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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2012, 08:39:04 PM »
That's ok, your post is just above mine and can be judged just as it is.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2012, 09:13:44 PM »
Either you beieve in God or you don't.. You can't believe in God when it's damn convenient for you..

Case in point: Myself, Sparky, Scooby, FL,  knew this woman from another forum who claimed she was an atheist, yet she celebrated Christmas, or excuse me "the holidays"... The first part of that word is "holi", which in IMO, you believe in a celestial being, that guide us  thru life.
I see that too much among libs and democrats, that deny Christainaity, yet are the first to storm out on Good Friday, to get the "deals" :hammer:
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2012, 04:22:00 AM »
Atheist are that until REAL hardship hits them! Real hunger, real cold or real fear where there comes no relief! You either pray or "wish" the pain would stop. If you disagree with that you have never beer there! The day may come and when it does you will no longer be an atheist.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2012, 04:42:43 AM »
In order to believe, or even suspect, there is no God, you must believe that the world was so different at some point in the past that life could arise from dead material with no supernatural assistance.  You must believe that the most impressive memory material ever dreamed just "happened."  You must believe that life "found a way" to invent asexual and then sexual reproduction.  You must believe the extremely intricate, extremely delicate cell came to be in a purely natural manner.  You must believe that, despite all our current evidence on mutations, for most of the past, they were largely beneficial.  I don't have enough faith in mankind's knowledge to believe any of that.

On the other hand, all those miraculous events are far more believable when we admit that they were miracles.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2012, 07:36:54 AM »
I never said there was evidence for a God, or even a deity's existence for that matter. I said there is a possibility. I also never said there would never be everlasting life. I said there could be a supernatural being. Chances? No one knows, and I myself don't know either, but as of right now there is no evidence proving a God or God-like being could or does exist so I'm going to say there is no God until I am met with some concrete and peer-reviewed evidence proving I am wrong.

Sorry.  There is a God.  Everytime I look at my last two children I know there is a God.  I have a 9 year age gap between my oldest and middle child. Why?  because I was infertile and had miscarriage after miscarriage.  I was told by my dr that I would never carry a kid again and give up.  I prayed, my son prayed with me and you know what?  I became pregnant and carried not one but two children.  I didn't get that until I actually gave up all the science and prayed to my God. 

I feel sorry for you and that is not to mean anything mean or snarky.  You have not known pure joy until you have his presence in your heart.  It's mindblowing to feel him all around you.






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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2012, 07:47:25 AM »

You know, when the incorrigible pious old hypocrite Bertrand Lord Russell was dying, someone asked him what he'd do if he found out that God in fact existed, given that he'd denied it all his adult life.

"Oh, but if God would've given me more proof, I would've believed," the senescent old frog complained.

Which showed an abysmal misunderstanding of God, and whether or not God exists.

God gave us the gift of free will, to determine reality on our own.

If God had provided infallible unquestionable evidence that God existed, that would've deprived man of free will to determine the reality of things on his own.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2012, 12:19:30 PM »
If you cannot look upon things such as this:








and not thank God for being here and now to appreciate it, your life will be very empty.


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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2012, 12:23:58 PM »
Romans 1:20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2012, 03:07:09 PM »
Sorry.  There is a God.  Everytime I look at my last two children I know there is a God.  I have a 9 year age gap between my oldest and middle child. Why?  because I was infertile and had miscarriage after miscarriage.  I was told by my dr that I would never carry a kid again and give up.  I prayed, my son prayed with me and you know what?  I became pregnant and carried not one but two children.  I didn't get that until I actually gave up all the science and prayed to my God. 

I feel sorry for you and that is not to mean anything mean or snarky.  You have not known pure joy until you have his presence in your heart.  It's mindblowing to feel him all around you.

Convincing, but I am not one to be the authority in whether or not he exists, and there is no proof of his existence. Even if God did help you, your miracle is a single case, I'd need to see this happen constantly and have my peers who are educated on the subjects look at it themselves.

If you cannot look upon things such as this:








and not thank God for being here and now to appreciate it, your life will be very empty.




Plate tectonics, sun's path, and the rotation of the earth made those things possible. I do not see evidence of God playing a part in the creation of such beautiful landscapes.

In order to believe, or even suspect, there is no God, you must believe that the world was so different at some point in the past that life could arise from dead material with no supernatural assistance.  You must believe that the most impressive memory material ever dreamed just "happened."  You must believe that life "found a way" to invent asexual and then sexual reproduction.  You must believe the extremely intricate, extremely delicate cell came to be in a purely natural manner.  You must believe that, despite all our current evidence on mutations, for most of the past, they were largely beneficial. I don't have enough faith in mankind's knowledge to believe any of that.

