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Possible Collapsed Pipe
« on: October 12, 2011, 04:38:26 PM »
So our kitchen sink has been draining slowly.  We don't have a garbage disposal and we have our own septic system.  My husband ran a snake through and that didn't fix it.  He says he has a feeling the pipe is collapsed in the foundation but he doesn't know for sure.  He thought it was a plug somewhere but he says he went 25' with the snake and it's still not draining properly.  It's not stopped up but it's very slow. 

We both heard a loud noise the other night, but honestly I do not remember it that well, but we both kind of looked at each other and asked what that noise was.  He thinks that may have been when the pipe collapsed, if it is collapsed. 

Does a collapsed pipe in the foundation make a loud noise when it collapses?  I imagine we are looking at big bucks to try to fix this problem.  I live in Central Texas and the drought has been severe so it wouldn't surprise me if the foundation is suffering because of it.  Our house is 14 years old. 

Anyone know anything about this sort of thing, or do you have any advice? 
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 04:44:58 PM »
Are there any other drains in the house that are running slowly?
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 04:45:18 PM »
Only the kitchen sink? Sometimes builders pipe the kitchen sink to a dry well to keep the soap and grease out of the septic. Sometimes dry wells fill up with gunk or collapse. Just a thought. Not likely a pipe thru what is most likely a cement foundation.
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 04:47:03 PM »
Quote from: catsmtrods on October 12, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
Only the kitchen sink? Sometimes builders pipe the kitchen sink to a dry well to keep the soap and grease out of the septic. Sometimes dry wells fill up with gunk or collapse. Just a thought. Not likely a pipe thru what is most likely a cement foundation.

Excellent point.
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 04:51:05 PM »
Quote from: catsmtrods on October 12, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
Only the kitchen sink? Sometimes builders pipe the kitchen sink to a dry well to keep the soap and grease out of the septic. Sometimes dry wells fill up with gunk or collapse. Just a thought. Not likely a pipe thru what is most likely a cement foundation.

In my state the kitchen sink and washing machine go into a seperate drainage/septic system. The grease trap could be clogged up or the vent pipe for kitchen plumbing may be stopped up.
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 04:54:00 PM »
Only the kitchen sink is slow.  Everything else drains just fine.  We've recently had the septic tank cleaned out and I did a lot of laundry today with no problems.  With the severe drought, my husband has been pumping the gray water tank and using that to water the lawn so I know that's not backed up. 
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 04:55:24 PM »
Quote from: catsmtrods on October 12, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
Only the kitchen sink? Sometimes builders pipe the kitchen sink to a dry well to keep the soap and grease out of the septic. Sometimes dry wells fill up with gunk or collapse. Just a thought. Not likely a pipe thru what is most likely a cement foundation.


Where would we find this dry well? 

I'm not very well informed when it comes to plumbing, as you might be able to tell. 
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 05:54:34 PM »
The pipe may have sheared due to the ground shift from this drought in the Southern Plains. My neighbor had the foundation shift so much that is caused a pipe to burst that ran from the main to his master bath.
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 06:13:27 PM »
I had the same problem years ago and I ended up calling a plumber who had it fixed in about 15 minutes.  He ran a loooong snake starting down through a vent pipe on the roof.  Didn't cost too much, I remember thinking that it was a bargain after all of the dinking around I went through trying to fix it myself.  All the same, no more dumping the Fry Daddy down the kitchen sink. :p
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 06:43:11 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on October 12, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
I had the same problem years ago and I ended up calling a plumber who had it fixed in about 15 minutes.  He ran a loooong snake starting down through a vent pipe on the roof.  Didn't cost too much, I remember thinking that it was a bargain after all of the dinking around I went through trying to fix it myself.  All the same, no more dumping the Fry Daddy down the kitchen sink. :p



That's interesting he went through a vent pipe on the roof.  My husband's going to try with a longer snake tonight so we'll see what happens.  I have a feeling we'll be calling a plumber tomorrow. 
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2011, 11:20:30 AM »
Quote from: Traveshamockery on October 12, 2011, 06:43:11 PM


That's interesting he went through a vent pipe on the roof.  My husband's going to try with a longer snake tonight so we'll see what happens.  I have a feeling we'll be calling a plumber tomorrow. 

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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2011, 01:46:51 PM »
If hubby can get under the house, have him just do a visual and see if there's a pinch-point, break or something like a wye that the snake coulden't get to.
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2011, 02:23:39 PM »
I think the problem will be resolved.  We had to have our septic sucked out once again and lo and behold, there is a third access to our septic system that we didn't know about.  The full septic system isn't the problem but he told me if we've gone 14 years without having to clean out the drains, then he doubts it is a collapsed pipe.  He's coming back tomorrow to do it professionally - for $125.00.  That we can handle. 

What complicates things, and probably why my husband couldn't clear it out himself, is because we have an "island sink" so it's not against an outside wall.  He told me the longer it takes for the sink to fill up after running the water, the further down the line the clog is and it took 20 seconds for the sink to start backing up. 

So hopefully tomorrow our problems will be cleared up.

That third septic access really threw my husband off, though.  There's some sort of filter (called a Zaber filter) in there that needs to be cleaned every six months and it's never been cleaned.  The people who have always done our septic system went out of business.  Interesting they never discovered that third access.  Maybe that's why they are out of business. 

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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2011, 03:47:58 PM »
Trav, your woes with your septic system make me grateful for my lagoon.

The clay content where we live is so high that a septic system is nigh on useless and since we live out in the boonies somewhat (about a mile outside of town), we don't have a city sewer. That means, all our stinky stuff flows out to the lagoon where all kindsa critters hang out. Snapping turtles, huge spiders, bugs of all kinds. Never saw a muskrat in the lagoon, though. That's probably because I shoot the bastard before he gets there.  :rotf:

Anyway, I'm sure things will turn out fine. That filter thingie might be the problem, especially if it's never been changed out.....
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2011, 04:13:44 PM »
Well, damn, at least it wasen't too sh........ O-)
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2011, 07:11:35 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on October 13, 2011, 03:47:58 PM
Trav, your woes with your septic system make me grateful for my lagoon.

The clay content where we live is so high that a septic system is nigh on useless and since we live out in the boonies somewhat (about a mile outside of town), we don't have a city sewer. That means, all our stinky stuff flows out to the lagoon where all kindsa critters hang out. Snapping turtles, huge spiders, bugs of all kinds. Never saw a muskrat in the lagoon, though. That's probably because I shoot the bastard before he gets there.  :rotf:

Anyway, I'm sure things will turn out fine. That filter thingie might be the problem, especially if it's never been changed out.....



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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2011, 10:18:10 AM »
Quote from: Traveshamockery on October 13, 2011, 07:11:35 PM


Remind me to never adopt a turtle from you!    

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Well, you wouldn't want a snapper as a pet anyway. They tend to bite first and ask questions later.
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Re: Possible Collapsed Pipe
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2011, 03:00:09 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on October 14, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
Well, you wouldn't want a snapper as a pet anyway. They tend to bite first and ask questions later.

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