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Offline Wretched Excess

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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2008, 10:32:40 PM »
you miss the point, as you do frequently. :whatever:

if you had never started the journey, it would have  never happened, right?

Right. And?

the point is that if you had missed that one night, you would still be a christian.

let's talk about what else happened on that one night.

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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2008, 12:46:56 PM »
the point is that if you had missed that one night, you would still be a christian.

let's talk about what else happened on that one night.

No. You missed the point. I'm not saying that the revival was what sent me on a journey away from religion. What I'm saying is that the revival was the first thing which made me aware that I was on a journey away from religion. In a way, it was a milestone... just a marker. The journey started when I was a kid and without me really knowing it had started.
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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2008, 10:15:20 PM »
One is real and one is fake.


Nonanswer answers don't cut it here. Try again.

You are so cute.  I think it is great your mommy and daddy let you play on the internets.  Liberal homes are really a great source of funny stuff on the internets.

Please tell your mommy and daddy we appreciate the funny things you say.
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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2008, 12:17:47 PM »
One is real and one is fake.


Nonanswer answers don't cut it here. Try again.
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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2008, 08:48:16 PM »
Let's see what the Bible has to say about this...

1 Corinthians 12:30 "Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?"

1 Corinthians 14:2-25 2For anyone who speaks in a tongue[a] does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. 3But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. 4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,[c] but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues,[d] unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified.

    6Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me. 12So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church.

    13For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says. 14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind. 16If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand[e] say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? 17You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified.

    18I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.

    20Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21In the Law it is written:
   "Through men of strange tongues
      and through the lips of foreigners
   I will speak to this people,
      but even then they will not listen to me,"[f] says the Lord.

    22Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers. 23So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand[g] or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand[h]comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, 25and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!"
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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2008, 09:12:15 PM »
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unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?

Yes, my friend. To TEACH is one of the greatest of God's gifts.  My mother was a natural teacher and, in RL (as opposed to the rather over the top style I use here from time to time), I too do pretty well in that area (which, IMHO is a gift that God gave my Mom which He gave to me through her).

But the gift of teaching is not the same as the craft of teaching.  There are teachers and there are TEACHERS. 





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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2008, 12:49:19 AM »
The Holy Spirit gives gifts for a reason........standing up in the middle of your congregation and babbling is not a reason. 

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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2008, 12:51:25 AM »
I'm interested in reading opinions on the practice of speaking in tongues. Is the practice of speaking in tongues actual evidence of humans communing with God or is it just mumbo jumbo?

If you had to ask, you'd never understand.

Why ask at all? Are Pentacostals storming your door? Or do you just have to inject your "opinion".....of which no one really gives a ****?

I was raised a Pentacostal. You don't like what they do, don't go to a Pentacostal church, prick.
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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2008, 07:43:34 AM »
The Holy Spirit gives gifts for a reason........standing up in the middle of your congregation and babbling is not a reason. 

Paul tells us that speaking in tongues should only be done in public when their is someone who is able to interpret the tongue near by.

1 Corinthians 14:27-28 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two or at the most three - should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in church and speak to himself and God.
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Re: About speaking in tongues...
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2008, 07:45:08 AM »
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unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?

Yes, my friend. To TEACH is one of the greatest of God's gifts.  My mother was a natural teacher and, in RL (as opposed to the rather over the top style I use here from time to time), I too do pretty well in that area (which, IMHO is a gift that God gave my Mom which He gave to me through her).

But the gift of teaching is not the same as the craft of teaching.  There are teachers and there are TEACHERS. 



Good never gives a gift that he doesn't intend for us to use.
Man’s greatness is so obvious that it can even be deduced from his wretchedness, for what is nature in animals we call wretchedness in man, thus recognizing that, if his nature is today like that of the animals, he must have fallen from some better state which was once his own.
Blaise Pascal