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Offline LC EFA

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What do you have in that bag.
« on: January 07, 2010, 03:31:56 AM »
Bug-out bags and boxes. What you have and what you want.

Truth be told my bugout boxes are the same as my long range camping / bush boxes. The lot can be loaded onto my pickup in a matter of minutes.

There is a "camp box" which contains most of the fundamentals of the campsite and kitchen for a group of 2-4 people.

There is a personal box which contains the personal gear for both people travelling in the vehicle, including ammunition.

Last is the toolbox - which has obviously tools and recovery equipment in it.

The "camp box" contains :

Shelter :
   16 heavy tent pegs (1/2"X18") , 8 double ended tentropes , 1lb lump hammer
   8 Telescopic Square poles (5' closed - 9' open) 1" section.
   2 X 100feet 1/2" poly rope
   30'X30' heavy poly tarpaulin
   10'X15' heavy poly tarpaulin
   30X30 heavy plastic groundsheet
   Single Queen bed size mosquito netting
   2 "man" tent.

Kitchen :
   2 X plastic chopping board.
   Long BBQ spatula, Long BBQ tongs, Short Serving tongs
   6 X sets eating utensils - S/S (meat knife , fork , spoon ), 3 Teaspoons , serving spoon , potato masher
   Large Kitchen kinfe, Small kitchen knife, Filliting knife
   Diamond Steel ,Ceramic Steel, Oil stone (Lansky kit)
   4X Small S/S bowl, 4X Large S/S bowl, 2 very large S/S bowls , 8 S/S plates
   6X reusable temperature resistant plastic cups, 6X S/S cups, 4X S/S Double wall mugs
   Small , medium and large dutch ovens with removable S/S racks
   Small and large cast iron metal handle fry pans
   Pot lifter.
   1L and 4 liter pressed aluminum pots (known here as a billy)
   2X 20 liter plastic tubs
   Bottle opener
   Can opener
   
Lighting
   12-240V 600W inverter
   240V light string with CFL bulbs - 8 spare bulbs.
   2X 240v Waterproof full length fluro lightsticks.

Cooking
    Aerosol style portable gas stove - 6 spare cans gas

Misc
   300meters binding cord
   50 Large cable ties
   Large can mosquito repellent
   50 pack mosquito coils with container
   6 Rolls TP
   Washing up detergent
   50 Long matches
   10X 50pack matches
   5X bath soap
   Roll of garbage bags
   Folding latrine seat
   20L plastic "solar shower" bag and fittings.
   Water purification (Chlorine) tablets
   Potassium Permanganate crystals.
   Dustpan brush
   Roll of disposable kitchen wipes
   Scourer
   Pot Brush.
   50 meter roll Aluminum foil

I wants :

None for this section.

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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 05:44:52 AM »
Bugout Toolbox (also vehicle toolbox) - Includes loose of vehicle mounted tools.

Vehicle Recovery bag (snatch strap, tow strap, tree protector, rated shackles, winch doubler / pulley, gloves )
Hatchet
Hacksaw (X2 spare blades)
2LB Broad Axe
Bush Saw (X1 spare blade)
Full metric and imperial socket and spanner sets to 1 1/2 inch
Breaker Bar
Crowbar
Chainsaw , Bar oil , 2 stroke oil , Files and file guide , spare chain , felling wedges
Machete (Actually something called a Cane Knife - but used for similar tasks)
Long handle shovel
Multimeter
Solder , Butane soldering iron , wire , spare fuses , spare battery terminal
Tire lever
Folding wheel brace
12V Tire compressor
Tire Pressure gauge and fast deflater
High temperature sealant
WD-40
Long nose Pliers
Side Cutters
Regular pliers
Thread Tape
Insulation tape
Fencing wire
Hi-lift jack

I wants -

Tire pliers and bead breaker
Puncture repair kit too off-road standards
Spare wheel studs
Exhaust Bog bag
Hand winch and cables / accessories
Collapsing sand anchor for winching

 
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 07:39:30 AM »
Bug out box for the unprepared: many guns and lots of ammo...takeover WAL-MART.
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 09:43:09 AM »
I don't bug out.  People from Boston and Manch-Vegas bug out to me.  Canned food and shotguns.  I'm good.
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 10:05:50 AM »
What if your vehicle doesn't work (for whatever reason) and you have to carry everything on your back?? What then??
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 10:33:14 AM »
Quote from: Thor on January 07, 2010, 10:05:50 AM
What if your vehicle doesn't work (for whatever reason) and you have to carry everything on your back?? What then??

Just hit a car dealership.
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 10:36:36 AM »
Quote from: Thor on January 07, 2010, 10:05:50 AM
What if your vehicle doesn't work (for whatever reason) and you have to carry everything on your back?? What then??

You capture some (wink-wink) local "donkeys" to pull the wagon. Then shoot and eat them when you get where you're going....remember to eat the white ones last ....experts say they taste funny, you know.

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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 03:30:44 PM »
Quote from: Thor on January 07, 2010, 10:05:50 AM
What if your vehicle doesn't work (for whatever reason) and you have to carry everything on your back?? What then??

