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primitive without power for four days now
« on: February 09, 2014, 11:56:21 AM »
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malthaussen (3,216 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:22 AM

No power for four days.

No heat, no lights, no cooking. In sub-freezing temperatures. What a character builder!

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Tuesday Afternoon (49,814 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:27 AM

1. btdt.

you have my complete and utter sympathy. not fun. not fun at all.

did you have water?

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malthaussen (3,216 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:34 AM

2. Yeah, the pipes didn't freeze.

And there was plenty to drink in the "refrigerator." We were stuck in for the first three days, though, as the sidewalks outside the apartment were a solid ice sheet and my mother, who is 89 with a couple of bad hips, couldn't walk it without killing herself. The car was stuck in pretty deep too. By Saturday, enough of the ice had melted that we could get out and go someplace warm for a couple of hours. Power was out all over the place (we live in the Philly suburbs), and though they predicted snow all week we at least had sunny skies and the temp occasionally rose above freezing.

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sarge43 (18,181 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:57 AM

3. That's major suckage

We went five days without, a shop vac--sucks and blows.

Warm, power filled vibes headed your way.

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femmocrat (15,959 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:41 AM

5. Been there, what a terrible experience.

I know exactly what you went through. We managed to cook on the fireplace though, so at least we had some hot meals. I was sick at how much food we had to throw away.

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malthaussen (3,216 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:43 AM

6. Yeah, just tossed $13.00 of stew meat.

Which is rotten.

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KatyaR (2,721 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:50 AM

7. I've been through that, I'm so sorry for you.

We had a major snow/ice storm several years ago, major tree damage everywhere. It really wasn't snow or ice--what fell and stayed on the ground was almost like cement--hard and grainy. You couldn't shovel it, it was hard as a rock and at least four or five inches thick. On top of that, it was really cold.
 
I was without power for four days. The apartment felt like a tomb. Thank god that was back before TV was converted to digital, and I had a little portable TV that used batteries, otherwise I would have been totally cut off. I had the dog in three or four t-shirts and sweaters just to try to stay warm.
 
There was no power for miles around, businesses had to shut their doors for days. When I came home from work on Day 4 and drove down my street and saw lights in my building, I almost cried. The dog danced when I walked in the door. I was lucky--some people didn't get power back for up to three weeks after the storm.
 
What I will remember most is walking into the grocery store a day or so afterwards. They were still restocking, and there was no food anywhere except for the nonperishables. They had to throw out hundreds of thousands of dollars of fresh food because they had no way to keep it cold. I will never forget how creepy it was to be in a store with almost totally empty shelves.*
 
Stay warm--hopefully the power will be back soon.

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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 12:03:09 PM »
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malthaussen (3,216 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:22 AM

No power for four days.

No heat, no lights, no cooking. In sub-freezing temperatures. What a character builder!

Notice no shower was mentioned.   :whistling:






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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 12:03:50 PM »
Yet these urban and helpless cretins think they are going to rise up and win a leftist revolution. :rotf:

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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 12:04:05 PM »
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malthaussen (3,216 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 11:43 AM

6. Yeah, just tossed $13.00 of stew meat.

Which is rotten.

If it's that cold, how does the meat go rotten so fast?

He couldn't put it out on the balcony if it's sub-freezing weather?

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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 12:07:15 PM »
If it's that cold, how does the meat go rotten so fast?

He couldn't put it out on the balcony if it's sub-freezing weather?

Well, that's what I'm curious about myself.

When a new floor was laid in the kitchen here, necessitating removal of most things in that room, I stashed the contents of the freezer into 48-quart thermos chests and put them on the front porch.  It was November, and a very cold November at that (some years ago).

I didn't lose a damned thing, even though they had to be thusly for more than a week.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 12:27:22 PM »
All I could think of, was Texacon's, sig line.  
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2014, 12:39:11 PM »
If it's that cold, how does the meat go rotten so fast?

He couldn't put it out on the balcony if it's sub-freezing weather?



It's more than likely they live in a blue DUmpster somewhere, and so anything placed outside and left unattended is going to be stolen by their fellow democrats. 

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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 08:19:28 PM »
If it's that cold, how does the meat go rotten so fast?

He couldn't put it out on the balcony if it's sub-freezing weather?



Well, that's what I'm curious about myself.

When a new floor was laid in the kitchen here, necessitating removal of most things in that room, I stashed the contents of the freezer into 48-quart thermos chests and put them on the front porch.  It was November, and a very cold November at that (some years ago).

I didn't lose a damned thing, even though they had to be thusly for more than a week.

It's more than likely they live in a blue DUmpster somewhere, and so anything placed outside and left unattended is going to be stolen by their fellow democrats. 