On the other hand, all those miraculous events are far more believable when we admit that they were miracles.

I believe you are talking about evolution, yes? Anyway, mutations are not all beneficial. The mutations that have carried on are beneficial however. Survival of the fittest, the fittest species shall survive and thrive. So members of a species with a beneficial mutation will reproduce much more often than those without the mutation or with a negative mutation.

Atheist are that until REAL hardship hits them! Real hunger, real cold or real fear where there comes no relief! You either pray or "wish" the pain would stop. If you disagree with that you have never beer there! The day may come and when it does you will no longer be an atheist.

Of course people are going to wish that hardships never fall upon their lap, and will hope to get out of them if they do. All humans do that, and it's not just men who believe in a deity that get out of those hardships. It differs from case to case if they turn to religion to have hope, I myself don't look up to the image of a heaven or a Godly figure but instead find the courage within myself to carry on.

Either you beieve in God or you don't.. You can't believe in God when it's damn convenient for you..

Case in point: Myself, Sparky, Scooby, FL,  knew this woman from another forum who claimed she was an atheist, yet she celebrated Christmas, or excuse me "the holidays"... The first part of that word is "holi", which in IMO, you believe in a celestial being, that guide us  thru life.
I see that too much among libs and democrats, that deny Christainaity, yet are the first to storm out on Good Friday, to get the "deals" :hammer:

Every group of people will have their hypocrites. I myself do as well but this is more of a being joyous, loving life, and being with family kind of holiday. I agree with you with atheist liberals and democrats, it's annoying to deal with those people, whether they're godless or not.

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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2012, 04:31:56 PM »
You haven't been there yet.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2012, 05:45:46 PM »
You haven't been there yet.

Really? Please, tell me of your epic stories of hardships and struggles.

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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2012, 06:32:33 PM »
I've been hungry. Really hungry and I've been cold, really cold. Never was really in fear. You? Perhaps fear of nonexistence?
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"Liberalism is an essentially feminine, submissive world view. Perhaps a better adjective than feminine is infantile. It is the world view of men who do not have the moral toughness, the spiritual strength to stand up and do single combat with life, who cannot adjust to the reality that the world is not a huge, pink-and-blue, padded nursery in which the lions lie down with the lambs and everyone lives happily ever after."


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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2012, 10:19:06 PM »
Really? Please, tell me of your epic stories of hardships and struggles.
I am going to tell you a true story about myself. I went to a Catholic School, and I wasn't Catholic. The nuns made God sound mean, hell and brimstone. When I was about 12 years old, I was condemned to hell, by a nun, because I wasn't Catholic, and didn't take the sacraments. I didn't believe that God was like that, but whatever... I was very insecure in HS (which was public) and turned away from God, though I retained the information from the Bible.  I had a beautiful Bible I recieved when I became aa American Citizen in 1976. I put that Bible away for many years. From the day I put that bible away in 1984, my life went down the tubes. No self esteem and no self confidence. My marriage only lasted 7 years, where I lived in literal poverty and an abusive husband. I never set foot in a Church, unless it was for a wedding or a funeral...

After meeting all the wonderful people on this forum, Eupher, Franksolitch, Gina, BigDog, Cats. Mrs Smith, etc.. I finally saw the light and started going back to Church. I found that dusty Bible when I was rummaging for stuff at my Mum's. I took it home and put it on my Hope chest...between my  beloved Mallard Duck BookEnds.  You know, my life is so much richer for it...You cannot tell me there is no God!!!
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2012, 05:10:41 AM »
Really? Please, tell me of your epic stories of hardships and struggles.

I wouldn't call them "hardships and struggles," but my father died when I was 17, my mother when I was 18, and my younger brother when I was 19; the three most important people in my life over a 31-month period.

I had six older brothers and sisters (my younger brother and I were late children, coming when our parents were in middle age), all of whom are now dead, long before they lived out their three-score and seven; I wasn't close to them (although got along okay with them, formally), as they'd turned out Democrats, liberals, and primitives, going against nearly everything in which I believe.  They were proof that "better living through chemistry" is bullshit, dying between the ages of 40 and 59, all of them bloated up by pharmaceuticals.

I was born deaf, absent ears.  The effects of accutane.

Even with a college degree, a solid work history, and a wonderful reputation, it's harder than Hell for a deaf person to be gainfully employed, and if employed, it's a string of dead-end jobs.

