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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2010, 05:30:01 AM »
Here is why I laugh at the Tea Parties and the overall conservative movement and no, I'm not a typical liberal.



So, you must have a much better idea for taking back the government than voting out incumbents and shaking up both parties.  Let's hear it... 
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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2010, 12:32:37 PM »
So, you must have a much better idea for taking back the government than voting out incumbents and shaking up both parties.  Let's hear it... 

Jake doesn't have any real ideas......if you review his posts, he just wants to whine.........

Although he is cautious not to violate any of the rules here, his comments are very typical of most of the denizens of DU, regardless of their situations, or who holds the reins of political (or economic) power, he/they are never satisfied.  It's the "evil banks, evil corporations, evil Wall Street, evil Republicans, evil Democrats" mantra.........same old tired song, with multiple verses......

Like many of his ilk, everything is someone (or something) else's fault.........personal responsibility and personal effort, do not exist in their lexicon.........miserable, self-centered, narcissistic, and dependent.......as I said before pathetic.

The old sage, "when life gives you lemons.....make lemonade", would never occur to them........

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2010, 01:48:34 PM »
Jake doesn't have any real ideas......if you review his posts, he just wants to whine.........

Although he is cautious not to violate any of the rules here, his comments are very typical of most of the denizens of DU, regardless of their situations, or who holds the reins of political (or economic) power, he/they are never satisfied.  It's the "evil banks, evil corporations, evil Wall Street, evil Republicans, evil Democrats" mantra.........same old tired song, with multiple verses......

Like many of his ilk, everything is someone (or something) else's fault.........personal responsibility and personal effort, do not exist in their lexicon.........miserable, self-centered, narcissistic, and dependent.......as I said before pathetic.

The old sage, "when life gives you lemons.....make lemonade", would never occur to them........

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2010, 02:00:46 PM »
I obey the law because I have not had a cavity search and do not want to start now.


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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2010, 02:03:59 PM »
If he doesn't have any answers, then he should hush his "mouth" until he finds some.

I certainly agree......however most lefties have difficulty with that premise.......

I know I'm misquoting, but....."......It is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt......"

They never understand that.

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2010, 02:17:39 PM »
My evil plans for world domination have not yet come to fruition, I must bide my time and conform for now.  For now...
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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2010, 02:29:05 PM »
The OP makes me think of Jury Nullification.

I'm an advocate of it.
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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2010, 02:46:14 PM »
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Here is why I laugh at the Tea Parties and the overall conservative movement and no, I'm not a typical liberal.

Conservatives are overly obsessed with the GM and Chrysler bailout over unions, which lost their power even within the Democratic party years ago.

However, as seen in another thread, banking bailouts and Federal Reserve Behavior seem to be OK to a better extent than the GM and Chrysler bailout even though, fundamentally, ethically, moral hazard wise, and monetarily they are going to cost the taxpayer more.


Do you live under a rock? You think the Obama bailouts, the various stimuli, including the first awful, absurdly ginormous one, and Bush's TARP before that are ok with Tea Party people/identifiers, and with conservatives generally? Have you seen the signs? Have you even listened to our main complaints about spending? And is Obamacare "peanuts" to you?


I'll give you points for not bringing up defense spending, at least not in this thread. That's the FIRST place every liberal wants to cut, despite the fact that it is the ONE budgetary area absolutely essential for national survival--and one of the few areas of federal spending specifically Constitutionally mandated; that also means a great deal to conservatives, whether or not spending falls within the ambit of federal Constitutional authority. And it's nothing to laugh at. Thus we should NOT be wasting money on a Department of Education, and the EPA has evolved into one of the worst drags on GDP in the nation's history. Neither is a specific, enumerated federal duty. If "general welfare" means EVERYTHING is potentially a federal duty, then why were other duties specifically enumerated? Or is the Constitution just a silly impediment to you?


We who stand against excessive federal spending when it is yoked to flatly anti-Constitutional federal intervention laugh at you--and we pity you as well. You strive so much to affect an above-the-fray pose, but your impenetrable pretense is just ensuring that you remain ignorant. I really don't know for sure if you believe your muck about detesting both parties, as if you really can’t see that the Dems will always raise taxes and always overspend, while the Republican party, though far from perfect, offers a political platform to oppose excessive spending (you need only examine the vote tallies on Obama’s/Pelosi’s/Reid’s spending sprees to see where the parties stand NOW). I’m fairly sure that you do see the difference and are, as I said before, just adopting a pose that you imagine places you among the cognoscenti, instead of where it really places you—among the willfully ignorant. No, no, not for you agreement with 60%+ of the country—why, any set of tenets that attracts so great a following must automatically be wrong to you, and you must automatically oppose it, lest you be counted among the hoi polloi. The problem with that kind of unthinking autoelitism is that the majority are very often correct.
On this board you’re dealing with highly educated, very well informed, and deeply and broadly experienced people possessing extraordinary intellects well above the national median, and you’d better get used to not being the smartest kid in class, because you’re not even close.

