Boston bombing suspect charged, will not be treated as enemy combatant

[Johnny Yuma]

 

The White House said Monday that the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing will not be treated as an enemy combatant, in response to calls from Republican lawmakers to consider that option for the sake of intelligence gathering.
The announcement came as a federal complaint was filed against suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Fox News has learned that the suspect made an initial appearance in front of a federal magistrate judge at the hospital where he still is being treated. No plea was entered.
The complaint charged Tsarnaev with using a weapon of mass destruction at the marathon one week ago, an attack that killed three people and injured more than 200. The document authorized the death penalty or life imprisonment to be sought.


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Nice. so all the child molesting camel raping foreign nationals will become citizens first before terrorist camp.

[Ptarmigan]

Not surprised by it.

[Big Dog]

Not surprised by it.

I am in favor of it.

The asshole could spontaneously combust, and I'd be just fine with it; but he is a naturalized US citizen and entitled to the protection of his Constitutional rights. The Constitution is too important to me to compromise.

[Eupher]

I am in favor of it.

The asshole could spontaneously combust, and I'd be just fine with it; but he is a naturalized US citizen and entitled to the protection of his Constitutional rights. The Constitution is too important to me to compromise.

Completely agree.

Especially the business about him spontaneously combusting. I'd pay money to see that.

[Eupher]

Here's the FEDERAL criminal complaint and affidavit charging the shitstick with:

1.  Use of a weapon of mass destruction.
2.  Malicious destruction of property resulting in death. 

If he's convicted, it could be the death penalty. Massachusetts' ***** commonwealth laws prohibiting capital punishment are usurped in this case. Or, if Massachusetts decides to charge this shitstick, they'll have to get in line.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235304578438930168800650.html

[JohnnyReb]

Completely agree.

Especially the business about him spontaneously combusting. I'd pay money to see that.

Using gasoline as a starter fluid cost to much.....frying in hog lard is cheaper, recyclable and therefore eco friendly....make the greenies happy.

[Eupher]

Using gasoline as a starter fluid cost to much.....frying in hog lard is cheaper, recyclable and therefore eco friendly....make the greenies happy.

I like the way you think, JR.   

h5

[Big Dog]

Here's the FEDERAL criminal complaint and affidavit charging the shitstick with:

1.  Use of a weapon of mass destruction.
2.  Malicious destruction of property resulting in death. 

If he's convicted, it could be the death penalty. Massachusetts' ***** commonwealth laws prohibiting capital punishment are usurped in this case. Or, if Massachusetts decides to charge this shitstick, they'll have to get in line.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235304578438930168800650.html

The state can still charge him with murder, murder in the commission of a felony (for his brother's death), murder of a law enforcement officer, attempt to murder, firearms possession charges, etc.

Even the city of Watertown can charge him, with improper discharge of a firearm and property damage to a boat 

[Eupher]

The state can still charge him with murder, murder in the commission of a felony (for his brother's death), murder of a law enforcement officer, attempt to murder, firearms possession charges, etc.

Even the city of Watertown can charge him, with improper discharge of a firearm and property damage to a boat 

Yeah, but they'll have to get in line.

All that money spent on lawsuits. Completely wasted. The mofo should have died when the cops blasted away at him in the boat. That is, if the cops could shoot. 

[CG6468]

Yeah, but they'll have to get in line.

All that money spent on lawsuits. Completely wasted. The mofo should have died when the cops blasted away at him in the boat. That is, if the cops could shoot. 

Truer words....... 

[Big Dog]

Yeah, but they'll have to get in line.

All that money spent on lawsuits. Completely wasted. The mofo should have died when the cops blasted away at him in the boat. That is, if the cops could shoot. 

In their defense, if I thought a suspect would explode when I shot him, it would probably affect my close-range marskmanship, too.

[JohnnyReb]

I like the way you think, JR.   

h5

Just trying to look out for the old hog farmers.....using lard now days is so not in style.

[Eupher]

In their defense, if I thought a suspect would explode when I shot him, it would probably affect my close-range marskmanship, too.

