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Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« on: January 15, 2010, 08:15:00 PM »
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Why isn't Brown releasing his internals?
   
I'm trying to game theory out his motives. Any thoughts?

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5. My theory is that he has peaked and that the newest stuff is closer
   
or shows him losing.

Why would you release stuff that counters the good stuff from so-called unbiased sources.

Coakley probably released hers to get the troops motivated.

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6. That is my interpretation as well.
   
It has the biggest payoff with the minimum risk for him.

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    One tells me that the most recent internal poll of the Scott Brown campaign shows the Republican winning by… 11 percentage points. I’m getting the sense that the folks hearing this are almost a little incredulous, but it seems every demographic and key group is breaking to Brown in the past day or two. For weeks, Brown and everyone around him has said they will campaign and work as if they’re 30 percentage points down. But it seems like the campaign has been one Coakley stumble after another, and you figure that would eventually start effecting the numbers. According to that measure, it’s starting to break heavily in Brown’s direction… but we’ll have to see what the final few days bring…

    One problem passed on by one of my sources is the sense that Coakley is increasingly seen as a de facto incumbent, what with Democrats controlling the White House, both Houses of Congress, and for that matter, the entire state government in Massachusetts. A frustrated voter fed up with the status quo can’t easily communicate their impatience and anger by giving the nod to the party that is currently running the show.

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 09:06:43 PM »
The blue grass/green sky world they paint for themselves. :mental:

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 09:24:26 PM »
I think that Obumbler will have the same track record the Clenis did with helping fellow democrats.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 09:24:41 PM »
Browns internals say +11

which would be nuts crazy cool

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 09:48:42 PM »
I think that Obumbler will have the same track record the Clenis did with helping fellow democrats.

The Clenis will be hard to top.  There are players in MLB who'll OD on 'roids trying to get in the same ballpark as the Clenis' .850 - .950 average.

Ya never know, though.  Lord Zero is clean and artikilate, fairly light-skinned for a negro and of course uses the negro dialect only when he chooses to.  Perhaps he has what it takes to give the 'First Black President' a run for his money.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2010, 11:05:30 PM »
The Clenis will be hard to top. 
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 05:21:13 AM »
The Clenis will be hard to top.  There are players in MLB who'll OD on 'roids trying to get in the same ballpark as the Clenis' .850 - .950 average.

Ya never know, though.  Lord Zero is clean and artikilate, fairly light-skinned for a negro and of course uses the negro dialect only when he chooses to.  Perhaps he has what it takes to give the 'First Black President' a run for his money.

The Obamessiah does have a track record.  Didn't he stump for Jon Corzine?  We know how well that worked out . . .  :loser: :fuelfire:
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2010, 09:49:10 AM »
The Obamessiah does have a track record.  Didn't he stump for Jon Corzine?  We know how well that worked out . . .  :loser: :fuelfire:

IIRC, he gave the "dominus opus" blessing to that twit in Virginia, too.  Appears that Little Lord Zero has all the coattails of a manx kitten.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2010, 09:59:18 AM »
IIRC, he gave the "dominus opus" blessing to that twit in Virginia, too.  Appears that Little Lord Zero has all the coattails of a manx kitten.

I don't remember if he weighed in on NY-23.  If he did, his LA (Losing Average) is .667; if he didn't, well, then . . . 1.000!
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 10:09:29 AM »
I don't remember if he weighed in on NY-23.  If he did, his LA (Losing Average) is .667; if he didn't, well, then . . . 1.000!

I have yet to hear who is running from this district,already have gotten Scott Murphy fliers and he is trying to sound like a Republican.

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 10:11:51 AM »
I have yet to hear who is running from this district,already have gotten Scott Murphy fliers and he is trying to sound like a Republican.

Unfortunately, I'm on Murphy's email list. :banghead:
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2010, 10:23:21 AM »
Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals?....maybe he doesn't have to if he doesn't want to.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2010, 01:41:33 PM »
Browns internals say +11

which would be nuts crazy cool

Was just reading on FR that Intrade has him up, completely flipped from before.

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2010, 04:16:31 PM »
Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals?....maybe he doesn't have to if he doesn't want to.

