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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #75 on: May 10, 2012, 08:59:56 PM »
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2012, 09:12:06 AM »
Billy_Bob, in reference to your post here, I asked you what do we do.  It's all fine and good to post a mountain of data and speculation, but it all comes down to "okay, what do we do?". 

Second, I asked why it is you continue to live in the initial kill zone of a super volcano if you have a deep suspicion that it is going to blow and end life as we know it.  Since I have been accused of having ulterior motives and trying to pry into your personal life, let me expand and give you some kind of idea why I ask this.

I live in an area that would be the #2 target (behind Washington DC) in the event of a nuclear strike.  If I were to be listening to my radio and hear the EMS broadcast that the balloon had gone up (ICBM launch), there would be precious little I could do to survive it.  Missile flight time from Russia, over the pole, is about 30 minutes; much less (around 15 minutes) for a launch from a SSBN.  At that point, it would make sense to hug and kiss my family, climb up on the roof and get a front row seat for the end my little area of the world.  Point being, I understand there is a bit of a fatalistic attitude when it comes to events of mass destruction that one can do nothing to alter or abolish.

However, if I had ample warning of such an event, I would be doing everything that I could to move my family as far away from that area and to a more safe one; one in which I could eventually join them.  That, in my opinion, would be the safe thing to do.  Trip and yourself have been sounding the alarm on Yellowstone for well over a year and it seems that the longer it goes, the less you seem to "hear" from anyone that may be able to pass you data and the more serious the situation seems to become.  It would seem that would be enough to get my family moving somewhere safer than where you are.

That, Billy_Bob, and nothing else is the basis for my question.  If you find your way back here, I would like to know why it is you continue to stay where you are with the knowledge you have.
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2012, 02:02:10 PM »
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MENACE UNREALIZED: After more than a week of solar storm warnings, sunspot AR1476 is turning away from Earth with a mostly unblemished record of quiet. The decaying behemoth never lived up to its potential as a source of X-class solar flares. It did, however, make a great target for astrophotographers. Even now the sunspot is decorating sunsets around the world:




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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2012, 02:08:11 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on May 15, 2012, 09:12:06 AM
Billy_Bob, in reference to your post here, I asked you what do we do.  It's all fine and good to post a mountain of data and speculation, but it all comes down to "okay, what do we do?". 

Second, I asked why it is you continue to live in the initial kill zone of a super volcano if you have a deep suspicion that it is going to blow and end life as we know it.  Since I have been accused of having ulterior motives and trying to pry into your personal life, let me expand and give you some kind of idea why I ask this.

I live in an area that would be the #2 target (behind Washington DC) in the event of a nuclear strike.  If I were to be listening to my radio and hear the EMS broadcast that the balloon had gone up (ICBM launch), there would be precious little I could do to survive it.  Missile flight time from Russia, over the pole, is about 30 minutes; much less (around 15 minutes) for a launch from a SSBN.  At that point, it would make sense to hug and kiss my family, climb up on the roof and get a front row seat for the end my little area of the world.  Point being, I understand there is a bit of a fatalistic attitude when it comes to events of mass destruction that one can do nothing to alter or abolish.

However, if I had ample warning of such an event, I would be doing everything that I could to move my family as far away from that area and to a more safe one; one in which I could eventually join them.  That, in my opinion, would be the safe thing to do.  Trip and yourself have been sounding the alarm on Yellowstone for well over a year and it seems that the longer it goes, the less you seem to "hear" from anyone that may be able to pass you data and the more serious the situation seems to become.  It would seem that would be enough to get my family moving somewhere safer than where you are.

That, Billy_Bob, and nothing else is the basis for my question.  If you find your way back here, I would like to know why it is you continue to stay where you are with the knowledge you have.

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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #79 on: May 16, 2012, 02:53:21 PM »
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2012, 05:07:47 AM »
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2012, 12:55:27 PM »
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  • SUBSIDING STORM: A radiation storm around Earth is subsiding. The storm began during the early hours of May 17th when a strong M5-class flre accelerated a fusillade of solar protons in our direction. At its peak, the S2-class storm was capable of confusing spacecraft imaging systems and causing 'single event upsets' in orbiting electronics.