If you thought he'd explode, then why shoot to begin with?

Worst case scenario - the critter would be pink mist and the boat would be matchsticks. Maybe. Yeah, I know that's 20/20 hindsight, but it seems to me the cops ****ed up when they had the boat in their perimeter. The critter shoots and the cops engage. Even if it meant the critter would explode.

Based on the criminal complaint above, including the two bombs at the finish line of the marathon, the perps made a total of 5 IEDs. Low grade explosives. Pressure cookers containing BBs and nails. An imam called these ****sticks "amateurs" and nowhere near the skill level of al Qaeda.

From my perspective, we've got a bunch of politicians who like to instruct cops to withhold freedom from 7 million citizens because they don't know enough about two punks and their 5 IEDs.

Oh, didja read the part in the affidavit where the two perps, after demanding the car-jacking victim's ATM card and PIN number, got out of the car together, thereby prompting the victim to escape? Gotta love that!! I wonder if the dead kid watched Otis lock himself in his cell on the Andy Griffith show.....

[Big Dog]

If you thought he'd explode, then why shoot to begin with?

I was being flippant.

If I had time to think about it beforehand (say, if I was dispatched to "possible bomber in a boat"), I'd set a perimeter at standoff distance and bring in the pros, who are trained and equipped at dealing with people who are likely to explode when you shoot them.

If the bad guy popped up in front of me and started shooting, I probably wouldn't have time to think about it. I'd fire, then say to myself, "Holy shit, it's a good thing he didn't blow up!"

[Eupher]

I was being flippant.

If I had time to think about it beforehand (say, if I was dispatched to "possible bomber in a boat"), I'd set a perimeter at standoff distance and bring in the pros, who are trained and equipped at dealing with people who are likely to explode when you shoot them.

If the bad guy popped up in front of me and started shooting, I probably wouldn't have time to think about it. I'd fire, then say to myself, "Holy shit, it's a good thing he didn't blow up!"

Okay, I'll bite.

Here I am, a cop called to a modest home with a boat in the back yard. Lots of other homes around in all directions. I'm part of a perimeter, meaning that my target is somebody that evidently is in that boat, bleeding.

Now all of a sudden, the jagoff that's in the boat rears up and sprays the area with gunfire. I'm behind cover, but due to the neighborhood, there's no way in hell I can be certain of what's downrange beyond the boat. Other officers have begun clearing out the neighborhood, but I can't be certain that for me, the properties beyond the boat are clear.

So now, despite all that, I'm rattled enough to engage the jagoff.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Oh, just for kickers, the jagoff is still breathing. We bring in a robot to check. 

I dunno. I'd hate to be a Watertown/Mass. State Trooper/Boston cop about now. The LEOs across the nation have all got to be shaking their heads in utter dismay.

[txradioguy]

As much as I don't like it...it's the law.

This is the fruit of all that bullshit about how to handle terrorists during the early parts of the WoT under the Bush Administration and in the Obama Administration as well.

IRRC the Military Comissions Act was in response to Hamdan v. Rumsfeld.

[Big Dog]

Okay, I'll bite.

Here I am, a cop called to a modest home with a boat in the back yard. Lots of other homes around in all directions. I'm part of a perimeter, meaning that my target is somebody that evidently is in that boat, bleeding.

Now all of a sudden, the jagoff that's in the boat rears up and sprays the area with gunfire. I'm behind cover, but due to the neighborhood, there's no way in hell I can be certain of what's downrange beyond the boat. Other officers have begun clearing out the neighborhood, but I can't be certain that for me, the properties beyond the boat are clear.

So now, despite all that, I'm rattled enough to engage the jagoff.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Oh, just for kickers, the jagoff is still breathing. We bring in a robot to check. 

I dunno. I'd hate to be a Watertown/Mass. State Trooper/Boston cop about now. The LEOs across the nation have all got to be shaking their heads in utter dismay.

"I wish I could call in an air strike" may have crossed a mind or two...