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"President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.
Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”  
None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be “grandfathered,” meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don’t meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date -- the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example -- the policy would not be grandfathered.
 

Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.”  



http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite

Is anyone else not shocked at all by this?  I mean, we've known all along that this would happen so its no real surprise he did as well.  Its also no surprise that he lied so boldly just to get his little pet passed.  

This disaster really is becoming simply impressive.  I knew it would fail, but this really is putting the F in Fail.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2013, 07:06:48 PM »
Hey libtards,
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 07:10:35 PM »
I'm shocked that president Pinocchio lied.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2013, 08:13:19 PM »
Obviously, the Rethuglikkans and GW Bush are responsible.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 08:16:26 PM »
Watching Megan Kelly talk about this right now. She has emails going back to 2010 showing the administration knew that millions of people would not be able to keep their insurance and doctors. She is also showing clips of Obama, as late as 2012, telling people that they would be able to keep their policies "period".
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 08:18:09 PM »
Funny how all this crap is flowing out of the pipe only AFTER he gets reelected, ain't it?

Own it, DUmmies.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2013, 08:25:36 PM »
Just another PBO lie.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 08:57:07 PM »
Just now hearing about it on Megan Kelly's show.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2013, 09:17:20 PM »
Funny how all this crap is flowing out of the pipe only AFTER he gets reelected, ain't it?

Own it, DUmmies.

Glad im not the only one who noticed this.


Its odd how only now these stories matter.


The only possible explanation is that they "wanted to wait to make sure" it would happen, but even thats a bunch of BS. We are constantly bombarded with news stories of what "might" happen during  "global warming" and other liberal dreams but for some reason they felt that they didnt need to report what "might" happen to The Ones pet boondoggle. 
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 11:18:35 PM »
Oh my.

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NBC Deletes Story Criticizing Obama on Health Care

Earlier today NBC Investigative journalists released a report where they claimed the Obama administration knew Americans would lose their insurance due to Obamacare back in 2010.

It was there all evening.

It even made their top story list.

But now it’s gone.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2013, 12:02:14 AM »
Oh my.
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The story came back, minus this paragraph>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXt-xc2CAAAYE_O.png:large
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2013, 07:13:28 AM »
Click on that link above.  For some reason, it's not letting me copy paste.  It's pretty important, newsworthy stuff.  NBC can go to hell.

There are over 3500 comments at the original article, and hardly any libtards.   The article as a whole is at least not fawning sycophancy.  I knew there would be an avalanche of the personal stories, that at some point cannot be ignored.  Our idiotic politicians can't seem to grasp the concept of a family budget.  When you don't have the money, you don't have the money. 
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2013, 09:05:17 AM »
NBC is just another front group for the government.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2013, 09:12:56 AM »
The DemonRats are going to be sowing some pretty impressive losses.. :fuelfire:
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2013, 11:35:36 AM »
Click on that link above.  For some reason, it's not letting me copy paste.  It's pretty important, newsworthy stuff.  NBC can go to hell.

There are over 3500 comments at the original article, and hardly any libtards.   The article as a whole is at least not fawning sycophancy.  I knew there would be an avalanche of the personal stories, that at some point cannot be ignored.  Our idiotic politicians can't seem to grasp the concept of a family budget.  When you don't have the money, you don't have the money. 

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-knew-millions-wouldn-t-be-able-to-keep-insurance--report-222249311.html


Over 26,000 comments and almost all of them saying what a liar Barry is.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2013, 12:07:47 PM »
This should be stickied. I am still surprised it was NBC of all networks that revealed this.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2013, 02:22:32 PM »
Nearly 1.5 Million Lose Health Insurance Due to ObamaCare
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/28/ObamaCare-Costs-15-Million-Their-Health-Insurance-So-Far

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By merely adding up recent media reports, the National Center for Public Policy Research discovered that 1.5 million insurance cancellations have already gone out. These cancellations are all due to the ObamaCare mandate that requires every health insurance policy meet a minimum requirement of a one-size-fits-all Cadillac plan that forces people to pay for coverage they neither want nor need.

During his sales job to pass his signature health insurance plan, President Obama repeatedly and without qualification promised the American people that if you liked your insurance plan, you could keep it. Obama also promised everyone that their premiums would decrease and that he would never raise taxes on the middle class.

