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subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« on: June 03, 2010, 07:13:11 PM »


Yep they sure are one brilliant group of people.

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subsuelo  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Jun-03-10 06:57 PM
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I could care less if all oil drilling ends.   Updated at 6:58 PM
   
I could care less if all oil drilling ends, right now, the world over.

People cry and complain that the economy will tank. That we depend on crude oil for so many things and how could we possibly get by without it.

Maybe the key phrase to consider is "for so many things". See, it's not an addiction to oil that's the problem. It's an addiction to things. In other words: It's the materialism, stupid!

All the 'things' that depend on oil such as vehicles and plastic goods - I could care less if I had to go on without those precious things. My life would have to go on, and I might be forced to - Go outside and enjoy nature! Tend to my garden! Spend time with family! Oh, the horror (sarcasm). I might have to use paper bags at the store!

Actually the back-to-nature scenario isn't so scary at all for me.

Maybe cold-turkey is the best method. We obviously are not motivated enough to make necessary changes towards an oil-free society on our own time schedule.

So, why stop at the DW Horizon site - I say let's start plugging them all up, every last one of them. For the good of the planet (the planet includes us - we are not separate from it).

Yes you can walk to the store but it's going to be dark in there since there will be NO electricity.  And even if it wasn't how the heck do you think the food is going to get there?  Healing white light will not grow or deliver FOOD!

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1. So, you are OK with mass starvation?

AT least one DUmmie gets it.

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2. Nice corporate propaganda excuse    Updated at 6:58 PM
   
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 07:12 PM by subsuelo
yeah, we're all going to starve to death without our precious oil.

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3. it is a myth
   
It is a myth that agriculture is dependent upon oil. Use of oil allowed many people to leave the farm and mover to the city, that is all. It is whatever they are doing in lieu of farming that is dependent upon oil.

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8. You obviously aren't a farmer are you.
   
What, you think that farmers are still using Belgian horses and mortarboard plows to break the soil? Hauling produce to market in a buckboard pulled by the old gray mare?

And let's not even get into the amount of petroleum to be found in various fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides.

I could just picture all the urban dwelling DUmmies trying to figure out how to feed a family of four from a window planter. :lmao:



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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 07:18:52 PM »
If over-the-road truckers stopped driving retailers would be out of food and other supplies in 3 days.
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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 07:26:14 PM »
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I could care less if all oil drilling ends, right now, the world over.

Have fun walking, DUmmy ::)
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 07:28:56 PM »
They have no idea how far reaching oil is into society and the benefits they enjoy because of it.
That they make these proclamations without thought or research shows what simple minded and ignorant fools they are.

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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 07:53:18 PM »
I've always found it hypocritical for people to say stop our dependency on oil yet there they are in homes that need oil to run, on their computers in that home, drive their cars here and there, why not practice what you preach and go live in a tree.
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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 08:52:27 PM »
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I could care less if all oil drilling ends, right now, the world over.

I say let's start plugging them all up, every last one of them.

OK, here's deal, take it or leave it:  You cap the wells, and conservatives get to cap every liberal.  That's a fair trade.

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 11:22:03 PM »
see, to a dummy, all of these problems would be solved if we all just drove electric cars.

after all, electric cars don't use oil.  they just recharge.  

and i know what you are thinking...  were does the electricity come from?  there is a plug.  in the wall.  that spews electricity.  its all very green.

all of life's problems really are that simple.  

electricity just comes from somewhere.  when i flush the toilet, or put the trash out every wednesday for pickup,  it just goes someplace.   if you need food you just take public transportation to the store, all he food you need is right there.  

why can't you people see how simple these solutions are?




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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 11:29:31 PM »
I have said many many times:

Oil is the best reason in the world to go to war.

I have upset many a "No War For Oil" idiot.

It made me happy.

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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 11:42:10 PM »
why can't you people see how simple these solutions are?
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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 01:16:44 AM »

Yep they sure are one brilliant group of people.

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Yes you can walk to the store but it's going to be dark in there since there will be NO electricity.  And even if it wasn't how the heck do you think the food is going to get there?  Healing white light will not grow or deliver FOOD!

AT least one DUmmie gets it.