That was my first thought when seeing this campfire.

He's paying for his "internals;" they're his property.

And so he's got a right to do with them what he wishes to do with them.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 04:19:21 PM »
That was my first thought when seeing this campfire.

He's paying for his "internals;" they're his property.

And so he's got a right to do with them what he wishes to do with them.

And if I had internals that showed I was looking at throwing down a serious beatdown come Tuesday would I release the numbers to motivate the other side?

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2010, 05:59:29 PM »
And if I had internals that showed I was looking at throwing down a serious beatdown come Tuesday would I release the numbers to motivate the other side?

Exactly - there is no need to frenzy up the Democrat-filled hornets nest. just let it be.

I would say 'Our Side' is buzzing with motivation, and even a Gaia worshiping hippie I  know is voting Brown. All we need is a disgusting snowstorm to depress the already depressed Dems , to put icing on the cake.

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010, 08:08:07 AM »
That was my first thought when seeing this campfire.

He's paying for his "internals;" they're his property.

And so he's got a right to do with them what he wishes to do with them.

As a former campaign worker you only release internal information if you think you will get some benefit.  Not speaking on a partisan basis as I'm sure campaign operations are pretty universal.  If you are up the weekend before the election in your internal polling you lie to your supporters and tell them it is very close.  The last thing you want is troops staying home on election day because they think you've won.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2010, 08:46:13 AM »
Gosh, maybe that's why they call them 'Internals?'   :thatsright:

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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010, 08:53:38 AM »
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2010, 09:04:07 AM »
Ack posted on wrong thread lol
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2010, 09:07:02 AM »
I fail to see why people like UGP and bibo dont see that the more you give people something for nothing the less they will want to get up off their asses to work.

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2010, 09:31:56 AM »
As a former campaign worker you only release internal information if you think you will get some benefit.  Not speaking on a partisan basis as I'm sure campaign operations are pretty universal.  If you are up the weekend before the election in your internal polling you lie to your supporters and tell them it is very close.  The last thing you want is troops staying home on election day because they think you've won.

Id have to agree with that - which is why I'm still wondering about the release of Coakley's trailing numbers, unless as is suspected, the point was to get Obama up here. In her case, I look at it as a Hail Mary pass.

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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2010, 09:34:49 AM »
I fail to see why people like UGP and bibo dont see that the more you give people something for nothing the less they will want to get up off their asses to work.

Not really that type of an issue, it is managing information.  You leak information you want others to see.  Coakley showed her internals because she wants democrats from CT and NH to flood into the state to save her ass.  My guess judging by what I've been reading and hearing, she didn't really plan that great of a GOTV effort.  I expect to be reading about what a disorganized cluster it was on Wednesday morning.

Brown was an underdog so he probably has one of the GOP's top GOTV directors already in place and a plan has been formulated and is being implemented for 3-4 weeks.

The mechanics of a campaign are not partisan.  I'm pretty sure the GOP operates the exact way the DNC does in that regards.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2010, 09:46:05 AM »
Id have to agree with that - which is why I'm still wondering about the release of Coakley's trailing numbers, unless as is suspected, the point was to get Obama up here. In her case, I look at it as a Hail Mary pass.

Well everything else she's done looks like she's been hoarding campaign cash because she assumed wrongly in a bad economic climate and her being the key vote on a bill that is unpopular in all circles that she was going to walk away with this thing after the primary.  In other times, that would be a safe assumption.

Leaking her internals also will give her a last minute appeal to democrats from neighboring states to come in and aid her.  Corzine did the same thing back in October.  She probably skimped on her GOTV director and needed the party bigs to come in.  It doesn't really matter, she probably also did a poor job doing IDs before.  She might get a lot of bodies to help her, but she might end up driving Brown supporters out to vote because a lot of democrats and left leaning independents are unhappy of the disaster HCR was and the lack of action on banking interest who are one of the causes of the economic situation.   

Full disclosure, I'm a democrat that hates the HCR bill and scratches my head with the administrations decisions this past year.  I really don't care who wins this race.
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Re: Why Isn't Brown Releasing His Internals
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Why isn't Brown releasing his internals?

Why do Liberals never release their internals in political polls?

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