    The explosion tthat caused the radiation storm also hurled a coronal mass ejection (CME) into space. SOHO recorded the cloud racing away from the sun faster than 1500 km/s:



    The speckles in the movie are caused by energetic protons hitting the observatory's detector. This kind of "snow" is a sign that a radiation storm is underway.

    This CME is not heading for Earth. It will, however, deliver a glancing blow to Mercury. According to a forecast track prepared by analysts at the Goddard Space Weather Lab, the cloud will reach the innermost planet on May 17th at 15:09 UT (+/- 7 hr).

http://www.spaceweather.com/

And it didn't even release an x-class flare.


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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #82 on: May 20, 2012, 07:49:14 AM »
I find it incomprehensible that any single object could have more than two magnetic poles. It seems to go against all things Physics. All of this seems like a LOT of hype to me. While I may not possess any papered degrees, I have 37+ years of hands on experience in electricity/ electronics. It could actually be more were I to use the dates when I first started working with electronics. But, in my earlier years, I didn't have the textbook education/ formal schooling which I do now.

[tin foil hat] Maybe a massive CME will happen on Dec 21st of this year? [/tin foil hat]   :rotf: :rotf: :tongue:

As far as Yellowstone, the "kill zone" is massive and would affect a good majority of the US. It's after-effects would probably throw us into another ice-age.
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #83 on: May 20, 2012, 10:27:48 AM »
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2012, 06:49:53 AM »
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2012, 07:17:10 AM »
Questions from a very confused old lady.

We all play with maginetes as kids and learn putting in batterys what end to place in first the + or -.

Oppisits attract they say, so would anything  with 4 different poles just implode or explode if the ends do not match ??

Now how on earth can any object spinning about causing graverty change poles ?

I can understand how a huge metor strike can cause the earth to tilt and a climate change.   

What I do not understand is why on a coupas we have 2 norths, the magnitic north and the off a few degrees the compas setting.

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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2012, 09:00:11 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on July 23, 2012, 07:17:10 AM
Questions from a very confused old lady.

We all play with maginetes as kids and learn putting in batterys what end to place in first the + or -.

Oppisits attract they say, so would anything  with 4 different poles just implode or explode if the ends do not match ??

Now how on earth can any object spinning about causing graverty change poles ?

I can understand how a huge metor strike can cause the earth to tilt and a climate change.   

What I do not understand is why on a coupas we have 2 norths, the magnitic north and the off a few degrees the compas setting.


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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #87 on: July 23, 2012, 09:07:39 AM »
I want to meet the dude that's going to dig the holes for those 4 poles.
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2012, 10:12:46 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on July 23, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I want to meet the dude that's going to dig the holes for those 4 poles.
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2012, 11:46:37 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on July 23, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
I want to meet the dude that's going to dig the holes for those 4 poles.
One pole site is said to be in Poland.
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2012, 03:30:17 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on July 23, 2012, 09:00:11 AM
Been smokin' crack again, vesta? Either that or your bra is too tight. Loosen it a bit so you can get some air.

Sorry I do type fast and with arthritis I do tend to hit the wrong keys quite often.  When spell check goes down as it does often I just say frog it and post anyway.

So how would 4 poles of magnetism affect the sun???  Is not the sun made of gas, sort of like how can magnetism effect a burning candle ????   Too bad Watch Mr. Wizard is off the air.

In answer to the question of why anyone would live in a dangerous area-------Tell me why early settlers set out with woman and children to head West even as news came of massacres of others doing the same thing.

To me it is the natural disasters that get people, these droughts out West of me, who can prepare for them ??

Climate Change, silly people naturally there will be some doozies, most take thousands of years to evolve but when Krakatoa went up, the dust in the sky gave this area a couple of years with no summer. My great grandmother told me about her mother who told her.

Back on topic, magnetism fascinates people, we spend millions of bucks to buy beds and jewelry with magnets in them for health reasons------Scam artists will take us every time.   

Magnetic resonances or some such idea that humans and animals have a magnetic Aurea. So claimed Yuri Geller.     

So still want to know what is the difference between magnetic north and compas north by degrees.

BTY, what is a load stone and how did it years ago help navigation ???
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Re: Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
« Reply #91 on: July 23, 2012, 09:24:10 PM »
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