I could just picture all the urban dwelling DUmmies trying to figure out how to feed a family of four from a window planter. :lmao:


Oil is used for a great many things, like the drugs DUmmies like/need to ingest on a regular basis....

In that aspect, yes, I'd LOVE to see "NO OIL" for about a month or so....

Otherwise, since there will be no wheat for bread, let them eat cake....
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 02:35:01 AM »
How do you educate DUmmies....plug the oil wells.

How do you convert socialist to capitalist....plug the oil wells.

How do you convert deadbeats to worker bees.... plug the oil wells.

The socialist welfare system depends more on oil than the dam DUmmies can imagine.
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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 07:12:46 AM »
Oh my God.  I'm speechless.  This may have to end up in mind numbing stupidity.  "I might have to use paper bags at the store."  I know papermaking.  It uses tremendous amounts of energy, about 25% of the cost of mfg is energy, and oil is part of the mix.  I don't have time to row over right now, but I intend to.  What a dipshit. 

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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 07:30:46 AM »
Oh my God.  I'm speechless.  This may have to end up in mind numbing stupidity.  "I might have to use paper bags at the store."  I know papermaking.  It uses tremendous amounts of energy, about 25% of the cost of mfg is energy, and oil is part of the mix.  I don't have time to row over right now, but I intend to.  What a dipshit. 

To add, there will not be anything on those store shelves to put into those paper bags.

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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 07:38:28 AM »
OK, here's deal, take it or leave it:  You cap the wells, and conservatives get to cap every liberal.  That's a fair trade.

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That line has bumper sticker potential.

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Conservatives will cap the liberals


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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 07:45:04 AM »
Oil is used for a great many things, like the drugs DUmmies like/need to ingest on a regular basis....

In that aspect, yes, I'd LOVE to see "NO OIL" for about a month or so....

Otherwise, since there will be no wheat for bread, let them eat cake....

How would they make pleather for the PETA idiots over at DU without oil?

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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2010, 08:42:13 AM »
Get a load of this moonbat:

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34. People would need to be closer to their food source, more labor would be needed. Look at the billions that suburbanites spend on junk trying to fill the void left by the absence of the things they once had for free on the farm - natural beauty, exercise and fitness, peace of mind, meaning and purpose in their lives, community, being out-of-doors, freshness, natural things. They buy all sorts of crap to get those things, and all of that crap is much more dependent upon oil than farming is.
 
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2010, 09:02:19 AM »
I look at it this way...run out of oil tomorrow, and the cities will riot and burn themselves down in a matter of weeks, maybe days.

Anyone else see a problem with this?
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2010, 09:29:04 AM »
I look at it this way...run out of oil tomorrow, and the cities will riot and burn themselves down in a matter of weeks, maybe days.

Anyone else see a problem with this?

Yeah, the DUmmies will be escaping from the cities like rats from a sinking ship. They will be invading my territory trying to steal what little the government has left me.

Johnny Horton had a song that with a slight change would fit that situation.

"....we fired our cannons 'til the barrels melted down...then we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round....we stuffed his head with cannonballs and powered his behind....and we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind.... Wellllll we fired our guns but the DUmmies kept a coming but there wasn't nye as many as there was awhile ago...."

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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2010, 09:33:38 AM »
Get a load of this moonbat:
   :lmao:    :kumbaya:

Check out this little exchange...

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182. Let me add a few factoids that most people 
 don't know... and I forgive Rousseau for the noble savage, he had no clue... we have no excuses.

Many an African society had institutional slavery built into it. Some slaves were sold and bought like they were in the South, and their children were property too. Others worked their debt that way and were closer to indentured servants. Why many of the EARLY African American Slaves went into the business themselves once they became free men in the early colonies.

When the slave trade started with Africa, many of those slaves were captured and provided by other more powerful tribes.

Ah facts that many folks in the US don't learn... I mean after all we were the only ones that lived on with that particular institution...  and others doing it don't justify the horrors either.

I have to put that there for the many round these parts that will make that exact argument. It does help to explain the ease of trade though. (Oh and of course even less known the trade in white slavery)
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187. let's not go there
 You are promoting two of the most popular revisionist ideas from Confederate sympathizers and racists.

"Black enslaved blacks" and "whites were slaves, too."

While those "factoids" may be true to one extent or another, they are only used for mitigating and obscuring the truth about the institution of slavery in this country, to whitewash racism out of the picture.

