Everyone remember lil' piggy Ava?

[Mike220]

Stevenumbers would hit anything with a pulse.  And a few things without one.

Reminds me of a line from the first season of American Dad.

Stan: Hey, Jackson, you ever do it with a dead mermaid?
Jackson: Mermaid? No

[Ballygrl]

Oh, for those of us new here, what's the deal with her?

[Chris_]

She was a flash in the pan, DU's Mini-Me version of Cindy Sheehan.  Her claim to fame is cobbling together anti-war Powerpoint presentations artistic videos using other people's music and pictures.  Also, she claimed a conservative web site made death threats against her.  It was actually Newgrounds, where she had posted some of her videos and got some negative feedback instead of the mindless adulation she was expecting.

[miskie]

I actually did a cursory Ava search a couple of weeks back and came up empty handed - I suspect she either grew up or gave up.

[franksolich]

Oh, for those of us new here, what's the deal with her?

The chinless wonder was, allegedly, the youngest poster on Skins's island when she showed up at the age of 14 years (she's now 20 or 21), with all of her "peace takes courage" crap.

It presented a problem, because she was of course still a minor child, and so while some were okay with critiquing her works, others weren't.  It was a very touchy situation at our old home.

Of course, those who were uncomfortable giving their evaluations of the chinless wonder and her works omitted to remember one important fact; that the chinless wonder's mother should've been cited for child abuse, allowing her underage minor daughter to hang around primitives, some of which are not nice people.

It was a very touchy issue.

At one point, the chinless wonder apparently manufactured comments allegedly made by people at our old home, and so the chinless wonder's mother registered there, and complained.

It was a relief when the chinless wonder finally reached 18 years of age, after which everybody was comfortable giving their honest evaluations of her and her "works."

The chinless wonder was born and raised in Alabama, and oddly, home-schooled by her ultra-liberal maternal ancestress.  Why, was a mystery for the longest time, as the chinless wonder's older and younger sisters went to public schools.

There was the "cover story" that the chinless wonder's mother thought the chinless wonder was "too bright" for the public schools down there in Alabama, and so undertook her education herself.  As it turned out though, the real story was that the chinless wonder, who possesses an, uh, physical abnormality, was apparently subjected to bullying as a little lass, and so her mother yanked her.

Just before she headed to some film school in New York City about two years ago, the chinless wonder wrote a piece harshly and angrily resentful of the good and decent and civilized people of Alabama, and actually said in so many words that she was too good for the Alabama rednecks.  Talk about "gratitude" to the land and people that gave the chinless wonder life.

Her having such a negative attitude about her roots, franksolich speculated the chinless wonder was doomed to no good end.  It's some years, maybe even a decade or two, too early, but sooner or later the chinless wonder's going to realize that she spit in the faces of some of the finest people on God's green earth, and there are consequences for that.

The chinless wonder of course needs, very badly, a lesson about "consequences."

And she'll get it.  In what way or form, I have no idea, but she'll get it.  I've never seen it NOT happen.

[thelaughingman]

physical abnormality

Other than the lack of a jawbone?

[Randy]

Other than the lack of a jawbone?

Maybe round and rude too.

[franksolich]

Other than the lack of a jawbone?

Her lower jaw recedes into her neck.

Liberal mama never understood how "looks" are important for the growth and development of a child.

Normally, I say "don't tamper with nature"--and I'm on solid ground when saying that, myself being born absent ears--but there are some special instances where such minor tampering is called for.

"Looks" are important for the growth and development of a child.

(I'm not in favor of, and in fact am adamantly opposed to, cosmetic surgery to make a child more "beautiful;" I'm in favor of cosmetic surgery only to make a child "look more normal."  In other words, cosmetic surgery to correct a cleft palate is necessary, but not cosmetic surgery to make smaller a big nose).

If liberal home-teaching mama had been more perceptive--she's after all a woman herself--when the chinless wonder was an infant, probably some tampering should've been done, to give her a chin.  Not a fancy one, but a chin.

If the chinless wonder had been given a chin, probably she would've grown up more secure, more confident, more assured, and been more positive about things in general.

