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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2013, 03:53:07 AM »
Meanwhile...damage control from the masterminds:

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2013, 07:13:07 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-knew-millions-wouldn-t-be-able-to-keep-insurance--report-222249311.html


Over 26,000 comments and almost all of them saying what a liar Barry is.


Now up to 31,413, which I have never seen.  Not a single obamabot amongst them, from the sample I read.  Lots of horror stories, though.  Oh my God. 

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2013, 08:14:51 AM »
So if I understand the issue correctly.  Plans are having to drop people because they don't meet certain requirements such as Maternity coverage am I correct?

If this is the case why aren't gay couples up in arms about it?

**Fixed*** Meant to say why aren't.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2013, 08:39:24 AM »
So if I understand the issue correctly.  Plans are having to drop people because they don't meet certain requirements such as Maternity coverage am I correct?

If this is the case why are gay couples up in arms about it?

The enforcement regulations HHS wrote stipulate that all elements of ocare must be on a plan.
Since very few offered the vote buying freebies it disallows them so they can`t be grandfathered in as promised.
It is all part of an elaborate Cloward-Piven strategy as the explosion of Medicaid rolls combined with the welfare subsidies not only will trap millions on a government dole but also tip over our economic system.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2013, 10:59:15 AM »
Kathleen Sebelius, welcome to an unwelcome Washington tradition: The deathwatch.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/kathleen-sebelius-welcome-to-an-unwelcome-washington-tradition-the-deathwatch/2013/10/29/6019c30c-40dc-11e3-a751-f032898f2dbc_story.html

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It’s Kathleen Sebelius’s turn now. On the Hill, they’re calling for her resignation and tossing around words like “subpoena.” Pundits are merrily debating her future. (She’s toast! Or is Obama too loyal to fire her so soon?) Her interviews, more closely parsed than usual, seem wobbly. Though never a colorful presence on the political scene, she’s suddenly a late-night TV punch line.

And on Wednesday morning, the embattled secretary of health and human services will submit to a quintessential station of the Washington deathwatch — testifying before a congressional committee — to discuss her agency’s failings in the botched rollout of the federal health-insurance Web site.

The headline at Drudge is THE MOST HATED WOMAN IN AMERICA.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2013, 11:38:32 AM »
Kathleen Sebelius, welcome to an unwelcome Washington tradition: The deathwatch.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/kathleen-sebelius-welcome-to-an-unwelcome-washington-tradition-the-deathwatch/2013/10/29/6019c30c-40dc-11e3-a751-f032898f2dbc_story.html

The headline at Drudge is THE MOST HATED WOMAN IN AMERICA.

She will plead the fifth and it will end there. It worked for the IRS.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2013, 11:57:58 AM »
She will plead the fifth and it will end there. It worked for the IRS.

Ah, that card.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2013, 09:24:51 AM »
Is anyone actually surprised?  :rofl:

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2013, 01:26:35 AM »
Megyn Kelly said tonight that the latest # is 4.1 million cancelled and going higher. Also they were talking about near-panic in the White House. The problem is with all those pinnochios, there's this magic thing where all those quotes of the mighty O, up til Nov 4th, "you can keep your health insurance and your doctors" can be played over and over and over.

Hope the Republicans have the brains to do that. They can't always depend on Fox News to carry their water. And kudos to Fox, the only media with the balls to not go along with the MSM line.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2013, 11:45:13 AM »
Megyn Kelly said tonight that the latest # is 4.1 million cancelled and going higher. Also they were talking about near-panic in the White House. The problem is with all those pinnochios, there's this magic thing where all those quotes of the mighty O, up til Nov 4th, "you can keep your health insurance and your doctors" can be played over and over and over.

Hope the Republicans have the brains to do that. They can't always depend on Fox News to carry their water. And kudos to Fox, the only media with the balls to not go along with the MSM line.

Every gop candidate running against a vulnerable dem should tout the dems support of OCare and play those lies over and over.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2013, 11:04:52 PM »
how long will Obama keep telling the american people this story  :whistling:

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2014, 03:08:57 PM »
If Obama had told the truth about Obamacare and Benghazi, he would not have been reelected in 2012!  Period!

