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Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« on: August 17, 2012, 07:28:04 PM »
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I have no words, but I suspect Agent Mike does -- BTW primitives.. This post qualifies as inciting 'stochastic terrorism' according to your definition of the term.

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Why was the guillotine invented?


 
Was it for the elitists that thought they were better than everyone else and did not have to follow the same rules or the same laws? Was it for those that indulged in greedy deception to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else? Was it for those that lied to the people to gain power and wealth? Do you think we could use one of those contraptions nowadays? :)

Yes, he ended that with a smiley face.

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Sean & Rush could have an excuse for knowing nothing.

More of those 'stochastic terrorism' suggestions ?

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2. It was invented to provide an efficient means of killing that also made for great public spectacle.

That kind of thing is regarded as barbaric by most modern, civilized people.

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3. I could see how...

...heads rolling into baskets would be considered barbaric, and below the dignity of civilized folks, even for the despicable crime of elitism and greed.

kentuck, if elitism were a crime punishable by beheading, you would have been executed hundreds of times by now. Beheaded, head reattached, beheaded again. lather, rinse, repeat.
 
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4. Invented by Dr. Guillotin

as a supposedly humane way to execute people, as opposed to hanging.

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5. More efficient than hanging.

--imm

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6. Actually, kind of a funny story

The guy who invented it actually had his head chopped off by one during the french revolution.

That's a laugh-out-loud riot, right there...   :whatever:
 
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7. A number of people who lived by the guillotine, also died by the guillotine

Just saying......

asswipe=kentuck.

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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 07:33:54 PM »
No matter what method used these cretins don`t realize they would be among the first to suffer its fate in the leftist utopia they dream of.


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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 07:36:00 PM »
I am reminded of the Aggie, The Okie, and the Arkie facing the guillotine.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 07:38:31 PM »
DUmmies don't like guns but they love guillotines. Simply weird.

Incidentally, I used to love this old movie called Two on a Guillotine. Haven't seen it since I was a kid, though.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 08:20:16 PM »
Imagine a row of guillotines with the holes where the head is placed painted to look like assholes and plates of Cheetos rigged to the releases like one of those old fashion rat traps. I wonder what would happen.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 08:28:36 PM »
Again and again, DUmmies fantasize about killing. This recurrent theme reveals a lot about DU and its membership.
and this just a day after the attempted mass murder at a Conservative Christian site in DC.

CC isn't the only group monitoring the rabble.

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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 08:52:06 PM »
They are the true heirs of The Terror.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 08:58:29 PM »
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times


it is a far far better place that I have ever been
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 09:01:36 PM »
I always thought the guillotine was developed because up to that time they had a guy that would take a very large axe to someone's neck and sometimes it was quite messy and not kill the executionee outright. If I remember correctly, the guillotine was considered to be quite humane at the time.

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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 09:05:05 PM »
I always thought the guillotine was developed because up to that time they had a guy that would take a very large axe to someone's neck and sometimes it was quite messy and not kill the executionee outright. If I remember correctly, the guillotine was considered to be quite humane at the time.

Too lazy to look it up.

Do you know that it took three strikes to totally decapitate Queen Mary of the Scots?? Apparently, the axeman was very inexperienced.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 09:12:16 PM »
Do you know that it took three strikes to totally decapitate Queen Mary of the Scots?? Apparently, the axeman was very inexperienced.

That's why Henry VIII, who loathed and detested his second wife Anne Boleyn, had an executioner especially imported from France to take off her head.

He loathed and detested her, but he didn't want a big mess to be made.

Decapitation by sword, one stroke.

As easy and quick as strawberries-and-cream, using the sword instead of the axe.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 09:13:12 PM »
Do you know that it took three strikes to totally decapitate Queen Mary of the Scots?? Apparently, the axeman was very inexperienced.

No I didn't... or maybe I did and forgot. I just seemed to remember something about messy executions back in history class.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 09:17:26 PM »
I remember the Addams Family had a little one in their kitchen in order to slice carrots. 

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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 09:18:55 PM »
No I didn't... or maybe I did and forgot. I just seemed to remember something about messy executions back in history class.

