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Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« on: January 09, 2013, 01:50:53 PM »
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NEW YORK -- Steroid-tainted stars Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Sammy Sosa were denied entry to baseball's Hall of Fame, with voters failing to elect any candidates for only the second time in four decades.

Bonds received just 36.2 percent of the vote, Clemens 37.6 and Sosa 12.5 in totals announced Wednesday by the Hall and the Baseball Writers' Association of America. They were appearing on the ballot for the first time and have up to 14 more years to make it to Cooperstown.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8828339/no-players-elected-baseball-hall-fame-writers

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Re: Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 01:56:57 PM »
Bonds & Clemens will eventually make it.

Biggio, Bagwell & Piazza deserve it, as have a few others on this year's ballot.  The steroid taint has affected everyone from that era.

Shall be interesting to see the voting over the next few years, especially with Maddux, Glavine, Thomas, P. Martinez, among others becoming eligible.
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Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 02:04:12 PM »
I suppose that you could go with batting titles and such, but HoF? NO!!!! Performance enhancing drugs and the HoF do not mix.
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Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 02:09:00 PM »
I suppose that you could go with batting titles and such, but HoF? NO!!!! Performance enhancing drugs and the HoF do not mix.

I'd rather see Pete Rose allowed in before them.

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Re: Re: Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 02:51:35 PM »
I suppose that you could go with batting titles and such, but HoF? NO!!!! Performance enhancing drugs and the HoF do not mix.

What about all the Hall of Famers who admittedly relied on illegal amphetamines?  Pitchers who admittedly doctored the baseball repeatedly?

Where does one draw the moral line?  I really have no answer.
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Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 04:52:06 PM »
I'd rather see Pete Rose allowed in before them.

His transgressions of gambling were not a factor when he was playing. That came after he retired; if he had not coached, he would be in the Hall.

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Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 08:59:50 PM »
Biggio should have been in.  Ditto Morris.

As for the rest of them?  Eff 'em.
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Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 01:39:53 PM »
His transgressions of gambling were not a factor when he was playing. That came after he retired; if he had not coached, he would be in the Hall.

I agree. No reason he shouldn't have been allowed in as a player.
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Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 02:12:35 PM »
I agree. No reason he shouldn't have been allowed in as a player.

Problem is, he's not about to apologize to Selig.  No apology, no clearing the ban, no Cooperstown.
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Re: Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2013, 02:40:40 PM »
I don't blog, but could write a doctoral type dissertation on the baseball Hall of Fame. Even involving everything before the current crap going on.

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Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2013, 08:45:35 PM »
Problem is, he's not about to apologize to Selig.  No apology, no clearing the ban, no Cooperstown.

Plus he lied about it which did not help his cause either. He needs to eat a little humble pie. 

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Re: Re: Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 10:17:04 PM »
Plus he lied about it which did not help his cause either. He needs to eat a little humble pie. 

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Re: Re: Bonds, Clemens and Sosa all fall short of HOF
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 12:30:02 PM »
Bonds & Clemens will eventually make it.

Biggio, Bagwell & Piazza deserve it, as have a few others on this year's ballot.  The steroid taint has affected everyone from that era.

Shall be interesting to see the voting over the next few years, especially with Maddux, Glavine, Thomas, P. Martinez, among others becoming eligible.

Biggio maybe mext year.  Maddux definitely next year.  Maybe even Glavine.  Outside shot, and I mean outside, at Piazza next year.
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