Instead, for lack of a simple surgical procedure circa 20 years ago, she's grown up a pissy sorry-ass loser.

[franksolich]

Shameless self-promotion here.

"vanity has its uses"

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,48940.0/

It's very short, and it's too bad the chinless wonder's mother never thought about such things.

[Ptarmigan]

Hehe...where's Zafod on this deal? 

Let's not forget Nonkultur and Adam Wood for breaking the news about her lies. Ava fabricated that Zafod made death threats to her at CU after she promoted her site. She also had one post, which was that. Her lies unraveled after Nonkultur looked into it.

[franksolich]

Let's not forget Nonkultur and Adam Wood for breaking the news about her lies. Ava fabricated that Zafod made death threats to her at CU after she promoted her site. She also had one post, which was that. Her lies unraveled after Nonkultur looked into it.

MoshMasterD, who's a member here, but shows up only rarely, was also intrigued by the chinless wonder; one hopes he pops in soon.

[Ptarmigan]

Oh, for those of us new here, what's the deal with her?

This goes back to spring of 2006 or 5 years ago at Conservative Underground (CU). Ava was much younger and showed up at CU trying to promote her stuff in late March to early April. It did not fly to well with anyone. It could be viewed as spamming, since she had one post, which was that. Zafod Beeblebrox wrote stuff that Ava interpreted as death threats. They were not. Ava did receive death threats, but not from a political site. However, she goes around claiming she got death threats from conservatives in April and May. However, Nonkultur and MoshMasterD, who also posted at CU, saw something not right and low and behold, Ava lied. The news of her lie broke at CU and Nutral Underground (NU) by Adam Wood. I wish CU did not have the crash in 2008, so I can show it. It was deleted.

[Ptarmigan]

MoshMasterD, who's a member here, but shows up only rarely, was also intrigued by the chinless wonder; one hopes he pops in soon.

If I recall MoshMasterD gave Ava a lot of grief, a lot more than Zafod. I wish Nonkultur and Adam Wood posted here. They are cool.

[Ptarmigan]

The chinless wonder was, allegedly, the youngest poster on Skins's island when she showed up at the age of 14 years (she's now 20 or 21), with all of her "peace takes courage" crap.

It presented a problem, because she was of course still a minor child, and so while some were okay with critiquing her works, others weren't.  It was a very touchy situation at our old home.

Of course, those who were uncomfortable giving their evaluations of the chinless wonder and her works omitted to remember one important fact; that the chinless wonder's mother should've been cited for child abuse, allowing her underage minor daughter to hang around primitives, some of which are not nice people.

It was a very touchy issue.

At one point, the chinless wonder apparently manufactured comments allegedly made by people at our old home, and so the chinless wonder's mother registered there, and complained.

It was a relief when the chinless wonder finally reached 18 years of age, after which everybody was comfortable giving their honest evaluations of her and her "works."

The chinless wonder was born and raised in Alabama, and oddly, home-schooled by her ultra-liberal maternal ancestress.  Why, was a mystery for the longest time, as the chinless wonder's older and younger sisters went to public schools.

There was the "cover story" that the chinless wonder's mother thought the chinless wonder was "too bright" for the public schools down there in Alabama, and so undertook her education herself.  As it turned out though, the real story was that the chinless wonder, who possesses an, uh, physical abnormality, was apparently subjected to bullying as a little lass, and so her mother yanked her.

Just before she headed to some film school in New York City about two years ago, the chinless wonder wrote a piece harshly and angrily resentful of the good and decent and civilized people of Alabama, and actually said in so many words that she was too good for the Alabama rednecks.  Talk about "gratitude" to the land and people that gave the chinless wonder life.

Her having such a negative attitude about her roots, franksolich speculated the chinless wonder was doomed to no good end.  It's some years, maybe even a decade or two, too early, but sooner or later the chinless wonder's going to realize that she spit in the faces of some of the finest people on God's green earth, and there are consequences for that.

The chinless wonder of course needs, very badly, a lesson about "consequences."

And she'll get it.  In what way or form, I have no idea, but she'll get it.  I've never seen it NOT happen.

Her lying left me a bad impression about Ava. She has own website and even a Wikipedia entry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ava_Lowery

Animation Producer Gets Ugly Slurs
http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc042406

One way for her to project lies. 