What was especially messy was when the axeman mis-thrust, and cut above the neck (around the jaw or chin) or into the shoulders instead.

It wasn't ever pretty.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 09:26:22 PM »
That's why Henry VIII, who loathed and detested his second wife Anne Boleyn, had an executioner especially imported from France to take off her head.

He loathed and detested her, but he didn't want a big mess to be made.

Decapitation by sword, one stroke.

As easy and quick as strawberries-and-cream, using the sword instead of the axe.
Well depending on what book or movie you are aquainted with, seceretly loved her the most?? He wanted an heir so badly, and the irony was Elizabeth Tudor rued in her own right without a husband or a consort by her side...
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2012, 09:27:16 PM »
What was especially messy was when the axeman mis-thrust, and cut above the neck (around the jaw or chin) or into the shoulders instead.

It wasn't ever pretty.

I seem to recall reading in a book years ago... don't hold me to accuracy of this as it may have been fiction... that it was customary for the family of the condemned to give a payment to the executioner to make sure his axe was sharp and his aim was true. Like I said... it may have been fiction.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2012, 09:27:37 PM »
Well depending on what book or movie you are aquainted with, seceretly loved her the most?? He wanted an heir so badly, and the irony was Elizabeth Tudor rued in her own right without a husband or a consort by her side...

True, but that was all after the fact.

In 1536, it didn't look good.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2012, 09:28:10 PM »
Actually it was a misunderstanding, by beheading they meant castration of socialist ideologists, or that's just how I imagine it. Most of them are already eunuchs to begin with.

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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2012, 09:29:32 PM »
I seem to recall reading in a book years ago... don't hold me to accuracy of this as it may have been fiction... that it was customary for the family of the condemned to give a payment to the executioner to make sure his axe was sharp and his aim was true. Like I said... it may have been fiction.

No, that wasn't fiction, but it was a little bit different than that.

The family of the condemned, if they cared and if they had the means, paid to have a professional axeman do the job, rather than a cheaper amateur axeman.

Being a decapitator wasn't a minimum-wage job.  

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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2012, 09:32:49 PM »
No, that wasn't fiction, but it was a little bit different than that.

The family of the condemned, if they cared and if they had the means, paid to have a professional axeman do the job, rather than a cheaper amateur axeman.

Being a decapitator wasn't a minimum-wage job.  


and they always asked the condemned for forgiveness...
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2012, 09:39:15 PM »
No, that wasn't fiction, but it was a little bit different than that.

The family of the condemned, if they cared and if they had the means, paid to have a professional axeman do the job, rather than a cheaper amateur axeman.

Being a decapitator wasn't a minimum-wage job.  



OK Frank. That makes sense. Thanks!!  :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2012, 11:14:03 PM »
The DUmmies are something else, when a cop killer gets a lethal injection they cry their eyes out for days, yet they want to pull out the guillotine and behead people for the crime of being rich.  :mental:
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM »
I was under the impression the executioner operated under threat of the same fate if he bungled his job.
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2012, 02:46:08 AM »
The DUmmies are something else, when a cop killer gets a lethal injection they cry their eyes out for days, yet they want to pull out the guillotine and behead people for the crime of being rich.  :mental:

It's not really that crazy when you think about it. Most of the time the executed (or condemned to be executed) person is wicked. The DUmmies see a reflection of themselves in that person.

In most cases the rich person has worked to acquire or retain his or her wealth. The notion of work is a loathsome and often times completely foreign concept to DUmmies so they have nothing in common with the rich person.

They sympathize and feel compassion toward the ones most like them.
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Re: Why was the guillotine invented? --Kentuck
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2012, 05:19:54 AM »
It's not really that crazy when you think about it. Most of the time the executed (or condemned to be executed) person is wicked. The DUmmies see a reflection of themselves in that person.

In most cases the rich person has worked to acquire or retain his or her wealth. The notion of work is a loathsome and often times completely foreign concept to DUmmies so they have nothing in common with the rich person.

They sympathize and feel compassion toward the ones most like them.

Damn, Chuck, that's awesome.  H5.
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