You COULD open your mind and learn a few things here—but I’m not holding my breath.





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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2010, 03:46:52 PM »

and the EPA has evolved into one of the worst drags on GDP in the nation's history.

The EPA is also flatly UnConstitutional and illegal given its power of uncompensated eminent domain.
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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2010, 05:24:37 PM »

"My reason are sane, yours are all imagined.

....I'm smart....I can always... I could give... I mean...I honestly laugh...you are too dumb...
I could go on... I'm a liberal douche."

You're trying so hard to convince yourself that you're brilliant.  There must be a psychiatric term for this phenomenon. 

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2010, 06:09:03 PM »
You're trying so hard to convince yourself that you're brilliant.  There must be a psychiatric term for this phenomenon. 

Those excerpts could just as well be from an Obama speech, and they both suffer from the same malady......."malignant narcissism".....

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2010, 08:13:06 PM »
Those excerpts could just as well be from an Obama speech, and they both suffer from the same malady......."malignant narcissism".....

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Ist that the same as "Self Absorbed Asshole"....?

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2010, 08:42:32 PM »
Ist that the same as "Self Absorbed Asshole"....?

Pretty much. Also, I noticed narcissism comes hand in hand with anti-social and paranoid personality disorder. Also, borderline personality and histrionic personality disorder. Narcissists tend to be insecure and often feel persecuted and are sensitive to insults.
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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2010, 02:26:27 AM »
I certainly agree......however most lefties have difficulty with that premise.......

I know I'm misquoting, but....."......It is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt......"

They never understand that.

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If you ready between the lines...the underlying and recurring theme of ALL his posts is "it's Bush's fault".

His "ten years ago" reference in all his bloviating has to do with the Enron scandal and the fall of the Arthur Andersen accounting firm.
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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2010, 04:00:24 PM »
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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2010, 10:39:08 AM »
Here is why I laugh at the Tea Parties and the overall conservative movement and no, I'm not a typical liberal.

Conservatives are blah, blah, blah...

Yeah, you're a typical lib.

I hate I missed this little foot stomping and pouting secession.  Look, you're 31, not married, living at home, and making 1/2 what you did a year ago (if you can be believed at all).  You're just not that special, nor are you intelligent.

There's nothing wrong with this economy that conservative, free-market monetary policies won't fix.  Methaphorically speaking, finding a cure for this economy means isolating the disease that caused it.  The disease is liberalism.  The disease is you.  Until you recognize that you are the problem, you'll continue to have to revamp and kick down the road your quacky economic theories as to what the nation is facing.  I look forward, for entertainment purposes only, to watching you having to continually update your dooms day scenerios.

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2010, 07:09:09 PM »
::cough::  Not that there's anything wrong with it, but OET seems to be a refuge for banned DUers, too bad they're just as angry and clueless.  Unfortunately, seems the hottest topic threads are for registered users only :uhsure:

http://www.oldelmtree.com/index.php?board=86.0


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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2010, 08:24:00 PM »
One of ATJ's epistles:

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This is the last post in common sense.  I just gone done talking to a few workers in the electricians union locally.  Despite what the powers that be will tell you, these are articulate understanding men, with a very important skill.  I got on my soap box like I usually will.  I strongly supported the rights of my brothers in labor to organize and demand a fair wage for doing a good job near to perfection for a fair wage.  A wage that allows their children to at least accomplish what they have accomplished.  

I'm an accountant with a minor in economics, I was once given the keys to the castle by the anointed ones.  I achieved what my father what had hoped, I was the equivalent of my Great Grandfather with abilities.  However, I said not this time not this way.  I will not allow my fellow man to be exploited.

My friends in labor, while moved asked me to never give up their fight.  To never give up the idea of an honest day work being paid at the expense of those up the latter.  I promised them,  I will never forget who I am or where I am from.  I will not forget how the elites stole my great grandfather's wealth which he felt entitled.  Nor will I forget my great grandfather's struggle against the mine owners in eastern PA.  Nor will I forget they hung one of us.  On my mother's side

NO.  I will fight, till I can no longer breathe, and those who will exploit our labor will pay.  With their lives if necessary.

Despite what you may think of me, I'm a more scary orator than Antony when Caesar was assasinated, and I'm a more powerful speaker than you can imagine.  I temper in fear of myself. Soon I will use it against Mr. Obama to teach him a lesson of what happens when you betray the people who brought you to power.

Solidarity.

He certainly is impressed with himself........

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Re: Why do YOU obey the law
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2010, 05:01:18 AM »
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Despite what you may think of me, I'm a more scary orator than Antony when Caesar was assasinated, and I'm a more powerful speaker than you can imagine.  I temper in fear of myself. Soon I will use it against Mr. Obama to teach him a lesson of what happens when you betray the people who brought you to power.

You are a know nothing blowhard Liberal idiot who's just found a more creative way of saying "It's Bush's fault".

And once people at CC caught wise to your deceptive words...you ran like a schoolgirl who'd just seen a mouse.
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