Is the worlds smartest human going GA-GA

[vesta111]

http://www.aolnews.com/science/article/stephen-hawking-says-aliens-exist/19453924

OH MY-----

What to think, how to follow his line of reasoning.?

I do NOT believe in space traveling species unless they are spores or what ever.

GOD may have seeded the earth, perhaps, there are however mention in Genesis of Giants and spirits that impregnated the woman of the day.     Chapter 6-- Who ever believes will take this as fact.

Problem for me is where the heck did all these woman come from, Genesis in 4-17 says Cains WIFE conserved a son, Enoch------  Where did his wife come from.

I know I am off subject sort of, but, I wonder how much of Hawkings theory's come from science or religion.

Anyone that is a Jew or Christian does in fact believe in Alien life forms, good and bad spirits, a higher life [ GOD ] form with the human emotion of feeling mentally lonely for some reason while living with Angels that came came from somewhere  that were friend and foe.

Now comes the rub, Hawking finds whatever is out there is dangerous to to us and our planet. Is Hawking warning us about the evil spirits or Angels we are taught of that will take over mans souls.?  Is he thinking of the Cattle mutilations in the south west for years, has he been listening to Coast to Coast at night as people call in with story"s about visitations and or kidnapping by life forms in a UFO.?

BTW, of all the Bible, old and New Genesis is the most interesting to me.  This is the make or break Chapter that leads to FAITH----   



 

[Wineslob]

IMO it is the folly of humankind to think we are the only beings in the universe.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

IMO it is the folly of humankind to think we are the only beings in the universe.

Anti-theists scoff at the notion of demons and angels.

But many of them sway with rapt romanticism at notions of diembodied extra-terrastrial intelligences visiting the earth and guiding its inhabitants.

[The Village Idiot]

There are millions of galaxies and billions of stars in each, or the other way around.

There likely ARE other intelligent species out there.

We might never meet them, of course.

[rich_t]

Problem for me is where the heck did all these woman come from, Genesis in 4-17 says Cains WIFE conserved a son, Enoch------  Where did his wife come from.

The Bible states that God created Adam and Eve.

It doesn't say that he stopped with just the 1st two.

[Chris_]

OH MY-----

I do NOT believe in space traveling species unless they are spores or what ever.

Well......having studied both Astrophysics and Universal Probabilities extensively........I can say with some authority that the mathematical probability that intelligent life DOES NOT exist elsewhere in the universe is so small as to be statistically insignificant.........

Whether or not such life has visited here.......there is no convincing evidence as yet, however, there are many theories and myths connected to this concept.

My position is not based upon any religious interpretation of scripture or speculation on that interpretation.......it is purely based on crunching the numbers.......

doc

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Well......having studied both Astrophysics and Universal Probabilities extensively........I can say with some authority that the mathematical probability that intelligent life DOES NOT exist elsewhere in the universe is so small as to be statistically insignificant.........

doc

Ball park: how many solar systems vs how many are habitable vs how many could have life?

[Chris_]

Ball park: how many solar systems vs how many are habitable vs how many could have life?

Drawing purely from memory of a paper that I read on the subject:

It is calculated that there are approximately 17 billion stars roughly the same size, age, and configuration as our sun........

Based on Hubble observations, approximately 60% of the observable stars in this class have planetary systems of some kind........

If (taking the most pessimistic estimate) only .0001%  are assumed to be life sustaining.......that would yield slightly more that a thousand opportunities for a planet to exist that can sustain life as we know it.......at a bare statistical minimum

That does not take into account the fact that intelligent life could be based on an entirely different construct than ours.......expanding the probabilities greatly.

And further, this is based only on our present understanding of the scope of the universe.......which is acknowledged by all those who study it, to likely be far from correct......the general assumption is that consideration of all other variables would fall on the side of increasing the probability, rather than reducing it.

doc

[The Village Idiot]

and there might be a lot more galaxies out there than we know of too.

[jinxmchue]

Cain's wife was his sister.  Back then, the genetic pool wasn't as corrupted by the Fall.  It took several generations before the gene pool was corrupted enough for God to forbid close relations from marrying and having children together.

Now before you get all up in my face about "That's incest!!!", think about this: Adam and Eve were genetic twins (Eve was made from Adam) who had children together.  Why doesn't anyone ever complain about that?

[jinxmchue]

Why is it that when you believe in God "without proof," you're considered a stupid kook, but if you believe in bug-eyed aliens in outer space who seeded Earth with life without proof, you're considered a brilliant academic mind?

[PatriotGame]

Why is it that when you believe in God "without proof," you're considered a stupid kook, but if you believe in bug-eyed aliens in outer space who seeded Earth with life without proof, you're considered a brilliant academic mind?

Because Coast to Coast AM says so! 

[Thor]

Why is it that when you believe in God "without proof," you're considered a stupid kook, but if you believe in bug-eyed aliens in outer space who seeded Earth with life without proof, you're considered a brilliant academic mind?

Without proof?? There is more proof that aliens have visited Earth than the proof that God exists. Perhaps God is an alien?? If one considers that God made Adam "from dirt", that seems to me to suggest some sort of genetic manipulation. With Eve being made from his rib suggests some form of cloning. In the books of Daniel and Ezekiel, spacecraft were often referred to. Perhaps not in the way we'd describe them today, but in an archaic sense. Then there's the Saqqara bird, a "model" so to say, of an aircraft that predates the first aircraft by Centuries, if not a millenia or more. With an upscaled model being tested in an airflow chamber, the model possessed all the characteristics of modern aircraft. When Christ ascended into the heavens, what was that all about?? What about the "virgin birth" of Jesus?? Was that an alien abduction and impregnation?? I do not deny God or Christ, but these are questions that I continually contemplate.

