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Having faith in God
« on: April 15, 2012, 09:33:33 PM »
Do you believe that people who have a stronger faith in God do better in life rather  than people who have little or no faith?
Case in point: I have a co-worker who lost a few friends and has a hard time getting jobs, etc. I said to her join or become a member of a church or another social group. She replied I don't believe in God...

I believe in God strongly, though I don't go to church, because I work Sundays, but I would. I have done well in life, because in my heart, God is there for me...
I feel God made us, then he would be our biggest support system. The love for God comes from within and shows from our actions towards others...
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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2012, 09:42:42 PM »
Faith in the way you refer to it brings to mind vocations. Dentistry has the highest suicide rate. Of all the vocations sales does the best in a lot of categories. Lowest suicide rate, longest marriages, most job and life satisfaction. It comes from their ability to have hope and faith, and a positive outlook.
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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 11:01:11 AM »
Faith in the way you refer to it brings to mind vocations. Dentistry has the highest suicide rate. Of all the vocations sales does the best in a lot of categories. Lowest suicide rate, longest marriages, most job and life satisfaction. It comes from their ability to have hope and faith, and a positive outlook.

It is by no accident that we Christians and Jews pray to  " OUR FATHER "

HE is the perfect father we all need and want. 

So if our earthly father is not so great, we still know we have one that is perfect even if at times HE seems a bit cruel and totally heartless.    We know that our heavenly father has his reasons and after a time  we will begin to understand the why of what happens in life.

Those with no belief in a Monotheistic God, what ever they call Him in their language have just given up on their own humanity, the things that separate us from frogs and earth worms.   

Don't let me get started on the soul, I believe my DOG has a soul as he loves me and protects me, will give up his life for me.

Faith in God is a protection for people to expand their lives with out fear of being alone in a lonely world. We are not here on this big blue ball by chance, God and evolution go together, 7 days in our time may be a few million years to God.

There has to be a Force out there we do not understand, humans may never understand, we sometimes call the Force Mother Nature on earth, out in space there is no name for the remarkable things happening.

Some seek God and never find HIM, others that have no interest in HIM run full tilt into HIM in most unexpected ways.

Not to fear , few who live to be a ripe old age have no Faith in God, they have lived long enough to see the RESULTS of his actions and work. 









 

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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 11:11:56 AM »
I find that people who have a strong faith in God are happier, more pleasant to be around, and seem to live better. That could be the reason why they live longer, have longer marriages and have more friends. They don't let the simple stuff get them down and when something goes bad they can handle it better. It makes me glad I am one who strongly believes in God and pray to him multiple times a day.

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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 11:17:35 AM »
Do I believe that people who have a stronger faith in God do better in life rather  than people who have little or no faith?

Yes.

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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?

I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.

He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.

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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 08:47:19 PM »
Faith can work for you or against you. I chose the faith working for me choice.
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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 11:23:41 AM »
Faith can work for you or against you. I chose the faith working for me choice.

What one may perceive as working against them may be in fact for their betterment now or later on down the road, one just needs to have faith.
It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.

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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 02:15:38 PM »
Overall, I think adhering to Christian ethics gives us a more "successful" "healthy" life. 

That said, it can get you killed.  You can lose your job, lose your family, get tortured, lose your friends, have to mortify sins you really enjoy. . .

so don't trust in Christ to make your life more self indulgent.  He didn't promise you heaven on earth.  He promised you heaven. 

I do think, if we are truly trusting in Him, we have a peace that passes all understanding, and we learn to be content in all circumstances.

"Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content."  Philippians 4:11

"And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."  Phillippians 4:7

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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 08:10:39 AM »
People tend to take a mechanical, mathematical view of matters of religion.

A + B = C

If this, then that.

Jesus never healed the same way twice. On one occassion he mixed spittle with mud. Another time he laid hands. Once he sent a man away say the servant was already healed. One time he simply acknowledged he had been touched through no prompting of his own.

He never operated the same way twice because humans try to engineer everything in their world. If he ever resorted to A + B then men would lose The Real Point of it AllTM and simply occupy their times engaging in A + B.

Witness: shamans and the Pharisees

"If the entrails fall thusly, then such will be the coming harvest."

"If my phylactery is wider than I will gain greater recognition."

