SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-08-09 08:44 AM
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Where do jobs "come from"?
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 08:49 AM by SoCalDem
There are the jobs "provided" by mega corporations (which are contracting like a fully dilated pregnant woman these days). These jobs are in tiers
...building/making the actual product
...packaging the product
...selling the product
..."managing" the people doing the above tasks
Your missing an entire legion of people here. People have to verify the product and transport the product, people need accountants to make sure the governments arcane tax syste is properly imposed, marketing experts need to review why someone might purchase a product, bankers who help finance the operations, and so on.
There are jobs provided by small family businesses (those are usually reserved for family-members only, and are often without much/any real pay)
Family owned business are usually willing to hire anyone who will work, regarding they have the work to do.
There are "farm" jobs, which are low pay, hard work and pretty much on-call 24-7. (also usually reserved for family only)
No, you just think those jobs are only fit for brown people.
There are "off the books jobs" (usually in landscaping/construction/painting/flooring/tiling, etc, and are negotiated and often the people doing the jobs, take a lot less than they should, to GET the job)
LOL! Off the book! A landscaping or construction company and the neighborhood teenager looking to make a few bucks are not the same thing.
There are government jobs..federal/ state/ county/ municipal.. (these jobs are great to have, but are tied to budget cutting, and can be gone in a heartbeat, or with an administration change)
That's because even government has to do a cost/benefit analysis DUmmie, and you are no benefit.
There are retail/service jobs ( these are very sensitive to "the bottom line", and are often seasonal, and rarely have set-schedules or any benefits to speak of)
Just like any other job, bust your ass, and move up the ladder, and then you aren't so seasonal.
There are "professional" jobs that require lots of "pull" and degrees to get, but once IN the job, many involve long hours at desks, pushing piles of papers around, and composing at a computer.
Heaven help, you might actually have to work, rather than surf Democratic Underground all day.
There are "technical" jobs, that also require significant education/degrees to obtain.
Mostly they require a brain. Granted a brain that seems to be wired a certain way, but a brain will do.
Jobs are totally reliant upon someone else being on the "other" end of that job..on the receiving end.
Not always. When I do work on my basement to finish it, I am the customer who will ultimately benefit, how does that fit in your calculations.
Doctors need patients
Of which there is no shortage, that is what makes medical a good field to be in, on top of what makes it awful.
Salesmen need customers
And the good ones will find they still have customers.
Agricultural workers need customers with money to spend on the food they grow
Anyone noticing shortages in the grocery stores?
Producers of goods need buyers of goods
Purveyors of services need people who want/need that service
Then they should be the best. I've never seen the best in any given occupation worry about work.
Government jobs even need people on the receiving end of their labors. TSA people must have travelers to search & wand... Mail carriers must have people living in houses with mail boxes...Teachers need students
No, the government is perverse. It would just as soon pay wand wavers and teachers to stand around, it justifies the budget.
Our government is faced with a big ole dilemma. Propping up consumerism, back to the 70%-service bubble we have become used to, is no solution, because so many people are already out of the bubble, flat on their backs, in debt, and jobless. If they found a job tomorrow, they would still be down and out for a few years (or more).
I think your gonna find a lot of people that weren't knocked down don't care about the idiots that were. People paying attention saw this coming 18 - 24 months out DUmmie, and they started preparing.
Creating "new" businesses out of thin air is not a solution either, because the people who have a job , with insurance benefits cannot afford to "go it alone" and start a business that will most likely fail, and will provide their families with NO benefits. People who have the time, and who are already out of work, have no money to start a business.
Incorrect. A new business at this time starts with the initial benefit of depressed wages.
I don't see a "solution", because we seem to have forgotten the basics of supply & demand.
No, you just don't understand how a global economy functions.
Somehow our businesses morphed into behemoth corporations with more layers of complexity and debt than a $50K wedding cake. Everything became all about "the market" and "the street", and nothing is about the actual products and/or customers anymore.
Nope, you tick off your consumers and the street will see to it that you pay. Just like always.
No amount of "stimulus" seems to alleviate the problem. Giving money to the banks only made them more solvent (and they still hid their bad stuff..and still have it). Giving money to repair infrastructure helps some, but it focuses on a small sliver of the economy. Giving money to the people does not even work, since many use(d) it to repay debts for stuff they already consumers (sometimes years ago).
The government has never successfully stopped a recession, it can however prolong it.
Creating "green jobs" is great for the future, but people are going to be reluctant to put solar panels on a house that's a month shy of foreclosure.
The Spanish tried it. It fried their economy.
Propping up the auto industry does little, if people are afraid/too broke to buy a new car.
You mean handing over two companies to a behemoth union that brought them to their knees?
We need a serious "Daddy-lays-it-all-out" heart-to-heart talk about just how much trouble we are in, and how we have to completely change the way we do things.
He ain't my Daddy, or my leader, he's a know nothing jackass, and he's all yours. I will continue to ignore him.
We still have people alive, who have lived this way, and who know how to do it. We have the capacity to change our economy, but politicians know that their jobs are on the line if they actually vote for changes we need, instead of changes we think we want.
Still got the whole 1932 depression porn going in your mind.