[vesta111]

Without proof?? There is more proof that aliens have visited Earth than the proof that God exists. Perhaps God is an alien?? If one considers that God made Adam "from dirt", that seems to me to suggest some sort of genetic manipulation. With Eve being made from his rib suggests some form of cloning. In the books of Daniel and Ezekiel, spacecraft were often referred to. Perhaps not in the way we'd describe them today, but in an archaic sense. Then there's the Saqqara bird, a "model" so to say, of an aircraft that predates the first aircraft by Centuries, if not a millenia or more. With an upscaled model being tested in an airflow chamber, the model possessed all the characteristics of modern aircraft. When Christ ascended into the heavens, what was that all about?? What about the "virgin birth" of Jesus?? Was that an alien abduction and impregnation?? I do not deny God or Christ, but these are questions that I continually contemplate.

Medically speaking there have been times recorded about virgin birth.  In some cases a woman can become pregnant without penetration if sperm is left close enough to the Virgina to make its way toward the egg.  Life will find a way.

There is all ways that one in a million chance as in the woman that had her uterus removed.  The baby with no womb to grow in somehow attached the umbilical cord to her bowel and grew in her body.

I find it interesting that God chose Joseph to raise His son.  We spend all this time looking at the Mother of Jesus and totally forget Joseph who raised and educated a child that he felt was not his own.

The Nazca lines, and don't forget the huge Trident carved into rock near that area. Why and what was the symbolism or need to carve this trident in such an area.??

[Ptarmigan]

Without proof?? There is more proof that aliens have visited Earth than the proof that God exists. Perhaps God is an alien?? If one considers that God made Adam "from dirt", that seems to me to suggest some sort of genetic manipulation. With Eve being made from his rib suggests some form of cloning. In the books of Daniel and Ezekiel, spacecraft were often referred to. Perhaps not in the way we'd describe them today, but in an archaic sense. Then there's the Saqqara bird, a "model" so to say, of an aircraft that predates the first aircraft by Centuries, if not a millenia or more. With an upscaled model being tested in an airflow chamber, the model possessed all the characteristics of modern aircraft. When Christ ascended into the heavens, what was that all about?? What about the "virgin birth" of Jesus?? Was that an alien abduction and impregnation?? I do not deny God or Christ, but these are questions that I continually contemplate.

If airplanes existed millenia, their wreckage long be gone because metals often break down over time. That is likely why we rarely find anything that is +10,000 years ago. The Bible is written in a very poetic nature. It is vague because of the authors of the Bible wrote it that way. They are writing in codes.

[vesta111]

If airplanes existed millenia, their wreckage long be gone because metals often break down over time. That is likely why we rarely find anything that is +10,000 years ago. The Bible is written in a very poetic nature. It is vague because of the authors of the Bible wrote it that way. They are writing in codes.

Just found this Ptar, but who is to say that aliens used physical craft to travel the universe.

Only way I can see for us to go into space is for us humans to never leave home and just send out our unmanned craft to to explore and send information back to us.

Our physical bodies were never designed to go off planet and the oceans on this planet are designed to  not allow us to their greatest depths.


So here is Stephen Hawking's now worried about an Aliens encounter.


He cannot believe that aliens have human body's, brains or in any way our physical attributes.


He must be speaking of spores or germs that can harm us.

At one time man had to write in code else the church would burn them at the stake.     Before them were the men that simply wrote about what they saw and put their own interruption on it.


Where did men like Pythagoras come from, Socrates, Plato and others of their time that knew about the Atoms that make up our world thousands of years before we ever thought of them.?

The one in a million men that were mathematicians in a world of people that counted on their fingers ?

Why were these men able to see things others did not, how did they come to their conclusions yet later on in history men had to hid the knowledge or perish.?

[vesta111]

Just found this Ptar, but who is to say that aliens used physical craft to travel the universe.

Only way I can see for us to go into space is for us humans to never leave home and just send out our unmanned craft to to explore and send information back to us.

Our physical bodies were never designed to go off planet and the oceans on this planet are designed to  not allow us to their greatest depths.


So here is Stephen Hawking's now worried about an Aliens encounter.


He cannot believe that aliens have human body's, brains or in any way our physical attributes.


He must be speaking of spores or germs that can harm us.

At one time man had to write in code else the church would burn them at the stake.     Before them were the men that simply wrote about what they saw and put their own interruption on it.


Where did men like Pythagoras come from, Socrates, Plato and others of their time that knew about the Atoms that make up our world thousands of years before we ever thought of them.?

The one in a million men that were mathematicians in a world of people that counted on their fingers ?

Why were these men able to see things others did not, how did they come to their conclusions yet later on in history men had to hid the knowledge or perish.?

BTW check out the Plato and math on this forum I sent and no one wanted to discuss it.

[Endora]

Anti-theists scoff at the notion of demons and angels.

But many of them sway with rapt romanticism at notions of diembodied extra-terrastrial intelligences visiting the earth and guiding its inhabitants.

Uh... no... most atheists are pretty staunchly against conspiracy theory type nonsense. I have no idea what atheists you hang around with. Probably strawmen built up from that one Richard Dawkins quote people take too seriously/out of context.

They're certainly open to the possibility of extra-terrestrials, since well, it's fairly likely.

See, this is a symptom of the fact that you obviously have little social experience with the people you're denouncing. You're assigning to them an attribute that would get laughed at if you brought it up with them yet no doubt complain when you yourself are misrepresented.