He/she/it could put it in the trunk of it's car. Of course we all know dummies cannot survive on their own.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 10:07:10 PM »
Strange, I also live in the Philly burbs, and haven't encountered any such hardships.  The weather isn't actually too bad this week and it was much colder a couple weeks back.  The Dummy is only stuck because he's too lazy to shovel his sidewalk or dig out his car. 

My ex-gf was also stuck without power for a couple days too, and she didn't whine nearly as much as this Dummy. 

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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 10:14:11 PM »
Why is this DUmmy complaining?

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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2014, 02:16:03 AM »
Yet these urban and helpless cretins think they are going to rise up and win a leftist revolution. :rotf:

 :lol:   :hi5:

Notice no shower was mentioned.   :whistling:
 
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Can't completely blame the (D)Ummie though.  I'll bet the water heater is electric.  That's why I keep 4 1lb Propane Bottles for the double burner campstove.  Kitchen sink sponge baths.

If it's that cold, how does the meat go rotten so fast?

He couldn't put it out on the balcony if it's sub-freezing weather?

I know, right?  Meat thaws for one day and the (D)Ummies   :panic: :panic:  My main problem is making sure the beer doesn't freeze.  :naughty:

He/she/it could put it in the trunk of it's car.

 :cheersmate:  Makes a very good temporary fridge/freezer.  But then, I don't have to worry about thieves and (D)emocrats BIRM.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2014, 09:58:26 AM »

Can't completely blame the (D)Ummie though.  I'll bet the water heater is electric.  That's why I keep 4 1lb Propane Bottles for the double burner campstove.  Kitchen sink sponge baths.

I can't imagine living in an area that gets seasonal storms, snow and ice and not being prepared for it.  Seems like a no brainer.

 



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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2014, 10:14:54 AM »
I can't imagine living in an area that gets seasonal storms, snow and ice and not being prepared for it.  Seems like a no brainer.

 




Simple, you just wait for it to happen and then you muddle through it.

I was without power for 3 weeks back in 1989(hurricane Hugo). I had a generator/welder that would supply my whole house....but I loaned it to friends that were worse off than myself.

Was without power for about a week or 10 days back in the early 70's during a snow and ice storm. Without power 3 to 5 days several times but didn't worry to much about it.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2014, 11:50:26 AM »
I can't imagine living in an area that gets seasonal storms, snow and ice and not being prepared for it.  Seems like a no brainer.

 





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Re: primitive without power for four days now
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malthaussen (3,216 posts)    Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:22 AM

No power for four days.

No heat, no lights, no cooking.

yet the DUmmy still has access to the interwebz so he/she can whine and snivel and try to gin up sympathy from fellow DUmmies....
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2014, 06:07:58 PM »
Simple, you just wait for it to happen and then you muddle through it.

I was without power for 3 weeks back in 1989(hurricane Hugo). I had a generator/welder that would supply my whole house....but I loaned it to friends that were worse off than myself.

Was without power for about a week or 10 days back in the early 70's during a snow and ice storm. Without power 3 to 5 days several times but didn't worry to much about it.

In the last 5 years I've been without power twice for nearly 10 days each time.  Some people were without for up to two WEEKS (zeit--2010 windstorm, anyone?)

You live in a house here, and you don't have a generator with a transfer switch before your first winter, with your furnace, fridge, well pump, microwave, and maybe a couple of other critical loads on the transfer panel, you deserve whatever misery befalls you.  The morning AFTER the ice storm is NOT the time to be figuring this shit out.  Flashlights, radio, etc,. all come in handy as well.

The hot water in the heater lasted about 2-3 days--after that, it was microwave a pitcher of water and sponge bath for the duration.  Laundry was a matter of finding someplace that was open.

Oh, and crybaby Philly DUmmies?  There was a story in the local fishwrap (Foster's) about a family who is separated because the wife is waiting a lung transplant, and had to move DOWN THERE to find someplace warmer.  And this place is freaking balmy compared to where my step-brother is living (MN.)
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2014, 06:15:43 PM »
Yet these urban and helpless cretins think they are going to rise up and win a leftist revolution. :rotf:

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2014, 06:19:57 PM »
In the last 5 years I've been without power twice for nearly 10 days each time.  Some people were without for up to two WEEKS (zeit--2010 windstorm, anyone?)

You live in a house here, and you don't have a generator with a transfer switch before your first winter, with your furnace, fridge, well pump, microwave, and maybe a couple of other critical loads on the transfer panel, you deserve whatever misery befalls you.  The morning AFTER the ice storm is NOT the time to be figuring this shit out.  Flashlights, radio, etc,. all come in handy as well.

The hot water in the heater lasted about 2-3 days--after that, it was microwave a pitcher of water and sponge bath for the duration.  Laundry was a matter of finding someplace that was open.