[franksolich]

If I recall MoshMasterD gave Ava a lot of grief, not as much as Zafod.

That was because MoshMasterD was shut up a couple of times, by the "sensitives" at our old home, who thought it not kosher to criticize a minor child.  

Of course, the "sensitives" were missing the main point entirely--that the chinless wonder's mother was practicing child abuse; by allowing the chinless wonder, who should've been playing with dolls at that age instead of waving around a movie camera, to wander around Skins's island, which had, and has, a great many of the, uh, predatory types presenting a hazard to underage girls.

I recall very well those two times the "sensitives" at our old home shut up MoshMasterD.

At the time conservativecave was formed, MoshMasterD once raised the question about whether or not it would be "okay" to mention the chinless wonder--but it was all moot anyway, because at that particular time, the chinless wonder was inactive on Skins's island, and then when she showed up again, she was 18, and so the issue no longer existed.

[Ptarmigan]

That was because MoshMasterD was shut up a couple of times, by the "sensitives" at our old home, who thought it not kosher to criticize a minor child.  

Of course, the "sensitives" were missing the main point entirely--that the chinless wonder's mother was practicing child abuse; by allowing the chinless wonder, who should've been playing with dolls at that age instead of waving around a movie camera, to wander around Skins's island, which had, and has, a great many of the, uh, predatory types presenting a hazard to underage girls.

I recall very well those two times the "sensitives" at our old home shut up MoshMasterD.

At the time conservativecave was formed, MoshMasterD once raised the question about whether or not it would be "okay" to mention the chinless wonder--but it was all moot anyway, because at that particular time, the chinless wonder was inactive on Skins's island, and then when she showed up again, she was 18, and so the issue no longer existed.

Same with Zafod too. That was a later a source of a running feud Zafod and MoshMasterD had with the "sensitives". If I recall, they were mothers themselves and I remember they got called scared off by the late Crockspot. I know Crockspot had running feuds with the "sensitives" at the time. I think Ava was a puppet for her mother and I think it does raise a legitimate question if this was indeed abuse.

[JohnnyReb]

Anyone have a current picture?...has she been eating well?

[GOBUCKS]

sooner or later the chinless wonder's going to realize that she spit in the faces of some of the finest people on God's green earth

I'm sure coach was speaking metaphorically. Absent a lower jaw, any attempt the butterball might make to spit would just result in saliva dribbled on her shirt.

[Ballygrl]

Thanks everyone for the info!

[franksolich]

Thanks!

Whoa.

No comment on my own helpful commentary, madam?

[Ballygrl]

Whoa.

No comment on my own helpful commentary, madam?

LOL frank, I just edited, Chris's was the 1st post I read and I just got done reading your 1st comment, so I'm still reading the rest.

[Ballygrl]

So did the Mother just make 1 comment at your old home? or did she debate the issue?

[Ballygrl]

WTF? she has a wiki entry? she's starting to seem like she's lacking severely in self esteem.

[Traveshamockery]

WTF? she has a wiki entry? she's starting to seem like she's lacking severely in self esteem.

I've learned a lot about Ava Lowery in this thread and I appreciate all of the information.  She is certainly special, isn't she?

Ugggggh. 

[GOBUCKS]

I've learned a lot about Ava Lowery in this thread and I appreciate all of the information.  She is certainly special, isn't she?

All Li'l Ava's recognition came at the height of the Bush Derangement Syndrome epidemic. Lots of moonbat organizations devoted to hating President Bush were looking for icons, and Li'l Ava made a handy poster child.

When BDS began to take a backseat to the Hopey/Changey thing and worship of The One, Li'l Ava totally disappeared. She still popped up at the DUmp to slander Alabama and announce her grand ascension to New York greatness, but the moonbat TV shows, moonbat bloggers, and moonbat news outlets forgot she ever existed. Li'l Ava was burned out before reaching age 17. Now all she can do is talk about how great she was at 16, and update her pathetic wikipedia page. Soon she'll have her useless film degree, and then what?

The 'Bama butterball couldn't carry Asher Heimermann's jockstrap.