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What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« on: March 27, 2013, 04:51:28 PM »
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I’ve recently been invited to a couple of gay weddings. So — what with being Christian and all — I asked myself the famous, “What would Jesus do?” (Which I don’t too often ask myself, actually, since Jesus could, for instance, raise people from the dead and turn water into wine, whereas I can barely drag myself out of bed in the morning and/or turn water into coffee. Safe to say many of His options are none of mine.)

http://johnshore.com/2008/07/15/what-would-jesus-do-if-invited-to-a-gay-wedding/

It's an article from 2008.   Saw it just a few mins ago on Facebook, thought I'd bring it over for discussion (It's not a long read). 

I went to a gay wedding once years ago.   While I don't condone the lifestyle or gay marriage at all, I wanted to be supportive to my friend. 

Your thoughts?
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 05:13:43 PM »
If I were Jesus....I'd tear the place apart and throw all the pervert supporting fornicators out on their asses.....but fortunately for the DUmmies, I'm not Jesus and that's probably the exact opposite of what he would do.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 05:13:55 PM »
http://johnshore.com/2008/07/15/what-would-jesus-do-if-invited-to-a-gay-wedding/

It's an article from 2008.   Saw it just a few mins ago on Facebook, thought I'd bring it over for discussion (It's not a long read). 

I went to a gay wedding once years ago.   While I don't condone the lifestyle or gay marriage at all, I wanted to be supportive to my friend. 

Your thoughts?

The closest analogy I can come up with is Jesus and the Samaritan woman at the well (She was living in sin with a man). He didn't visit her home; but he did preach to her and saved her. He also ate at the home of Matthew, the tax collector.

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Jesus ate dinner at Matthew's house. Many tax collectors and other bad people came and ate with Jesus and his followers. The Pharisees saw that Jesus was eating with these people. The Pharisees asked Jesus' followers, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and other bad people?" Jesus heard the Pharisees say this. So Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Healthy people don't need a doctor. It is the sick people that need a doctor." (ERV)

Based on those cases; I believe he would go (but he would probably preach to them while there).
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 05:25:38 PM »
The closest analogy I can come up with is Jesus and the Samaritan woman at the well (She was living in sin with a man). He didn't visit her home; but he did preach to her and saved her. He also ate at the home of Matthew, the tax collector.

Based on those cases; I believe he would go (but he would probably preach to them while there).

The DUmmies would probably tell him to mind his own business.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 05:31:43 PM »
The DUmmies would probably tell him to mind his own business.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 07:01:05 PM »
He'd preach to them.

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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2013, 07:04:25 PM »
He would lay his hands on them and turn them straight.


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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 04:47:37 AM »
I suspect that he would suggest that he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 09:40:02 AM »
I suspect that he would suggest that he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Yes I think he would say something like that. I like to think that Jesus was a compassionate man. I guess that is another question to ask him in the hereafter..
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2013, 10:36:36 AM »
I suspect that he would suggest that he who is without sin cast the first stone.
He would also remind those engaging in the sinful behavior that it was sinful and they should repent and sin no more.Since many Homosexuals and secularists lack  introspection and humility however , it would fall on deaf ears. Make no mistake he was compassionate but also expected people to follow Gods law.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2013, 02:55:57 PM »
He would also remind those engaging in the sinful behavior that it was sinful and they should repent and sin no more.Since many Homosexuals and secularists lack  introspection and humility however , it would fall on deaf ears. Make no mistake he was compassionate but also expected people to follow Gods law.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2013, 03:42:30 PM »
Do any of you believe the "science" that says people are born that way? (homosexual)
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2013, 04:16:19 PM »
Do any of you believe the "science" that says people are born that way? (homosexual)

Maybe, but not all of the tripe. I have a gay nephew who's been averse to dating females all of life. Now he has a "partner."
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2013, 04:25:07 PM »
Maybe, but not all of the tripe. I have a gay nephew who's been averse to dating females all of life. Now he has a "partner."

My best friend in High School "went" homosexual sometime in his late 20s or so from what I hear.  He had one of the best looking girlfriends around when I used to hang out with him.  We lost touch for about 20 years after graduation.  I reached out to him a few times a few years ago and he wasn't interested in renewing the friendship.  I was pretty disappointed about that.  He was one of the finest people I ever knew.

Funny thing is...  I always kind of figured he was gay.  He had some effeminate ways about him.  I wasn't the least bit surprised when I heard that he had come out of the closet.  It broke his poor mother's heart though.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2013, 04:38:44 PM »
Do any of you believe the "science" that says people are born that way? (homosexual)

Tricky question there.   Science looking into baby's born with both sexes were studied.   Most parents had to make a choice and have the baby under go sex surgery to remove one sex.   Odd the parents were not really given a few years to see how the child developed before the surgery but I imagine the parents were in shock and could not think ahead.

Later in life an unfortunate majority found the parents chose the wrong sex to be saved.   I have not yet found any studies on children whose parents raised a bisexual child or how it effected their later years.   One would think one of the sex equipment would function better then then other, but ----

I have been taught that the body is just a instrument to cart the brain around.   No telling, some people are born left handed, some are born with the unique abilities of the artist or musician.

Sex stems from the brain to insure we respond to signals as sight, hearing, smell, touch, most of this is learned behavior, but-----

How to explain personality differences in siblings born to the same parents ???? So I go out on a limb here and state that we see this every day among animals also.

I see no reason that a child can not be born with the brain of one sex and the body of another.  

We Puritans equate sex with love for a good reason, helps keep the family intact and survive.  I do not know what century the idea of love came into being, people had arranged marages and learned to care for each other.   Same sex love was very common in the mid 1800's.   No sex involved just the deep caring for a friend.    