Should that happen then I'm unprepared - and deserve to lose.

Seriously though -

I have a camelbak backpack which has a first aid kit, waterproof matches, wire saw , water purification tablets, some barley sugar cubes, some muesli bars, 2 10'X10' disposable painting drop sheets (shelter) , some cord, and a bottle of soluble multivitamens in it.

Added to that is my hunting belt - which has two large knives - one a stabber and one a cutter - a couple of folding knives and a Gerber multi tool.

Load up all the ammo in the house , grab the tacklebox , the rifle and the fishing rod and maybe a couple of other bits and pieces from the house.

Climate is warm - hot all year round so no need to deal with cold weather issues (which I'm not real learned on). Plenty of fresh water - and plenty of forage meat. Once away from the populated areas there's enough forage fruits and meats to sustain life at least for a while.

Quality of life just isn't the same without the 3/4 ton or so of gear I'm used to having for extended trips away from civilization.


 
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 05:24:09 PM »
Guns and ammo
Tent Cabela's alaska guide
Sleeping bags Good ones slumberjack -15
Trioxine lots of it
Mess kit
firestarter flint
Knives
lots of spices
water filters 2 msr waterworks
5 gal colapisable container
first aid
flash lights good little ones
good change of clothes
as many mre's as I can carry
all packed in 2 back packs and a duffel
yamaha 400 4 wheel drive and Ford ranger 4 wd w/30 extra gal gas
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 05:35:23 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 07, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
Just hit a car dealership.

See the new thread I just posted? heh....
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2010, 03:02:38 PM »
Already being in the country, I'm not planning on going anywhere.  Of course since Plan A doesn't always work out perfectly, everyone able-bodied has a backpack with the essentials for three days, which includes zeroed survival firearms with appropriate ammo and cleaning supplies (Not warfighting gear), three days of compact and high-nutrition food, various fire, signal, light and aid supplies, a poncho and liner, minor tools and sharp things including a compact E-tool, a fishing kit including a gigging fork head, a metal pot, pan, cup, two full GI canteens, and an Ontario machete in a plastic sheath.  There's one more bag in one of the trucks with a small tent, larger pioneer tools, climbing rope, a heavy-duty aid kit, and other goodies. 
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2010, 08:30:49 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 10, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
Already being in the country, I'm not planning on going anywhere.  Of course since Plan A doesn't always work out perfectly, everyone able-bodied has a backpack with the essentials for three days, which includes zeroed survival firearms with appropriate ammo and cleaning supplies (Not warfighting gear), three days of compact and high-nutrition food, various fire, signal, light and aid supplies, a poncho and liner, minor tools and sharp things including a compact E-tool, a fishing kit including a gigging fork head, a metal pot, pan, cup, two full GI canteens, and an Ontario machete in a plastic sheath.  There's one more bag in one of the trucks with a small tent, larger pioneer tools, climbing rope, a heavy-duty aid kit, and other goodies. 

All this is male thinking, and is solo.  No wife, girlfriend or kids for this---this is all about you.

Unfortunately few family's of more then 2 have any chance to survive.

Any Man Woman, Man Man or Woman and Women have to protect anyone other then themselves the odds of their survival drop drastically.

 
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2010, 08:46:11 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on January 11, 2010, 08:30:49 AM
All this is male thinking, and is solo.  No wife, girlfriend or kids for this---this is all about you.

Unfortunately few family's of more then 2 have any chance to survive.

Any Man Woman, Man Man or Woman and Women have to protect anyone other then themselves the odds of their survival drop drastically.

 

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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 09:00:55 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on January 11, 2010, 08:30:49 AM
All this is male thinking, and is solo.  No wife, girlfriend or kids for this---this is all about you.

Unfortunately few family's of more then 2 have any chance to survive.

Any Man Woman, Man Man or Woman and Women have to protect anyone other then themselves the odds of their survival drop drastically.

 

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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 11:17:31 AM »
Thor, I have to say your reply was a bit more diplomatic than mine, but I think we're on the same wavelength here.   :-)

Just for the record, though, I don't think she even understood what she was over-reacting to.  My Plan A is to sit tight and protect the homestead, it's pretty hard to get more family-oriented than that.  But, as we all know (Well, all but one apparently), 'Plan A' does not always work out perfectly.  That's why I have the packs for everyone able (Not just males) to grab and move out if it has to come to that.
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2010, 11:23:37 AM »
I just noticed that no one, on this particular thread anyway, has mentioned any type of communication device, such as ham or cb radio.  Thoughts?  I am specifically trying to set up my "bag" so-to-speak, with things that will not be affected adversely in a loss of electrical power. 
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2010, 12:08:59 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 12, 2010, 11:17:31 AM
Thor, I have to say your reply was a bit more diplomatic than mine, but I think we're on the same wavelength here.   :-)

Just for the record, though, I don't think she even understood what she was over-reacting to.  My Plan A is to sit tight and protect the homestead, it's pretty hard to get more family-oriented than that.  But, as we all know (Well, all but one apparently), 'Plan A' does not always work out perfectly.  That's why I have the packs for everyone able (Not just males) to grab and move out if it has to come to that.