Don't go there, really.


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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2010, 09:42:55 AM »
Check out this little exchange...
  


Anyone old enough to remember "Dragnet"..... "The facts ma'm, just the facts."

Yeah, well if it were on TV today it would go something like this.

Officer Joe Gannon, "The facts ma'am, just the liberal facts."
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2010, 10:17:22 AM »
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...the things they once had for free on the farm - natural beauty, exercise and fitness, peace of mind, meaning and purpose in their lives.......

Even a nine year old who has read at least one Little House on the Prarie book knows that there was very little "peace of mind" on the farm....... there were no weather reports, doughts and storms and swarms of locusts would ruin an entire year's crop......the remote locations of the farms put them many horse hours from medical care.....

Idiots.  But they are amusing idiots.
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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2010, 10:36:52 AM »
The dummies are immature, and don't think things any further out than their own selfish feelings. If they were children, it would be one thing. But these are adults, in age at least, saying things like this. Willful ignorance is an ugly thing.

A couple get it, that we would be back to the stone-age if the OP's fantasy came true. Others, like WZF, like to pretend that leftist fantasies of the communal farm would have people happy in their place in the Marxist utopia. WZF, with his supposed farm, is just using oil in his tractor for the time being, until he can be given enough workers by the government to do away with said tractor. That's what the Marxist fantasies boil down to, wishing for equal misery for all in the hopes they'll be one of the chosen few with a dacha.

This really is one of the dumbest threads from DU, ever. This is concrete block and chicken wire stupidity.

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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2010, 10:47:10 AM »
Yeah DUmbass, stop the oil! Don't know of a single thing that would touch off a civil war in this country any quicker! Need I remind you which side is armed to the teeth?
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2010, 11:52:06 AM »
Okay but how are they going to print and deliver Welfare and SS checks?

How will they make soup in soup kitchens?

Deliver blankets to homeless shelters?

Manufacture MD 2o/20 for the bums?

How will pot be harvested and delivered.

How will the poor native Americans make money on the small plots of land they have left if their casinos suddenly went dark (and then what would my inlaws do on Friday nights)?

How would we cram all those city folk here in the country so they can get back to this idyllic country life?

Won't they have to displace the spotted owl to have enough space for everyone out here?

And how will they keep the rivers from becoming more polluted and stressed as more people live nearby and need to use them? How will the endangered sucker fish that eats the endangered salmon's eggs survive?

How will small, bruised organic fruit and vegetables that simply can't grow in certain parts of the country get to the overpriced, smelly mom and pop organic market?

How will they press tofu into those nice little cakes in those hermetically sealed cartons?

What will happen to tofurkey growers?

How will we support those poor undocumented workers and their families without large farms, construction companies and Home Depot parking lots?

Where will rappers and wannabes get their bling?

What happens when you're really, really stoned and you forget you have brownies in the oven (being heated by sticks and twigs, I guess) and the grass hut catches on fire?

Who will answer the phones when you dial 911 (or will we just send out smoke signals because phones will no longer be manufactured)? Will the firemen have to come with horses, dalmations and buckets again?  And will they get there in time to help with the rebuilding because we'll need the water in those buckets to make the mud to hold the grass together.

What happens during the years when the crops fail and you can't just run in to Safeway and buy the fermented soy to make tempeh burgers for your annual harvest party?

If we're all moving to the country and living off the land how will we all have a big enough plot of land to feed the sheep, fiber goats, and rabbits to make your clothes?

How will the world's lesbians feed their cats? Will they have to resort to killing their own chickens since canned and packaged organic, human-grade cat food will no longer be manufactured?

See, DUmmie, you're only thinking about how this will affect you're fantasy life! You imagine every day full of sunshine where you can look outside your kitchen window and see peas and tomatoes growing with no droughts, or years where rain prevents you from planting in time to get enough food harvested to store for winter. Or years where rains rot most of the crops. How will you store food for the winter? You won't have a freezer any more because you won't have electricity. Stupid, stupid DUmmie.

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Re: subsuelo - another DUmp genius shows his stuff
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2010, 11:55:00 AM »
This really is one of the dumbest threads from DU, ever. This is concrete block and chicken wire stupidity.

This is pretty normal for them. lol.