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2014, 05:17:44 PM »
If Obama had told the truth about Obamacare and Benghazi, he would not have been reelected in 2012!  Period!

Agreed. Stupid people should not vote.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2014, 05:13:25 AM »
Fortunately the law will fail. Unfortunately what Obombya wanted to accomplished will not be reversed.
The ACA was just another "wealth shift" this time addressing estate confiscation, and the pillaging of our labor funded SS funds.
They knew the ACA would fail or they wouldnt have put the whole "subsidies through State market Place sign up" in there. That excludes 31 states. It is also why the OBRA 1993 is separate. They have been planning this along time and anyone who thinks this is Obamas brain child doesnt get it.

"Estate Recovery

OBRA 1993 requires all states that receive Medicaid funding to seek recovery from the estates of deceased Medicaid patients for medical services received in a nursing home or other long-term care institution, home- and community-based services and related hospital and prescription drug services regardless of age. It also allows, at state option, recovery for all services used in the Medicaid state plan at age 55 or older. At minimum, states must pursue recovery from the probate estate which includes property that passes to heirs under state probate law, but states can expand the definition of estate to allow recovery from property that bypasses probate. This means states can use procedures for direct recovery from bank accounts and other funds. The state keeps a running tally, and even if you have a will, your heirs are chopped liver. Estate recovery can be exempted or deferred in certain situations after your death, but the regulations for this are limited and complicated with multitudes of conditions.

Your estate is what you own when you die–your home, other real estate in which you have a legal interest, personal property, bank accounts, annuities and so on. For cash-strapped states, recovery provides an income stream, and with the expansion of Medicaid states will be in dire need of money, particularly in the current economy.

You must first understand that if an exchange determines you are eligible for Medicaid, you have no other choice. "
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2014, 05:24:22 AM »
Agreed. Stupid people should not vote.

Thats why the President, VP and senators were never meant to be elected by the popular vote. We need to bring back the 12th.
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    The States, as separate political entities, were to elect the President (Art. II, Sec. 1, cls. 2 & 3).

The People were to elect only their Representatives to the House (Art. I, Sec. 2, cl.1).

James Madison, Father of Our Constitution, explains in Federalist No. 45 (7th para), why this ensured that The States would maintain control over the national government:

    The State governments may be regarded as constituent and essential parts of the federal government …Without the intervention of the State legislatures, the President of the United States cannot be elected at all. They must in all cases have a great share in his appointment, and will, perhaps, in most cases, of themselves determine it. The Senate will be elected absolutely and exclusively by the State legislatures. …Thus, each of the principal branches of the federal government will owe its existence more or less to the favor of the State governments, and must consequently feel a dependence, which is much more likely to beget a disposition too obsequious than too overbearing towards them…"
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2014, 12:24:10 AM »
"What a liar" in this case is used to express admiration, not accusation.

It's just a repeat of the Clinton days, when the leftists would stand in awed amazement at what a complete and thorough bullshit artist Willhelm von Der Schlickmeister was.

Since the thread was resurrected I can see now why libs are not insulted by being called liars.
What would really insult them is if they were properly called ineffective liars.
If a lie will advance their agenda, they are proud of it even if caught red handed.
Just spitballing numbers, about 40% of the voting populace voted.
Of that owebuma won about 52%
Of that about half were libs, the other half independents.
Virtually no conservative voted for woebuma.
So according to my ballpark figures, the owebumacare lies were only designed to be effective on less that 10% of the electorate.
That was a nicely focused propaganda campaign.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2017, 06:23:10 PM »
"Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance"

Well,SOME of them may have known that,but I doubt Bathhouse Barry or virtually anyone in his inner circle or his voting block knew that. Or much of anything else.

Those dummies really do believe everyone can have anything they want and it won't cost anyone that isn't rich anything. That's why they register and vote Dim.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2017, 06:31:05 PM »
So this is getting better and better.

In June of 2010 HHS admitted that most of the 17 Million people who had individual insurance would be forced to "change" their insurance plans.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100618014045/http://healthreform.gov/about/grandfathering.html

And it doesn't matter. The media and the talking heads in the DNC will blame it on Trump,and that's what most people will believe.
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