Obviously not just males, what would be the point otherwise?
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2010, 12:10:12 PM »
CB radios are the most common. Everyone can use those without a license. Ham radios reach further, but those require a license to own and operate, at least right now. The test is quite difficult for those who don't know electronics. The problem with those is when electricity goes out, they will only operate for a short time on battery back up or battery power. Eventually, without electricity, those, too, will die out. For the short term, I'd opt for a CB radio. Then again, it all depends on what causes the disaster. If it's an EMP burst, then most electronics won't work, period. Even automobiles with computers will be dead. That means one really needs a pre 78 automobile or truck.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2010, 12:15:57 PM »
Quote from: Thor on January 12, 2010, 12:10:12 PM
CB radios are the most common. Everyone can use those without a license. Ham radios reach further, but those require a license to own and operate, at least right now. The test is quite difficult for those who don't know electronics. The problem with those is when electricity goes out, they will only operate for a short time on battery back up or battery power. Eventually, without electricity, those, too, will die out. For the short term, I'd opt for a CB radio. Then again, it all depends on what causes the disaster. If it's an EMP burst, then most electronics won't work, period. Even automobiles with computers will be dead. That means one really needs a pre 78 automobile or truck.

Yup.  That was my deduction as well.  Vehicle was alot easier than communication.
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2010, 12:17:49 PM »
IassaFTots, for me, that one's on the borderline of good idea vs. one more thing in a full pack.  If I lived in hurricane or floodplain country where reception was good and the major risk of disaster was a super-hurricane, 500 year flood, or storm surge, and evacuation was a more-typical preparedness issue, I'd be a lot more likely to add it (Probably the lightest multi-power-including-hand-crank type I could get).

The kind of disasters for which I would have to head for the woods from my homestead are more like the kind of things for which there isn't likely to be a recall message, or anything much to stay tuned-in to hear, for a very long time, though, so vehicle AM/FM radios will do for lesser problems.  There isn't really anyone I foresee wanting to reach badly enough to merit a transmitter, and advertising one's presence intentionally or not with transmissions has an awful lot of down-side potential, depending on the scenario. 
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2010, 12:36:03 PM »
Being in the 'burbs of Albany, my wife and I actually have given this some consideration.  We haven't really done anything about it yet, other than to discuss that we'd meet in a recognizable place in Albany, then go (home) from there, and try to get our daughter out of day care . . . which, if things were starting to get really bad, we wouldn't be anywhere near Albany in the first place.  If both our cars still had functional electrical systems (in an EMP situation, that would not be the case), we'd be able to go somewhere--but where?  We don't really have an alternate location to go to yet.  My feeling would be that we'd try to get to the apartment, and quickly organize the residents into some sort of functioning "committee of vigilance," or something like that.

SurvivalBlog.com has a fair amount of good stuff on topics like this.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2010, 12:54:35 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 12, 2010, 12:17:49 PM
  There isn't really anyone I foresee wanting to reach badly enough to merit a transmitter, and advertising one's presence intentionally or not with transmissions has an awful lot of down-side potential, depending on the scenario. 

That was along my way of thinking.  I was thinking about something, like a CB, in the event the SHTF, and you needed immediate communication with someone to circle the wagons or something like that.  But, after the fact, unless there was room, it really wouldn't be needed, and yeah, there is a good chance that am/fm, might just work for info gathering, as needed.  The one thing I know for sure is that I know where to meet my peeps. 
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Re: What do you have in that bag.
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2010, 01:00:28 PM »
It would be nice to live in a very rural area with a bunch of like-minded folks. Then you can even take turns watching the road.
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2010, 01:54:29 PM »
Quote from: FGL on January 12, 2010, 01:00:28 PM
It would be nice to live in a very rural area with a bunch of like-minded folks. Then you can even take turns watching the road.

Kind of like where I live. It's a neighborhood close to river & lake that has two roads in. My intention would be to gather the neighborhood together, establish perimeter watches and restrict access to the neighborhood to those that live here. (ID required type deal) Guests would be allowed in, but the patrols would need to be notified by the resident inviting the guest in advance. Otherwise, no entry and lethal force would be utilized. (in a SHTF situation). Plenty of good stuff in the immediate area, so folks could survive in relative peace.
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2010, 01:59:06 PM »
Quote from: Thor on January 12, 2010, 01:54:29 PM
Kind of like where I live. It's a neighborhood close to river & lake that has two roads in. My intention would be to gather the neighborhood together, establish perimeter watches and restrict access to the neighborhood to those that live here. (ID required type deal) Guests would be allowed in, but the patrols would need to be notified by the resident inviting the guest in advance. Otherwise, no entry and lethal force would be utilized. (in a SHTF situation). Plenty of good stuff in the immediate area, so folks could survive in relative peace.

Sounds like a plan.
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