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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #75 on: June 24, 2013, 07:00:19 PM »
Have you considered Por-15's tank sealer?  I think it's around $75 or so.  It comes with all the chemicals and stuff to remove the rust and seal it.  We did this on my brother's B, and it turned out good.
Not yet.  We'll call that plan B.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2013, 08:24:33 PM »
I was just looking at the filter I changed the other day it was nasty.  It is about 90 here today, I took a quick spin around and popped the hood when I pulled in to check the new filter.  Not quite as nasty but not that great either.  I may post a couple pics later.  The filter was quite warm as well as crappy.

I have seen new tanks for the 'cuda on Ebay and specialty shops so I would probably go that route but I figure cleaning would involve something like BB's and shaking around.  Saw one guy say he used toilet bowl cleanser, another hydrochloric acid, another vinegar.   
My fuel pump and filter is in the front, mounted to the engine.  I didn't get a very good look, but I am assuming the hard line goes to the carburetor while the rubber is the feed from the tank.  I could put a clear in-line filter in front of the stock one and see what happens.  Good thing the stock filter element is only five bucks.

I did a little research.  The toilet bowl cleaner (Clorox 'The Works') is a mix of hydrochloric acid and Rodine.   Clorox also has a treehugger version that is mostly citric acid.  Someone recommended using phosphoric acid instead since it would leave a coating of phosphorous behind as a rust and corrosion inhibitor, but the Rodine in The Works supposedly does the same thing.  I have no idea where I would buy phosphoric acid... I don't normally need that kind of stuff.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #77 on: June 24, 2013, 09:05:03 PM »
I have no idea where I would buy phosphoric acid... I don't normally need that kind of stuff.

Try a hardware store.  That's where I got mine last.

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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2013, 09:06:02 PM »
Is it sold under a brand name? 
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2013, 09:09:16 PM »
I did notice a couple of things when the car was being hauled onto a flatbed.  There is an undercoating on the car that looks mostly original.  It's peeled off in a few places but the paint looks almost new underneath. 

There is a lower valance panel between the bumper and the engine that is pretty rusted and need to be replaced.  That's going to be a tough find.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2013, 09:31:22 PM »
Is it sold under a brand name? 

Klean-Strip Prep and Etch.  Any good paint store will have it.  Try looking at the concrete cleaners, too. 

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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2013, 09:48:09 PM »
Have you considered Por-15's tank sealer?  I think it's around $75 or so.  It comes with all the chemicals and stuff to remove the rust and seal it.  We did this on my brother's B, and it turned out good.

I have not used this brand but tank sealers work great....IF YOU FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS...hehe know peeps that sealed up the petcock shutoff on a scooter with it. It is worth a try if you are going to drop the tank and clean any way. glad you got home with it bud.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2013, 09:50:35 PM »
I'm going to try a simple cleaning and inspect the tank for any damage.  If it's bad enough, I may just replace it.

Considering the time and effort, I'll probably drop the tank, drain it, and haul it back home.  This thing is parked an hour away and there is nothing in Columbia, TN that is worth a damn when it comes to getting stuff done on a weekend.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2013, 04:00:17 PM »
My to-do list came out to about $300, not including tie-rod ends, labor, or new weatherstripping for the doors.  I added new front wheel bearings and tank straps to my parts list.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2013, 05:50:51 PM »
This is the filter I just put in the other day.  I put about fifteen miles on it.  Today I bought another one to keep on the shelf.  I also dissected the old one I took off.  I did not get a pic of the amount of gunk from it but it was at least a tablespoon



I rotated the filter so the gunk would be in the top for this picture.  (180 from the way it was sitting)   
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2013, 06:47:10 PM »
A good friend of mine i used to work for who owns a mech shop did the same thing ...his truck had been sitting for years and it stopped running after a few min....tank was full of crap. He cleaned out the tank and then bought a dozen inline filters and ran it till all the crap was pump through....hehe kinda sucks when you are headed somewhere and you have to stop on the side of the road and change a fuel filter ....but worked clean the tank so get a case of filters and you will be good to go.....lol
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« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2013, 07:02:10 PM »
Holy crap, that "Works" stuff is almost $12 a gallon.  I'm going to pick up a few gallons of apple cider vinegar, a dog chain, and a five-gallon bucket first.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2013, 07:03:23 PM »
This is the filter I just put in the other day.  I put about fifteen miles on it.  Today I bought another one to keep on the shelf.  I also dissected the old one I took off.  I did not get a pic of the amount of gunk from it but it was at least a tablespoon



I rotated the filter so the gunk would be in the top for this picture.  (180 from the way it was sitting)   
Damn, dude, that's pretty filthy.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2013, 07:12:43 PM »
I'll see your crud-filled fuel filter and raise you a 1966 Buick Special.

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I guess it helps if you have a buddy along to share the misery. :-)
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2013, 07:15:21 PM »
Damn, dude, that's pretty filthy.

Not compared to what it replaced.



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« Reply #90 on: June 25, 2013, 07:16:32 PM »
Wow, that's not a fuel filter, that's a pudding cup.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #91 on: June 25, 2013, 07:19:07 PM »
Four-day weekend.  I'm tempted to bring the Ford home and put the MG in storage and drop the  tank on Saturday. 

Glutton for punishment?  Naah.

Actually, I think I'll wait until the tank is relatively clean before I drive it back.  There is a Lowes in Columbia.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #92 on: June 25, 2013, 07:20:49 PM »
Was just telling tots that I wish you lived closer I would give you a hand...a lot easier to deal with a tank with 2 extra hands....
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #93 on: June 25, 2013, 07:28:31 PM »
Was just telling tots that I wish you lived closer I would give you a hand...a lot easier to deal with a tank with 2 extra hands....
There's an Irish kid at work that just bought a Karmann Ghia.  Maybe I can draft him. :-)
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #94 on: June 25, 2013, 07:31:52 PM »
Wow, that's not a fuel filter, that's a pudding cup.

Yeah, it is the sore spot of the engine bay.

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« Reply #95 on: June 25, 2013, 07:35:26 PM »
Oooh, Ram Air straight-six.  Sweet.

That's one hell of an exhaust manifold.
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #96 on: June 25, 2013, 08:38:24 PM »
Buy some Bushmills and Guinness and the Irish kid is putty in your hands.......
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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #97 on: June 25, 2013, 08:45:20 PM »
Yeah, it is the sore spot of the engine bay.
I'm going to try apple cider vinegar and finish up with "The Works".  That way I can filter and re-use the vinegar.  It might take a couple of days.

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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2013, 08:54:20 PM »
Change of subject for a minute......talk about mint condition....a 1958 Chevy pickup with just 1.3 miles on it....a 78 Corvette with ??? 4 miles and other old cars with low mileage and the plastic still on the seats.

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Re: 1963 Ford Fairlane
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2013, 09:08:13 PM »
Change of subject for a minute......talk about mint condition....a 1958 Chevy pickup with just 1.3 miles on it....a 78 Corvette with ??? 4 miles and other old cars with low mileage and the plastic still on the seats.

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