in it.
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2014, 02:53:37 PM »
Ho-hum......I just hope they run Ben Hur on TV before Easter.
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2014, 04:17:59 PM »
I'd skip Noah and recommend God's Not Dead

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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2014, 06:37:16 PM »
You know what?



Coyote butt.
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2014, 06:40:43 PM »
You know what?



Coyote butt.

Cya l8r...





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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2014, 06:43:57 PM »
Was there a unicorn on the Ark??
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2014, 06:45:46 PM »
Was there a unicorn on the Ark??
There was one of those on Moses' ark.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2014, 08:01:34 PM »
Was there a unicorn on the Ark??
Yes, two, both gay.
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2014, 12:07:57 PM »
My neighbor (across the street) saw it and had the same reaction. I won't even bother to rent this POS.
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2014, 03:05:20 PM »
Thanks for the review, FiddlingAnt.  Good Lord that sounds atrocious.

I am so disappointed, because my stepson, an expert rock climber/tall heights worker, helped build the ark.  We were kinda proud.  I'm not going to that movie, though. 

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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2014, 06:36:10 PM »
Thanks for the review, FiddlingAnt.  Good Lord that sounds atrocious.

I am so disappointed, because my stepson, an expert rock climber/tall heights worker, helped build the ark.  We were kinda proud.  I'm not going to that movie, though. 
At least the ark is built to biblical standards. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2014, 07:29:42 PM »
At least the ark is built to biblical standards. 
And a high standard it is !
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2014, 04:17:33 PM »
Plenty of cubits?






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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2014, 09:04:17 PM »
Plenty of cubits?

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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2014, 09:05:27 PM »
There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2014, 09:05:55 PM »
There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 01:30:07 PM »
There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)

There's better movies to get your Russell Crowe fix, Sea: Gladiator, The Quick and the Dead, L.A. Confidential, American Gangster, etc.
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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2014, 02:16:42 PM »
There's better movies to get your Russell Crowe fix, Sea: Gladiator, The Quick and the Dead, L.A. Confidential, American Gangster, etc.

Wondering about Noah, No way he and small family could have rounded up all the creatures on what they considered earth at the time.

Then the Bible does tell of other survivors from the flood, interesting.

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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2014, 02:22:32 PM »
Master and Commander is better.

I never read the books so maybe that was why I didn't understand why M&C got slammed so badly.  As a throwback to the old swashbuckler movies of old I got a kick out of it (despite Russel Crowe whose acting is on par with his singing*).

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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2014, 02:24:40 PM »
Wondering about Noah, No way he and small family could have rounded up all the creatures on what they considered earth at the time.


It is assumed God sent the animals to Noah.  Except the unicorns.

Seriously, scripture doesn't SAY God sent them but it is assumed that is the case, as with other OT miracles.

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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2014, 02:35:12 PM »
It is assumed God sent the animals to Noah.  Except the unicorns.

Seriously, scripture doesn't SAY God sent them but it is assumed that is the case, as with other OT miracles.

I was taught it was the original build it and they will come moment. God himself pushed the animals towards the ark.
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2014, 04:05:32 PM »
There is only one reason why I would see it.... :-)

Lots of things made of wood?















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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2014, 04:10:54 PM »
I'd skip Noah and recommend God's Not Dead


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Re: Noah S(t)inks
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2014, 06:27:50 PM »
Maybe. But that may have been a little heavy for what they were intending