Is it time we got together and PAID people NOT to work at McDonalds and Wal-Mart

[Mary Ann]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023285004#post11

reformist2 (4,663 posts)    Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:45 PM

Is it time we got together and PAID people NOT to work at McDonalds and Wal-Mart?

How much would it cost, really? One McDonalds has what, six workers at any given moment? Mulitply that six by $8.00 an hour, then by 18 hours a day, by 30 days a month, and it comes to the whopping total of... $26,000 in payroll expenses.

Look how easy it is for politicians to get wealthy donors to cough up $1,000 a plate at their fundraisers. All it would take is 26 plates, and the entire staff of one McDonald's could be liberated for a month!

Doing the same for a Wal-Mart, would be considerably more expensive, admittedly.

A few of "the smartest people in the world" understand what's wrong with this idea . . .

[dandi]

I thought we were already doing that. It's called welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Incitatus (4,481 posts)

3. I don't follow.

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What good would that do? Are you saying paying every employee to not work there for a month? They would just get fired and replaced. Then a month later they would have no job. Is there something more to this plan that would force these businesses to pay a living wage that I'm missing?

Keep in mind they have billions and billions. Would your plan would require the ability to raise more than they can outspend

leveymg (27,346 posts)

5. Believe it or not, Nixon seriously proposed a minimum income in America.

We would have far fewer McDonald's and Walmarts. Maybe, that would be a really good thing to consider going back to.

factsarenotfair (258 posts)

7. Yes, but do you know what happened when they tested it?

A lot of the women in bad marriages got divorces; I think that's a big reason the idea was abandoned.

So we hate livable wage laws because it allows women to abandon bad marriages.

HiPointDem (19,575 posts)

12. yeah, people who work at mcdonalds have such stable marriages otherwise.
 
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low-income people are more likely to divorce and less likely to get married in the first place. guaranteed income would probably save more marriages than it would destroy, because economic instability is the #1 cause of marriage problems -- not evil men.

upper middle class people have the most stable marriages & the least divorce.

factsarenotfair (258 posts)

6. I helped someone not work at Wal-Mart.
 
On the other hand, I saw someone who had been mistreated somewhere else and fired working there. So, it's an ongoing battle.

Finally...

...someone gives this idea the respect it deserves:

Capt. Obvious (1,911 posts)

13. Better idea: everyone just excrete money

[GCBill]

For people who profess to love science so much, they sure do hate math.

[98ZJUSMC]

For people who profess to love science so much, they sure do hate math.

No matter how often most of these idiots try to jimmy the figures, the answer is:

[Freeper]

Maybe we could pay stupid people not to be stupid.

[Big Dog]

I don't work at McD's or Walmart.

Where's my check, DUmmy?

[Mary Ann]

Maybe we could pay stupid people not to be stupid.

There isn't enough $$$ in the world for that. 

[USA4ME]

reformist2

Is it time we got together...

Who is this "we?" Wasn't he one of the pilots on the jet that crashed in SF (Wi To Lo)?

The primitives, who don't have two nickels to rub together between all of them, are going to raise enough money to pay people not to work. Their boycotts always work so well, no reason to believe this won't work, too.

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[Karin]

Oh my God, I don't even know what to say.  9:00 am and already the stupidest thread of the day. 

[BlueStateSaint]

Oh my God, I don't even know what to say.  9:00 am and already the stupidest thread of the day. 

And you know that it's gonna get worse!

[Splashdown]

I don't work at McD's or Walmart.

Where's my check, DUmmy?

I'm sure it's, uh, in the mail, along with his, uh, rent check and electric bill, um, yeah.

[Undies]

I have always liked the underlying implication that the nation is teeming with like-minded idiots just waiting for a brilliant idea from a DU goon to spring forth and change the world.

[Skul]

I saw this yesterday when it was brand new.  Kind of wondered ai the time whether it would take off.
My first thought was how long before some primitive stated the obvious.