Already 1.5 million have had insurance they were happy with stripped from them. If the Congressional Budget Office is correct, this will happen to millions more.

Just a start. I expect way more.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2013, 04:20:01 PM »
The story came back, minus this paragraph>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXt-xc2CAAAYE_O.png:large
This really is feeling like state-controlled government.  


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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2013, 04:37:43 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-knew-millions-wouldn-t-be-able-to-keep-insurance--report-222249311.html


Over 26,000 comments and almost all of them saying what a liar Barry is.


That's amazing.  Yahoo comments are usually a festering boil of liberalism.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2013, 05:22:26 PM »
That's amazing.  Yahoo comments are usually a festering boil of liberalism.

"What a liar" in this case is used to express admiration, not accusation.

It's just a repeat of the Clinton days, when the leftists would stand in awed amazement at what a complete and thorough bullshit artist Willhelm von Der Schlickmeister was.

 
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2013, 07:34:40 PM »
Probably worked better than the Magic Negro thought. Like a good left wing liberal Democratic Socialist, he wants a single payer system. 

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2013, 07:36:40 PM »
So this is getting better and better.

In June of 2010 HHS admitted that most of the 17 Million people who had individual insurance would be forced to "change" their insurance plans.

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Q: What effect will the new rule have on my health coverage?

A: The new rule will allow you to keep your current coverage if you like it and still benefit from many of the new consumer protections in the Affordable Care Act, such as a ban on your insurance being terminated just because you get sick and had made an unintentional mistake on your forms.

If your current plan significantly reduces your benefits or increases your out-of-pocket spending above what it was when the new law was enacted, then your plan will lose its “grandfather” status and you will gain additional new benefits under the Act.  In the individual market, people change plans more frequently than those insured through employer plans.  As such, most of the 17 million people who purchase in the individual market will likely gain all the new protections in the Affordable Care Act in the near term.

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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2013, 08:11:18 PM »
O'Reilly was asking one of the Fox commentators is this the end of Barack basically making him a lame duck the next 3 years.

The Fox commentator basically had my exact sentiments.  He said something to the effect his voters don't care, did they care about Benghazi or the NSA stuff? 

It's all quickly forgotten by the Demorats.  They will remember ever second of the Bush administration for the next 15 years but won't remember an Obama screw for more than a few hours.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2013, 08:19:33 PM »
O'Reilly was asking one of the Fox commentators is this the end of Barack basically making him a lame duck the next 3 years.

The Fox commentator basically had my exact sentiments.  He said something to the effect his voters don't care, did they care about Benghazi or the NSA stuff? 

It's all quickly forgotten by the Demorats.  They will remember ever second of the Bush administration for the next 15 years but won't remember an Obama screw for more than a few hours.

Im not so sure though.  And the main reason is this, the NSA and Benghazi didnt directly impact a vast majority of Americans, just the ones who cared/paying attention.
Obamacare is now impacting millions of Americans who were promised they could keep their healthcare if they liked it.

Democrats wont care because they are to busy tripping over themselves to fall on their swords to save this disaster.  Its the Independants who matter, and they are not happy at all.  Time will tell, but this is very different from the NSA/Benghazi scandals.  This one is dirctly responsible for millions of people losing their healthcare, and even more seeing their insurance rates rise.

It might not end Obama, but it is going to hurt him a lot and cost Democrats quite a few votes next year.
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Re: Obama Admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2013, 08:40:00 PM »
Im not so sure though.  And the main reason is this, the NSA and Benghazi didnt directly impact a vast majority of Americans, just the ones who cared/paying attention.
Obamacare is now impacting millions of Americans who were promised they could keep their healthcare if they liked it.

Democrats wont care because they are to busy tripping over themselves to fall on their swords to save this disaster.  Its the Independants who matter, and they are not happy at all.  Time will tell, but this is very different from the NSA/Benghazi scandals.  This one is dirctly responsible for millions of people losing their healthcare, and even more seeing their insurance rates rise.

It might not end Obama, but it is going to hurt him a lot and cost Democrats quite a few votes next year.

I see your point and I hope your right.
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