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The 2nd Protects the 1st and Vice Versa
« on: May 29, 2009, 06:03:16 AM »
First Amendment Rights Trampled by Pittsburgh College after Student Advocates for Concealed Carry of Firearms on Campus
May 27, 2009

FIRE Press Release

PITTSBURGH, May 27, 2009—A student who wants to form a gun-rights group at the Community College of Allegheny County (CCAC) has been threatened with disciplinary action for her efforts. Student Christine Brashier has turned to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) for help after reporting that administrators banned her informational pamphlets, ordered her to destroy all copies of them, and told her that further "academic misconduct" would not be tolerated.

"CCAC has demonstrated a shocking lack of respect for the rights of free speech and free association," FIRE President Greg Lukianoff said. "Across the country, students are increasingly denied the First Amendment right to debate the Second Amendment. At CCAC, this censorship trend has reached a new low."

In April, CCAC student Christine Brashier created pamphlets to distribute to her classmates encouraging them to join her in forming a chapter of the national Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC) organization at CCAC. The handbill states that the group "supports the legalization of concealed carry by licensed individuals on college campuses." She personally distributed copies of the flyer, which identified her as a "Campus Leader" of the effort to start the chapter.

On April 24, Jean Snider, Student Development Specialist at CCAC's Allegheny Campus, summoned Brashier to a meeting that day with Snider and Yvonne Burns, Dean of Student Development. According to Brashier, the deans told Brashier that passing out her non-commercial pamphlets was prohibited as "solicitation." They told Brashier that trying to "sell" other students on the idea of the organization was prohibited.

CCAC also told Brashier that the college must pre-approve any distribution of literature to fellow students, and that pamphlets like hers would not be approved, even insisting that Brashier destroy all copies of her pamphlet.

Brashier reports that she was also interrogated about why she was distributing the pamphlets, whether she owned a licensed firearm and had ever brought it to campus (she has not), whether she carries a concealed firearm off campus, and whether she disagrees with the existing college policy banning concealed weapons on campus.

When Brashier stated that she wanted to be able to discuss this policy freely on campus, she was told to stop doing so without the permission of the CCAC administration. Dean Burns reportedly said, "You may want to discuss this topic but the college does not, and you cannot make us." Brashier was then told to cease all activities related to her involvement with SCCC at CCAC and that such "academic misconduct" would not be tolerated.

FIRE wrote CCAC President Alex Johnson on April 29 about these violations of Brashier's First Amendment speech and association rights, pointing out that her free speech in no way constituted solicitation, that CCAC is obligated to permit students to distribute literature and may not ban it on the basis of viewpoint or content, and that if CCAC recognizes student organizations at all, it must recognize an organization that supports concealed carry on campus. FIRE requested a response by May 13, and CCAC responded only by promising a reply from either CCAC or the Allegheny County Solicitor's office at some "reasonable" future time. Two weeks have passed since that promise, leaving the First Amendment in jeopardy at CCAC.

"If it is true that trying to 'sell' students on an idea is prohibited as a matter of solicitation, virtually the entire enterprise of the college is prohibited," said Robert Shibley, FIRE Vice President. "All persuasive speech would have to be pre-approved by the college. CCAC must end this unjustified assault on its students' rights immediately."

This incident is the worst and latest in a significant trend of punishing students for debating the Second Amendment in the wake of the 2007 Virginia Tech shootings. At Central Connecticut State University, after a student gave a class presentation about concealed firearms on campus, his professor called the police. At Hamline University, a student was suspended, pending a mental health evaluation, after he advocated in an e-mail for concealed weapons on campus. The SCCC chapter at Tarrant County College in Texas has been prohibited, two years in a row, from holding an "empty holster protest." At Lone Star College near Houston, the Young Conservatives of Texas were censored and threatened with de-recognition when they distributed a humorous flyer listing "Top Ten Gun Safety Tips." Lone Star's general counsel suggested that even a "mention of firearms and weapons" is inherently a "material interference" with the school's operations.

FIRE is a nonprofit educational foundation that unites civil rights and civil liberties leaders, scholars, journalists, and public intellectuals from across the political and ideological spectrum on behalf of individual rights, due process, freedom of expression, academic freedom, and rights of conscience at our nation's colleges and universities. FIRE's efforts to preserve liberty on campuses across America are described at thefire.org.

CONTACT:
Robert Shibley, Vice President, FIRE: 215-717-3473; robert@thefire.org
Alex Johnson, President, Community College of Allegheny County: 412-237-4413; ajohnson@ccac.edu
Elmer Haymon, President, Community College of Allegheny County-Allegheny Campus: 412-237-2543; ehaymon@ccac.edu 

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Re: The 2nd Protects the 1st and Vice Versa
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 10:10:08 AM »
I only have one thing to say:

A free people does not have to ask permission to exercise their rights, and a free people does not allow it's servants to intimidate the real sovereigns of this country into silence.
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Re: The 2nd Protects the 1st and Vice Versa
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 07:32:34 PM »
I only have one thing to say:

A free people does not have to ask permission to exercise their rights, and a free people does not allow it's servants to intimidate the real sovereigns of this country into silence.

Amen!
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Re: The 2nd Protects the 1st and Vice Versa
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 07:41:24 PM »
Amen!

IIRC, there was a young man suspended from some college last year for giving a speech on campus arguing to allow CC on campus.

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Re: The 2nd Protects the 1st and Vice Versa
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 08:08:02 PM »
IIRC, there was a young man suspended from some college last year for giving a speech on campus arguing to allow CC on campus.

That would not surprise me, considering what liberal cesspools that most colleges are these days.

About 15 years ago signed up for a college class in C++ programming.  Well the profressor started espousing his political views.  I stood up and asked him if I was in the right class.  He said "what do you mean"?

I told him that I thought this class was about computer programming, not poly-sci. 

Needless to say he didn't like my question and said as much.  I basically told him in front of the entire class that I was paying money out of my own pocket to learn computer programming and I didn't give a shit about his politcal views.  Several "older" aka over age 25 students murmured in agreement with me.  The professor liked that even less.

I told him we could go to the deans office and "sort it out".  He declined.

Ya see, I wasn't some impressionable 18 year old kid that could be intimidated by an authority figure.  I was a combat vet willing to fight for my ground.  He wasn't used to that.
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Re: The 2nd Protects the 1st and Vice Versa
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 09:43:01 PM »
I only have one thing to say:

A free people does not have to ask permission to exercise their rights, and a free people does not allow it's servants to intimidate the real sovereigns of this country into silence.

You know, when I was just a boot Seaman fresh out of Cape May in Uncle Sam's Confused Group, I was instructed to never use the phrase "No comment" should I ever have the misfortune to be speaking to the media as it could apparently be taken that I was hiding something.

I have no comment to ever having carried a concealed weapon on my school's campus.

I have no comment to will I continue to carry a concealed weapon on my school's campus.

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