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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2013, 05:21:49 PM »
Do any of you believe the "science" that says people are born that way? (homosexual)

No.  There is no science that conclusively proves they are.  "Sexual Orientation" is a misnomer.  The correct term should be "sexual choice".
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2013, 06:43:08 PM »
My best friend in High School "went" homosexual sometime in his late 20s or so from what I hear.  He had one of the best looking girlfriends around when I used to hang out with him.  We lost touch for about 20 years after graduation.  I reached out to him a few times a few years ago and he wasn't interested in renewing the friendship.  I was pretty disappointed about that.  He was one of the finest people I ever knew.

Funny thing is...  I always kind of figured he was gay.  He had some effeminate ways about him.  I wasn't the least bit surprised when I heard that he had come out of the closet.  It broke his poor mother's heart though.

I had a classmate that most of us suspected was gay, but no one ever teased him about it.  I saw him at a couple of class reunions in the intervening years and he was still single. He had 3 sisters, 2 brothers and both parents and lived/worked on  a farm in school.  That would point to nature not nurture in his case.

He came out publicly on the news protesting for gay rights at the state capitol in Springfield.  The bad thing is , he seems to avoid all his old classmates, even though he still lives in the area. One of his sisters said that is on Facebook, but he only has family on his friends list.

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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2013, 07:45:14 PM »
The question I ask myself, and will ask each of you...If you have/had a relative/friend that was homosexual, would you love tht person any less, or lose respect if they came out?? For myself, honestly, no. It is the same person, it is just their sexual choice is different.
There are a good handful that are gay that I work with.  They are great people and great people to work with...
Why should I put my friendship with them or my respect for them on the line, because of a personal choice?
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2013, 07:56:00 PM »
Do any of you believe the "science" that says people are born that way? (homosexual)

No. Not for everyone. Have known too many gay men who I knew before gayness who liked girls and I can remember as young men being groomed looking back. I think there are a couple of reasons: hormonal issues in uterine or think flamboyant males and mannish females and then those that have been abused or groomed. I believe both are either treatable or avoidable. A handful I would say may have a genetic issue since I don't know it can be entirely ruled out.

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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2013, 08:02:35 PM »
The question I ask myself, and will ask each of you...If you have/had a relative/friend that was homosexual, would you love tht person any less, or lose respect if they came out?? For myself, honestly, no. It is the same person, it is just their sexual choice is different.
There are a good handful that are gay that I work with.  They are great people and great people to work with...
Why should I put my friendship with them or my respect for them on the line, because of a personal choice?

I don't need to ask myself that since I have a transgendered person in my family and several dear gay friends make and female. I don't care for the advocacy and some of the stupid crap they post but I love them as friends and in the other case as family. One if the sweetest and most considerate guys I know at work is a middle aged gayan. He always gives me cards and a little candy on holidays like Easter and I make it a point to hug him as I would a friend during holidays. He's just a very thoughtful sweet and yea funny individual. It pains me though when gays are dishonest that conservatives or Christians hate them most know that's a lie since I'm sure they have to have many friends who qualify as that considering my own experiences. I wonder sometime did they need to be asked the question you asked sea about someone who disagrees with them who they know cares for them.

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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2013, 01:13:43 AM »
He would also remind those engaging in the sinful behavior that it was sinful and they should repent and sin no more.

Put down that stone for a sec and share an instance where Jesus pointed out the sin(s) of someone who was not part of the Jewish temple, the organized religion of the time and region.

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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2013, 01:42:04 AM »
Since many Homosexuals and secularists lack  introspection and humility however , it would fall on deaf ears.

You sound very sure of your judgment.

"Make no mistake he was compassionate but also expected people to follow Gods law."

I seem to recall that Jesus made a habit of breaking the Hebrew Laws of the day (eg eating the sacrificial bread from the temple, toiling on the sabbath, etc.) and confounding the religious leaders with his excuse for doing so.

I personally think that godly people serve the will of god best when they look to their own walk and resist the temptation to pass judgment on the walk of another, regardless of the faults one perceives in another's progress.  I guess I trust my God to pass judgment where such judgment is called for; and in that trust I feel liberated in my approach to my fellow human being.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2013, 02:27:18 AM »
Jesus is everywhere. Including gay weddings.

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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2013, 01:11:58 PM »
Put down that stone for a sec and share an instance where Jesus pointed out the sin(s) of someone who was not part of the Jewish temple, the organized religion of the time and region.

Thanks.
Oh! So you're saying that because one isn't part of the jewish temple the commandments don't apply to you? You honestly think that Christ only believed that jews were the only human beings who sinned?  So  you actually believe you can do whatever you want,not be sorry or remorseful about it even if it is against a commandment and still be ok with God? I sin everyday....every human being does. The difference as I have seen it between Christians and secularists is that secularists believe that nothing is greater than the human being. You are the beginning and the end. Christians believe that isn't so.  No one picked up a stone but someone touched a nerve apparently! Btw he actually told that woman who was about to be stoned to go and sin no more.Meaning she had sinned but it wasn't mans place to judge her it's Gods.Warning your fellow man about Gods judgement is not judging no matter what you may believe.It is an act of love.But I don't expect you to see that.
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Re: What Would Jesus Do If Invited to a Gay Wedding?
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2013, 01:35:13 PM »
The question I ask myself, and will ask each of you...If you have/had a relative/friend that was homosexual, would you love tht person any less, or lose respect if they came out?? For myself, honestly, no. It is the same person, it is just their sexual choice is different.
There are a good handful that are gay that I work with.  They are great people and great people to work with...
Why should I put my friendship with them or my respect for them on the line, because of a personal choice?

Nope.  At one time, 20% of my living family was gay.  Now it's 30%.  We are a small family. (speaking of blood relatives, steps and in-laws make it seem not so abnormally small.)
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