If the Bible is true you weren't meant for such pettiness; you were meant for a divine station. You were meant to be children of deity Itself.

You threw that away saying, "If I eat this, then I will be as...

The Bible has been trying for millenium to break you of this habit.

It even tries to disabuse you of the notion that more faith equals more happiness.

Job was very faithful. It would be a lie to claim he was very happy.

When Jesus was at his most faithful (Eloi! Eloi!) he was also at his most miserable (l'ama sabachthani).




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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 03:46:29 PM »
I read a great book by Dr. Frederick K.C. Price titled "How Faith Works". The upstart is, the spiritual world controls the material world. And nothing happens in the material world wothout first being set into motion in the spiritual. Tapping into the spiritual world is the walk of faith.
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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 04:06:19 PM »
Faith can work for you or against you. I chose the faith working for me choice.

Keep doing that, bud; you're probably still in a tough spot.

I'm defiantly confident it's going to work out well in the end, though.
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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 04:08:33 PM »
Keep doing that, bud; you're probably still in a tough spot.

I'm defiantly confident it's going to work out well in the end, though.
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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 06:45:56 PM »
People tend to take a mechanical, mathematical view of matters of religion.

A + B = C

If this, then that.

Jesus never healed the same way twice. On one occassion he mixed spittle with mud. Another time he laid hands. Once he sent a man away say the servant was already healed. One time he simply acknowledged he had been touched through no prompting of his own.

He never operated the same way twice because humans try to engineer everything in their world. If he ever resorted to A + B then men would lose The Real Point of it AllTM and simply occupy their times engaging in A + B.

Witness: shamans and the Pharisees

"If the entrails fall thusly, then such will be the coming harvest."

"If my phylactery is wider than I will gain greater recognition."

If the Bible is true you weren't meant for such pettiness; you were meant for a divine station. You were meant to be children of deity Itself.

You threw that away saying, "If I eat this, then I will be as...

The Bible has been trying for millenium to break you of this habit.

It even tries to disabuse you of the notion that more faith equals more happiness.

Job was very faithful. It would be a lie to claim he was very happy.

When Jesus was at his most faithful (Eloi! Eloi!) he was also at his most miserable (l'ama sabachthani).




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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 10:19:50 AM »
Humans tend to learn through suffering, both our own and the suffering of others.  God did not spare His own Son, He will not spare His adopted children either.  He will, however, walk through the valley with us, and carry us when we can no longer walk ourselves.

MrsSmith , all creatures will face some kid of suffering in their lives. This to include the Lilly's of the field that are stompted on by uncaring people or animals.

Humans have a choice of how to handle it,  then there are humans like Saul who had no choice but to disobey god and save just one person he felt worthy and then face the wrath of God.  God gave Saul and all of us the right to self decisions in life.

However when Saul used that right, God brought down the hammer on him and his family.   Seems the right he gave us only goes as far as we do not obey HIM.  -----  

 Jesus came and brought a kinder side to God,   Yet he still followed the ways of HIS Father. Jesus spoke about the tradition of stoning a person for adultery, just once then went on his way.  

The visuals of Jesus storming a temple and singel handed driving out dozens of crooks and dead beats with their living on the line is odd, and really out of the  portrate of the man he was.    Jesus so pissed off he would do such a thing and not get beaten up by the sellers and money changers ????

Lots of things to think about, as a kid I had an old family bible that said the last words of Jesus was ---Father why have you forsaken me. ????

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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 12:44:02 PM »
Humans tend to learn through suffering, both our own and the suffering of others.  God did not spare His own Son, He will not spare His adopted children either.  He will, however, walk through the valley with us, and carry us when we can no longer walk ourselves.

Yes, I've read the embroideries to that effect that seem ubiquitous in American bathrooms.

When someone is closed about in all finality--when the valley seems a grave--and there is no hope of relief on this side of the shroud; there comes the true test.

I'm sure you agree.

The Christ-like example may be he was most miserable when he was most faithful but the corollary is that even though he was most miserable he was also most faithful. I don't think either aspect can be ignored; I pointed out the former only because it is so often "overshadowed" the luminance of the latter.
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Re: Having faith in God
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2012, 12:40:55 PM »
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One time he simply acknowledged he had been touched through no prompting of his own


That was/is the epitomy of faith.
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