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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/78425.html

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Details of the events were sketchy, but officials said the shooting involved two men with M-16 rifles and began about 1:30 p.m. Central time at Howze Theater on the base, then moved to the sports complex, where the graduation ceremony honroing soldiers who had obtained degrees from extension schools was scheduled to begin at 2 p.m

?? Does that mean anything or nothing yet? Pardon my ignorence.
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Aaaaargh.

Picking nits here, in a really serious subject, but it's a pet peeve of mine:

ATTENTION ON DECK - especially to the asshat media

Be it known that the U.S. Army refers to its installations as posts. Exceptions do occur in foreign lands, but in the continental US, Army installations are posts.

U.S. Marines, U.S. Navy, U.S. Coast Guard and U.S. Air Force refer to their installations as bases.

That is all.

I thought I was the only one anal about that fact :heart:
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This is right up the road (in Texas vernacular) from where I live.....about 75 miles and the report we are getting on our local radio coverage is that there were THREE people.  The radio news people have been dancing around it without saying actually it IS a terrorist attack of some kind but it DOES seem strange if THREE men were involved. You sadly have deranged people from time to time going on killing sprees and MAYBE there might be two people involved - although it isn't likely. But THREE deranged people acting together?

My question is...If they ARE terrorists of some kind. How in the name of all that is holy did they manage to get on a MILITARY BASE? The radio report said they were in military fatigues.

I also learned something I did not know. Did you know that Ft. Hood is THE largest military installation in the WORLD? Must admit I did not realize that.

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« Last Edit: November 05, 2009, 03:28:33 PM by Lady Texan »

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Well, there is no place in America with fewer people per capita packing, than a military installation.  Cops only.
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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/78425.html

?? Does that mean anything or nothing yet? Pardon my ignorence.

No. It's fairly easy to obtain an AR-15. A lot of details have been left out. Were they firing full auto? Burst? Was it an AR-15 or a Carb-15 (retractable or fixed stock)?
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There was a graduation ceremony today, so a lot of people would have been coming and going. That makes it look planned.


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Fort Hood spokeswoman: 1 shooter in custody, at least 2 gunmen believed involved in attack.


http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2009/11/05/one_shooter_in_custody_associa.html



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up to 30 are injured.

Fox clarified some time ago that the Army has "posts"...the rest of the military has "bases"....
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No. It's fairly easy to obtain an AR-15. A lot of details have been left out. Were they firing full auto? Burst? Was it an AR-15 or a Carb-15 (retractable or fixed stock)?

Thank you sir. I know nothing more gunwise, only what was at the link.

I did here from my local FOX station that the FBI has ruled out terrorism. (reported by Cavuto when FOX News broke into the network... I don't have cable)

Hannity just said, the POTUS will speak shortly.
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Cavuto just said that the death toll is now nine.
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Aaaaargh.

Picking nits here, in a really serious subject, but it's a pet peeve of mine:

ATTENTION ON DECK - especially to the asshat media

Be it known that the U.S. Army refers to its installations as posts. Exceptions do occur in foreign lands, but in the continental US, Army installations are posts.

U.S. Marines, U.S. Navy, U.S. Coast Guard and U.S. Air Force refer to their installations as bases.

That is all.

 :thatsright:  Good God!  Was that me?  It was me.  And I KNOW BETTER!!!!  I am going to blame it on a frantic post, while talking on the phone.  OMG.  Mea Culpa.   :bow: 

That pisses me off, and I did it.  (I also have the same issue about half-staff/half-mast.)
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UPDATE: Tom Elia reporting that "shooting started at the House Theater and then moved to an athletic complex."



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Twitter link of all things but it's NBC's Chuck Todd...

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More from NBC's Pete Williams: US official says early reports are the man in custody is in the military, late 30s, with officer rank.
http://twitter.com/chucktodd/statuses/5460581439

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A LTG from Hood is now saying 12 dead, one shooter dead, two other suspects in custody (on FNC).

The general went on to say that all of the suspects were/are soldiers.
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I spent 4+ years at Hood. This is sad.
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up to 30 are injured.

Fox clarified some time ago that the Army has "posts"...the rest of the military has "bases"....

Thanks, deb. At least Fox is paying attention.

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12 KIA  31 WIA.  One shooter dead...two others in custody.

Just damn.
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12 KIA  31 WIA.  One shooter dead...two others in custody.

Just damn.

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A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name. The official said the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.
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al-Qaeda has been trying for years to infiltrate operatives into the armed services.
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The suspected gunman was identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. He was killed and two other suspects have been apprehended, Lt. Robert W. Cone said.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938



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Drudge names shooter
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Shooter: Major Malik Nadal Hasan...


However I checked link and did not see the name there...
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938

However, the ABC link from Drudge is a page with a dozen or more sub links.

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It was there. It's just that all that was there was a name. (for now)
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Why did FBI rule out terrorism so quickly?
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Why did FBI rule out terrorism so quickly?

It's terrorism whether it's domestic or foreign.

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