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Offline Ballygrl

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 07:33:17 PM »
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42. What is your daughter's first name?

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44. We aren't even allowed to say that.
   
We had to run this by the attorney before we could post it.

OK, I'm not a Lawyer, but has anyone ever heard of this at all? I know that juvenile's are protected when it comes to their names, but why can't this person asking for money reveal anything at all?
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2010, 07:38:28 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on September 13, 2010, 07:33:17 PM

OK, I'm not a Lawyer, but has anyone ever heard of this at all? I know that juvenile's are protected when it comes to their names, but why can't this person asking for money reveal anything at all?

No, that's total horseshit. If the so-called daughter is currently a defendant in a felony beef, it's a matter of public record, so for this chooch to try claiming that he "isn't allowed" to give up her first name is all the proof a thinking person needs to conclude that this guy is running some serious game on the primitives, starting with skinner.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2010, 07:43:22 PM »
Quote from: HollywoodNeoCon on September 13, 2010, 07:38:28 PM
No, that's total horseshit. If the so-called daughter is currently a defendant in a felony beef, it's a matter of public record, so for this chooch to try claiming that he "isn't allowed" to give up her first name is all the proof a thinking person needs to conclude that this guy is running some serious game on the primitives, starting with skinner.

I thought felonies were part of the public record too.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2010, 07:44:18 PM »
Is it just me or has there been a lot more begging going on over there ?  Not just authorized like this one.  I for one am surprised Skinhead is allowing the competition. Several times I have seen threads with links to a wish list type url but I have never investigated it.  Hum.

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2010, 07:45:36 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on September 13, 2010, 06:15:04 PM
Hmm I don't believe Bear Fan is old enough to have a 59 year old daughter.

Maybe the "daughter" is actually the wife, but he figured the persecuted daughter story would make him more money...
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2010, 07:53:40 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on September 13, 2010, 07:43:22 PM
I thought felonies were part of the public record too.

Oh, they are, which is why I think this guy is full of shit.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2010, 08:21:16 PM »
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all the proof a thinking person needs to conclude that this guy is running some serious game on the primitives, starting with skinner.

If this is how it's going down, I don't know how I feel about it. My loathing of the DUmors is battling with my dislike of scammer idiots.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2010, 08:31:58 PM »
SCAM SCAM SCAM!!

I can see why the attorney doesn't want the case details discussed, but the daughter's first name and charges are public record and CAN be shared.

I'm about 120% positive this is a scam.  Why not just use PayPal for donations?  I've never even heard of the site they are using.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2010, 08:35:41 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on September 13, 2010, 08:31:58 PM
SCAM SCAM SCAM!!

I can see why the attorney doesn't want the case details discussed, but the daughter's first name and charges are public record and CAN be shared.

I'm about 120% positive this is a scam.  Why not just use PayPal for donations?  I've never even heard of the site they are using.

I think that to the DUmmies this site gives a little more air of legitimacy to the DUmmies than Pay-Pal does.  :mental:
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2010, 08:37:50 PM »
Quote from: VivisMom on September 13, 2010, 04:39:28 PM
His name is Steve Martinez.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bearfan454

If one can go back and look in the history of his DU Journal, that might have some info. I'm not seeing how one can see previous entries, however.


It's Stevo Martinez and he lives in Taylor, Texas - he's very fond of writing "letters to the editor" (read: moonbat rants) to the local paper. There's also a "Mrs. Bearfan 454" that posts at the DUmp and is apparently the wife.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2010, 01:15:04 AM »
Interesting, it seems that Bearfan himself had a felony issue about 6 years ago:

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My wife left me and I have a felony trial coming up for something stupid I did when intoxicated.

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2010, 03:45:36 AM »
They'll fall for anything.

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2010, 03:54:32 AM »
If the DUmmies are stupid enough to give then I have some perfect ocean front property I want to sell them in the heart of Arizonia
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2010, 04:25:37 AM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on September 13, 2010, 07:45:36 PM
Maybe the "daughter" is actually the wife, but he figured the persecuted daughter story would make him more money...

You might be onto something . . .
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2010, 07:35:42 AM »
Quote from: delilahmused on September 14, 2010, 03:45:36 AM
They'll fall for anything.

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2010, 12:12:19 PM »
Me thinks this poser doesn't want any info out for the simple reason after reading the crime and what evidence is published, would immediately realize said defendant is as guilty as hell and they would be throwing their money away!

That's my read anyway. Even if the link posted isn't the case against his daughter/wife, even DUmmies have a hard time donating money for the abuse of kids! What other reason could he have for not sharing the charges?
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2010, 12:16:23 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on September 14, 2010, 12:12:19 PM
Me thinks this poser doesn't want any info out for the simple reason after reading the crime and what evidence is published, would immediately realize said defendant is as guilty as hell and they would be throwing their money away!

That's my read anyway. Even if the link posted isn't the case against his daughter/wife, even DUmmies have a hard time donating money for the abuse of kids! What other reason could he have for not sharing the charges?

ITA! it's just easier to say she was framed by Republicans YET give absolutely nothing to back that up.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2010, 04:25:46 PM »
By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2010, 04:29:21 PM »
... and a prosecutor jumped out of the bushes.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2010, 04:36:45 PM »
Just $10 away from getting bearfan's daughter acquitted!

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2010, 04:38:51 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on September 14, 2010, 04:36:45 PM
Just $10 away from getting bearfan's daughter acquitted!

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My donation will be on the way within 24 business hours.  :whatever:
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2010, 04:57:29 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on September 14, 2010, 04:25:46 PM
By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.

 :-)

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2010, 05:00:58 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on September 13, 2010, 07:45:36 PM
Maybe the "daughter" is actually the wife, but he figured the persecuted daughter story would make him more money...

I think you're right.  The name, county and time-frame are correct and considering the charges saying it was his daughter would throw anybody off when they went looking for it.
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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2010, 05:10:09 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on September 14, 2010, 04:25:46 PM
By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a  felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.

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Re: The bearfan family needs your help (DU scam???)
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2010, 05:16:30 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on September 14, 2010, 04:25:46 PM
By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.

 :-)

If he's in dog pound like the local one....they literally have you both by the balls.

They're going to charge you to get your dog back but they're going to keep his balls.
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