Response to reformist2 (Original post)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:44 AM
Iggo (22,886 posts)
18. It's time we tax the rich.

And there you have it. 

[Dongus]

If the combined talent and ambition of an individual begins and ends in front of a fryolator, why is that anyone else's business?  McDonalds and Walmart both have career tracks available for employees to advance.  Hell, my parents' neighbor is one of the managers at the local Walmart, and my parents are evil rethuglican business owners.  So, it appears that not all Walmart employees are fed on gruel with a vicious whipping for desert.

A friend of mine from high school, that I still keep in touch with, has spent his entire adult life working essentially the same job he had in school.  I guess he likes making pizza.  The man actively avoids taking on any additional responsibility that would lead to more pay.  Why does the left think they have a right to interfere with the perfectly legitimate life he, and others like him, choose to live? 

[JohnnyReb]

I don't work at McD's or Walmart.

Where's my check, DUmmy?

If they're going to pay me not to work there, I am going right down there and get a job that they can pay me not to do......I am sure to get the job because I have never missed a days work so they can be damn certain I won't show up for work everyday.

[zeitgeist]

If they're going to pay me not to work there, I am going right down there and get a job that they can pay me not to do......I am sure to get the job because I have never missed a days work so they can be damn certain I won't show up for work everyday.

When I first saw this thread I thought it was from another Bash Mickey D.  Did you happen to catch this one? 


http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023282701

one of the priceless quotes from it:

reformist2 (4,615 posts)

35. The low pay is bad. But the main problem is the normalization of the part-time job.
Big companies like McDonald's should simply not be allowed to hire so many part-timers, thereby making them scramble to find piecemeal work elsewhere to make ends meet, and of course denying them any benefits full-timers might get, and generally dooming them to poverty. 

DUmmies do not understand business operates.  Any business.   BTW part time will only get worse thanks to ACA aka ObamaCare.

[dane]

Looking at the time stamps on the many responses throughout the day, just in GD in DUmmyland, and even considering the various time zones involved - they can not ALL be on lunch break when making these posts.

So I'm guessing a whole lot of employers are paying DUmmies NOT to work but rather to play on chat boards on the company computer.

OR, there are a lot of people in the basements of their parents.

BTW lurking DUmmies, both of my daughters have full time jobs, with benefits, and they are both registered Republicans.  And I'm retired.

[67 Rover]

Ideas like this lead me to believe that maybe marijuana is not as harmless as those in DUmmieland claim.

[Dori]

Ideas like this lead me to believe that maybe marijuana is not as harmless as those in DUmmieland claim.

A couple of days ago, a doctor on tv was talking about how marijuana does affect your brain, and not on a temporary basis either.  It also makes you paranoid.

[obumazombie]

I would love it even more if the DUmmie discussion of paying people on minimum wage not to do their jobs if I knew there were no moles stirring the pot. Then they could own all the insanity.

[Carl]

If the DUmbass knew anything about business they would understand that even at 8.00/hr paid it costs the company between 12 and 16.00/hr in expense.

[obumazombie]

If the DUmbass knew anything about business they would understand that even at 8.00/hr paid it costs the company between 12 and 16.00/hr in expense.

And they would know that for almost all business, payroll is the biggest expense.
And they would know that on average an employee must bring in 5 times what they are paid to be worth hiring.

[Carl]

And they would know that for almost all business, payroll is the biggest expense.
And they would know that on average an employee must bring in 5 times what they are paid to be worth hiring.

Biggest and also one of the few controllable.
That is why they don`t understand that with all the questions in the air what Os various agendas will bring companies are reluctant to hire.

[hillneck]

How much would it cost, really? One McDonalds has what, six workers at any given moment? Mulitply that six by $8.00 an hour, then by 18 hours a day, by 30 days a month, and it comes to the whopping total of... $26,000 in payroll expenses.

Hey DUmmie, you forgot to multiply it times the number of McDonalds.  The number I found was over 14,000 in the U.S.  That would come to over 300 million.  I guess we can just add that to PrezBO's deficit.