However.

I don't consider myself having been unlucky, or mistreated by life.

In fact, I think I've been treated rather well.

As far as I can tell, my nonchalant, don't-take-it-seriously, happy-go-lucky attitude is because I know God is, and that God in the end takes care of all.  I don't merely "believe" in God; I know God is, and there's not a damned thing anybody can do about it.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2012, 05:57:57 AM »
I believe you are talking about evolution, yes? Anyway, mutations are not all beneficial. The mutations that have carried on are beneficial however. Survival of the fittest, the fittest species shall survive and thrive. So members of a species with a beneficial mutation will reproduce much more often than those without the mutation or with a negative mutation.


Thank you for clearly demonstrating how people remain atheists...by ignoring the majority of the evidence against the possibility that He does not exist. 
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2012, 07:43:18 AM »
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Plate tectonics, sun's path, and the rotation of the earth made those things possible. I do not see evidence of God playing a part in the creation of such beautiful landscapes.

One cloud of atoms "observes" another cloud of atoms and calls it "beautiful."

What is the chemical composition of sentiment?
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2012, 08:08:48 AM »
The Bible talks about things that man has argued about for years. Like snakes having legs. Scientists today believe that snakes at one time walked, and yet in Genesis 3 God curses them and makes them crawl on their bellies.
    Also in the Bible it talks about the world being round. How long has the world thought of the world being flat? Up yo the 1400s? Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"
    Also the Bible talks about the Hittites, an empire that was lost since the old testament. They were found over a hundred years ago, but before that no one believed they existed, but they found the names of the kings mentioned in the Bible.
    Bible also talks about the Arab nations, through Ishmael Abraham's son. How they will be many, they will fight with each other and they will be hated by all the world. Nebuchadnezzar has a dream about a statue made of different materials. The statue represents all the kingdoms that will rule the world. The last part of the statue is the toes of iron and clay. They don't mix, they fight with each other. Look at the middle east, they fight with each other. Bible also says Ishmael's descendents(Arabs) will hate Isaac's descendents(Israel), but in the end times the Arab nations will unite under one leader. Look at Egypt today, President Mursi is trying to rally the Islamists. It is prophecy in the works.

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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2012, 01:24:24 PM »
Ever have an enlightenment moment when on says in awe,  God does exist ?. Or a exaltation that  " There is a God" ???

Prayer circles are a good way to start, ever join in one for a hopeless case and for some reason the medical comunity cannot explain the prayed for recovered ???

On to those lost at sea or on land, all hope of rescue is lost until out of the clear blue a searcher for no known to their reason decides to go off grid and finds the lost.  Why did this happen, what directed the searchers to the place they found the lost ???

Who is it that whisperers in the ear of a person sleeping to not get on that boat, airplane or even go to work that day.

Who is it that gets into the mind of a woman --we call it woman's 6 th sense-- that causes woman to some how sense evil or get those strange feeling about others.   Who is it to tell others that they need to call home right now ???

We have God all around us but only pay attention when we have had a close call.



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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2012, 12:27:52 AM »
I've been hungry. Really hungry and I've been cold, really cold. Never was really in fear. You? Perhaps fear of nonexistence?

I don't have a fear of non-existence honestly. I know I'm going to die, and that I'm going to rot in the ground. I'm not sure what happens afterwards, no one knows for sure, but what I can say is that if I die and if there is a God I shall say "Sorry" and hope he doesn't think I'm Canadian.

I am going to tell you a true story about myself. I went to a Catholic School, and I wasn't Catholic. The nuns made God sound mean, hell and brimstone. When I was about 12 years old, I was condemned to hell, by a nun, because I wasn't Catholic, and didn't take the sacraments. I didn't believe that God was like that, but whatever... I was very insecure in HS (which was public) and turned away from God, though I retained the information from the Bible.  I had a beautiful Bible I recieved when I became aa American Citizen in 1976. I put that Bible away for many years. From the day I put that bible away in 1984, my life went down the tubes. No self esteem and no self confidence. My marriage only lasted 7 years, where I lived in literal poverty and an abusive husband. I never set foot in a Church, unless it was for a wedding or a funeral...

After meeting all the wonderful people on this forum, Eupher, Franksolitch, Gina, BigDog, Cats. Mrs Smith, etc.. I finally saw the light and started going back to Church. I found that dusty Bible when I was rummaging for stuff at my Mum's. I took it home and put it on my Hope chest...between my  beloved Mallard Duck BookEnds.  You know, my life is so much richer for it...You cannot tell me there is no God!!!