Oh, and crybaby Philly DUmmies?  There was a story in the local fishwrap (Foster's) about a family who is separated because the wife is waiting a lung transplant, and had to move DOWN THERE to find someplace warmer.  And this place is freaking balmy compared to where my step-brother is living (MN.)

We were 10 days in the ice storm, and even with a generator it sucked.  My BIL is an electrical engineer so he hooked our boiler up to the generator so thankfully we had heat and hot water. 

We have lost power since, but not more than a day or so.   You really do have to purchase a generator when you own a home in the Northeast.   


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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2014, 06:27:54 PM »

I feel for you guys; this is one of those experiences I should have, but never have had.

I live on the very fringe of the county public power district, and it's miles and miles to the next customer.

As such, virtiually no maintenance has been done on the power lines here since.....1948 or something.

Everything's very old, and I assume considerably less than state-of-the-art; I suppose with one single customer at the end of this line, I'm not considered "high priority" (which makes sense).

We've had some hellacious blizzards, cold snaps, floods, tornadoes, and windstorms the years I've been here, some of them record-breaking.

Other parts of the county have had downed power at one time or another, usually more than once.

<<<has yet to have that happen; has never gone without power.

And being a single adult male, no one dependent upon me other than the cats, if such an outage were to occur, I imagine I could handle it better and more easily than those who have such responsibilities.  But it's never happened.

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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2014, 06:32:51 PM »
I'll tell you one of the big reasons you won't lose power nearly as often as we will/do: TREES.

In the two worst instances, and in pretty much every storm I've seen around here with widespread and long-lasting outages, it's been TREES, not wind, not snow, that has caused the major loss of power.  Ice will take down a power line, sure--but not nearly as quickly or thoroughly as a tree limb coated in an inch or so of ice.

And when the towns/power companies don't want to clear the right-of-ways, the inevitable results.  Fortunately, at least around here, they're learning their lesson.  Slowly, but they're learning.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2014, 06:36:16 PM »
I'll tell you one of the big reasons you won't lose power nearly as often as we will/do: TREES.

In the two worst instances, and in pretty much every storm I've seen around here with widespread and long-lasting outages, it's been TREES, not wind, not snow, that has caused the major loss of power.  Ice will take down a power line, sure--but not nearly as quickly or thoroughly as a tree limb coated in an inch or so of ice.

And when the towns/power companies don't want to clear the right-of-ways, the inevitable results.  Fortunately, at least around here, they're learning their lesson.  Slowly, but they're learning.

Trees are what cause most of the outages.  The power company does try to keep limbs trimmed back, but they are limited by what the city allows them to do. They can only do so much without the property owner's permission.

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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2014, 06:43:54 PM »
I'll tell you one of the big reasons you won't lose power nearly as often as we will/do: TREES.

Hmmmm.

That could be; I never thought about it.

The power lines from the main transformer go for about seven miles over what's essentially treeless terrain until they approach this place, and even then the trees are set back, set away.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2014, 08:04:16 PM »
I'll tell you one of the big reasons you won't lose power nearly as often as we will/do: TREES.

In the two worst instances, and in pretty much every storm I've seen around here with widespread and long-lasting outages, it's been TREES, not wind, not snow, that has caused the major loss of power.  Ice will take down a power line, sure--but not nearly as quickly or thoroughly as a tree limb coated in an inch or so of ice.

And when the towns/power companies don't want to clear the right-of-ways, the inevitable results.  Fortunately, at least around here, they're learning their lesson.  Slowly, but they're learning.

After the 2010 ice storm, the National Grid crews went around and cut a lot of tree branches out of the ROWs.  Yeah, there's still trees that could fall across the lines, but there's a heluva lot fewer trees close to those lines now.  A lot of electrical lines around my neck of the woods are buried.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2014, 08:25:45 AM »
After the 2010 ice storm, the National Grid crews went around and cut a lot of tree branches out of the ROWs.  Yeah, there's still trees that could fall across the lines, but there's a heluva lot fewer trees close to those lines now.  A lot of electrical lines around my neck of the woods are buried.
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Re: primitive without power for four days now
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2014, 11:23:49 AM »
I'll tell you one of the big reasons you won't lose power nearly as often as we will/do: TREES.

In the two worst instances, and in pretty much every storm I've seen around here with widespread and long-lasting outages, it's been TREES, not wind, not snow, that has caused the major loss of power.  Ice will take down a power line, sure--but not nearly as quickly or thoroughly as a tree limb coated in an inch or so of ice.

And when the towns/power companies don't want to clear the right-of-ways, the inevitable results.  Fortunately, at least around here, they're learning their lesson.  Slowly, but they're learning.

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