I'm not here to tell you there is no God. I'm just defending my personal beliefs. I'm glad you're living a better life!

I wouldn't call them "hardships and struggles," but my father died when I was 17, my mother when I was 18, and my younger brother when I was 19; the three most important people in my life over a 31-month period.

I had six older brothers and sisters (my younger brother and I were late children, coming when our parents were in middle age), all of whom are now dead, long before they lived out their three-score and seven; I wasn't close to them (although got along okay with them, formally), as they'd turned out Democrats, liberals, and primitives, going against nearly everything in which I believe.  They were proof that "better living through chemistry" is bullshit, dying between the ages of 40 and 59, all of them bloated up by pharmaceuticals.

I was born deaf, absent ears.  The effects of accutane.

Even with a college degree, a solid work history, and a wonderful reputation, it's harder than Hell for a deaf person to be gainfully employed, and if employed, it's a string of dead-end jobs.

However.

I don't consider myself having been unlucky, or mistreated by life.

In fact, I think I've been treated rather well.

As far as I can tell, my nonchalant, don't-take-it-seriously, happy-go-lucky attitude is because I know God is, and that God in the end takes care of all.  I don't merely "believe" in God; I know God is, and there's not a damned thing anybody can do about it.

Damn. I'm sorry for your loss. Again, I'm not here to indoctrinate you or try and convert you like atheists (especially on internet forums like Reddit) will try and do. I'm just defending my beliefs in a civil debate.

Thank you for clearly demonstrating how people remain atheists...by ignoring the majority of the evidence against the possibility that He does not exist. 

Please tell me evidence that proves that a God or any deity or god-like being can exist. I'm actually not too familiar with the evidence proving God's existence.

The Bible talks about things that man has argued about for years. Like snakes having legs. Scientists today believe that snakes at one time walked, and yet in Genesis 3 God curses them and makes them crawl on their bellies.
    Also in the Bible it talks about the world being round. How long has the world thought of the world being flat? Up yo the 1400s? Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"
    Also the Bible talks about the Hittites, an empire that was lost since the old testament. They were found over a hundred years ago, but before that no one believed they existed, but they found the names of the kings mentioned in the Bible.
    Bible also talks about the Arab nations, through Ishmael Abraham's son. How they will be many, they will fight with each other and they will be hated by all the world. Nebuchadnezzar has a dream about a statue made of different materials. The statue represents all the kingdoms that will rule the world. The last part of the statue is the toes of iron and clay. They don't mix, they fight with each other. Look at the middle east, they fight with each other. Bible also says Ishmael's descendents(Arabs) will hate Isaac's descendents(Israel), but in the end times the Arab nations will unite under one leader. Look at Egypt today, President Mursi is trying to rally the Islamists. It is prophecy in the works.

Overall, I cannot debate with what you say about Bible quotes and passages since I am not exactly an expert at the scripture, but I can definitely tell the one talking about snakes is not accurate. Why are there creatures who are cosmetically similar to snakes, such as the salamander, that has legs? Could it be that they came from a common ancestor of some sort? Again, not saying it isn't true, but that it may be not true as well. There's no way to tell if God actually said that other than reading words in the Bible and I'd need some real concrete evidence to decide for myself if God said it, or if He or a god-like being even exists.

Ever have an enlightenment moment when on says in awe,  God does exist ?. Or a exaltation that  " There is a God" ???

Prayer circles are a good way to start, ever join in one for a hopeless case and for some reason the medical comunity cannot explain the prayed for recovered ???

On to those lost at sea or on land, all hope of rescue is lost until out of the clear blue a searcher for no known to their reason decides to go off grid and finds the lost.  Why did this happen, what directed the searchers to the place they found the lost ???

Who is it that whisperers in the ear of a person sleeping to not get on that boat, airplane or even go to work that day.

Who is it that gets into the mind of a woman --we call it woman's 6 th sense-- that causes woman to some how sense evil or get those strange feeling about others.   Who is it to tell others that they need to call home right now ???

We have God all around us but only pay attention when we have had a close call.




These are isolated cases, how do you know that the reasons they did what they do is because they have random thoughts or just want to do it? How do you know it's not similar to you deciding "You know what I'm going to eat a burger from place B rather than place A today." I'm not saying God didn't do it, it's just that humans do this kind of thing all the time.

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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2012, 06:20:05 AM »
So you don't look down your nose at us who believe. That's a good trait. Personally I don't care what anybody believes or don't believe. I still believe that when faced with real death such as being huddled in a foxhole with bullets sizzling over your head and knowing there is nothing between you and the enemy you will pray! Just my belief. If you say you wont, OK you wont. I don't care.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2012, 07:47:51 AM »

Please tell me evidence that proves that a God or any deity or god-like being can exist. I'm actually not too familiar with the evidence proving God's existence.


Let's start with the Bible, His Word given to us for understanding.  It begins with a description of something that matches the scientific idea of a Big Bang.  That portion of the Bible was written by a man that was educated in Egypt.  He grew up learning about all the Egyptian gods, like the sun god.  Yet he wrote that light existed before any sun.  Not exactly the kind of idea a man would dream up, right?

Others have mentioned portions of biblical history that are gradually being proved true through archeology and anthropology.  There is a book titled, "The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict," by Josh McDowell, over 800 pages of proofs about biblical accuracy.

Then lets look at a few modern things, like drug and prison rehabilitation programs. There is one common thread in all the programs that actually work, those with the lowest recidivism rates, and that is those programs are based on supernatural help. Either they are directly Christian, or they are based on His help as in 12 step programs.

And of course, there are billions of people worldwide that can testify to meeting Christ and accepting His gift of salvation.

And lastly, there is the little list I originally posted of some of the most glaring problems with the idea that life could have developed in a natural manner.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2012, 10:25:56 AM »
So you don't look down your nose at us who believe. That's a good trait. Personally I don't care what anybody believes or don't believe. I still believe that when faced with real death such as being huddled in a foxhole with bullets sizzling over your head and knowing there is nothing between you and the enemy you will pray! Just my belief. If you say you wont, OK you wont. I don't care.

I honestly don't care what anyone believes either, and for the foxhole thing. Yes, you're going to hope, and you're going to pray to some extent, but that does not mean that God is a real entity and it may just be a way to give you hope.

Let's start with the Bible, His Word given to us for understanding.  It begins with a description of something that matches the scientific idea of a Big Bang.  That portion of the Bible was written by a man that was educated in Egypt.  He grew up learning about all the Egyptian gods, like the sun god.  Yet he wrote that light existed before any sun.  Not exactly the kind of idea a man would dream up, right?

Others have mentioned portions of biblical history that are gradually being proved true through archeology and anthropology.  There is a book titled, "The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict," by Josh McDowell, over 800 pages of proofs about biblical accuracy.

Then lets look at a few modern things, like drug and prison rehabilitation programs. There is one common thread in all the programs that actually work, those with the lowest recidivism rates, and that is those programs are based on supernatural help. Either they are directly Christian, or they are based on His help as in 12 step programs.

And of course, there are billions of people worldwide that can testify to meeting Christ and accepting His gift of salvation.

And lastly, there is the little list I originally posted of some of the most glaring problems with the idea that life could have developed in a natural manner.

Okay. I'll look into the evidence supporting the theory of the Christian Bible being correct.

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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2012, 02:01:31 PM »
I honestly don't care what anyone believes either, and for the foxhole thing. Yes, you're going to hope, and you're going to pray to some extent, but that does not mean that God is a real entity and it may just be a way to give you hope.

Okay. I'll look into the evidence supporting the theory of the Christian Bible being correct.
Lee Strobel has also written some good evidence-type books.
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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2013, 02:52:45 AM »
Gosh I am certainly late to all of this fun but .. may I say a few things?

Thank You .. Don't mind if I do! :rofl:

I have never seen and can offer no 'proof' (that I can show anyone) that God exists.

And I can also say that I have never seen a tornado 'ripping' through a salvage yard and on it's way out .. build itself a shiny new corvette!

I 'can' tell you which scenario .. is more likely!
(Hint: It ain't the tornado building me a corvette one)

Intelligence shows order whereas non-intelligence can only bring disorder.
(God, Tornado)

I had a philosophy professor that did his best to confuse a subject such as the one here.

 He would spend forty five minutes of a thirty minute class on similar 'philosophies' that until this day .. cannot be proven one way or another.

 I find it amusing that even though a scientist (or professor) can never say that he has seen a house erect itself (from nothing) can .. at the same time say that the Universe and Life, which is Much More than a house, could and did create itself .. from nothing!

 It may sound quite logical to you but to me .. not so much!

And if I am wrong .. we (and the atheists) come to the same dead end but .. What if I am right? :naughty:
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It is difficult only for the others.

It is the same when you are stupid."

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Re: Is non-existence terrifying to you?
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2013, 06:22:39 AM »
"Is non-existence terrifying to you?"

Nope. I could use a break!
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