General Electric and Raytheon caused Memorial Day...WTF?!?

[whiteguyPI]

hootinholler  (1000+ posts)        Mon May-25-09 11:38 AM
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Smoke em if ya got em. 
 This fine holiday finds a whole pork tenderloin on my counter warming to room temperature and waiting on the spice rub yet to be mixed and applied before its final journey into the smoker around noon. I have a maple deadfall branch out back which should provide enough sugar maple to cook several, let alone today’s entrée. Since I’m burning maple I should probably set up a smoke condenser and collect some liquid smoke for the spice cabinet, but I digress.

I mention today’s agenda only because it gives me a chance to reflect. It’s the slow burn sort of task that all else is worked around, laying in a small fire, half hourly temperature checks, monitoring the firebox, laying in soaked wood which makes better smoke and keeps the gasses a little cooler, the chamber a little moister, resisting the temptation of opening the main box especially when it smells so good. It gives time for the mind to slow which allows room for ideas to percolate.

One notion that I’m wrestling with this holiday is the nature of the holiday itself. We are to remember and honor our war dead. A subject worthy of our reflection if more of us would actually take the opportunity, but, the notion that entered my mind yesterday is how many of our war dead are not with us because of the military industrial complex rather than some just cause? Surely precious few in my lifetime, I can think of none really. Nearly 50 years of wars, skirmishes, actions, intercessions justified by the manipulation of the public’s fears and implemented over the objections of mothers.

Thousands of our young men killed, for what? The bottom line of General Electric? Maybe Raytheon? Sperry? General Dynamics?

Yes, I remember and honor those who died, but I’ll be damned if I honor why because it feels like we the people are little more than my cut of pork experiencing the slow burn.
-Hoot

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5716721

  These are some sick ****s over at the DUmp.  I knew thi day would be full of hatred for the military and those who made the ultimate sacrifice but this is beyond the pale.

The First Light a-hole shows up again to spew more vile hatred.

FirstLight  (1000+ posts)        Mon May-25-09 11:54 AM
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3. Ya, today's reflection has me feeling the burn for sure
 I am burning because of more than just the stupid justification thing... I am burning because of the crap we are STILL dealing with and the farce that somehow I have to HONOR these atrocities performed in my name...

If ANYone came into my neighborhood and tried to rape my child and held me at gunpoint, you can bet I'd be figuring out how to get them...until and unless I died trying...and then these are the people we are "DEFENDING" ourselves against? in what twisted universe?

so where is the "honor"...? long ago maybe and far away.
Seems like the only thing noble enough to fight or declare 'war' on may have been dragons, because the war & pillaging of the early 10th century was no better than today's behaviors in the huts of Afganistan or the homes of Iraq. And certainly horific things even happened to the natives here during the early colonnial days and skirmishes...

war is never honorable or good or right
and my stomach turns today, that even THIS has been reduced to a sale at macys and an excuse to BUY BUYBUY bbq sauce and briquets and beer...

yay, we partook in milliions of deaths on false pretense...all so we could "honor it" and enjoy our 3 day weekend

**** you hippy piece of shit!  You better hope that our paths never cross....EVER! 

[TheSarge]

 
 

[The Village Idiot]

The Germans slaughtered what? 20+ million people. I guess that was our fault too.

[TheSarge]

The Germans slaughtered what? 20+ million people. I guess that was our fault too.

Well you know...in the DUmmie way of thinking Conservatives...the Military and anyone who voted for Bush = the new NAZI Party.

So conversely...YES that was our fault as well.

[delilahmused]

If ANYone came into my neighborhood and tried to rape my child and held me at gunpoint, you can bet I'd be figuring out how to get them...until and unless I died trying...and then these are the people we are "DEFENDING" ourselves against? in what twisted universe?

Yeah, I thought it was pretty sick what the UN blue hats did to brown people too.

Cindie

[JohnnyReb]

Who knew that Ben Fanklin (kite, key, lightning) was the father of GE and that "rockets red glare" was caused by the military industrial complex made up of  "Raytheon? Sperry? General Dynamics?"

[diesel driver]

I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out just what the hell Hoot and "Light in the loafers" are saying, but I'm ready to give up....

DUmmies' stupidity gives me such a headache....

[The Village Idiot]

Well you know...in the DUmmie way of thinking Conservatives...the Military and anyone who voted for Bush = the new NAZI Party.

So conversely...YES that was our fault as well.

One of the big issues for the German Workers Party was to create a government welfare state. Did you know that?

[Lord Undies]

If you want to make a Little Goon turn inside out, tell one of them that oil is the best reason to go to war....and then back it up with logic. 

[AllosaursRus]

**** these assholes! What about all the wannabe terrorists we wiped off the face of the earth in Iraq?

What do you suppose would have happened if they were still loose to spread their hatred?

Lord, grant me the gift of being able to confront just one of these traitors to our way of life! The prison sentence would be worth every minute!

[Carl]

To all lurking DUmmies...


**** you,you assholes




Even if I didn`t agree with a military action I still would honor the sacrifice those who have volunteered have made for this country.

[The Village Idiot]

Step right up step right up.... this is the FREAKS of the MIDWAY booth where we shoot pellet guns at DUmmies, you could win a kewpie doll and proceeds go to the war fund, I mean widows and orphans of fallen soldiers. Shoot a DUmmie for charity, its the only way they can contribute anything useful to society.

[BannedFromDU]

hootinholler  (1000+ posts)        Mon May-25-09 11:38 AM
Original message

Smoke em if ya got em.

 This fine holiday finds a whole pork tenderloin on my counter warming to room temperature and waiting on the spice rub yet to be mixed and applied before its final journey into the smoker around noon. I have a maple deadfall branch out back which should provide enough sugar maple to cook several, let alone today’s entrée. Since I’m burning maple I should probably set up a smoke condenser and collect some liquid smoke for the spice cabinet, but I digress.

God, is there anything more tedious than a DUmmy desperate to be Molly Ivins, Garrison Keillor, and Jim Hightower all rolled into one?  

I mention today’s agenda only because it gives me a chance to reflect.

Translation: I'm about to make a very simple-minded point about Republicans.

It’s the slow burn sort of task that all else is worked around, laying in a small fire, half hourly temperature checks, monitoring the firebox, laying in soaked wood which makes better smoke

Wow, he's so much more credible now that he clearly knows how to smoke a piece of meat. (Giggity giggity goo)

 and keeps the gasses a little cooler,

except the ones coming out of your self-righteous, look-how-folksy-I-am piehole, of course.

 the chamber a little moister, resisting the temptation of opening the main box especially when it smells so good.

I'll just hazard a guess he's never opened a good-smelling box in his entire life. (Giggity)

It gives time for the mind to slow which allows room for ideas to percolate.

Holy mixed metaphor, Mr. Almost-as-Failed-a-Writer-as-Mythsaje: nothing percolates when it cools.

One notion that I’m wrestling with this holiday is the nature of the holiday itself.

Careful...you called it a "fine" holiday in your first sentence.

 We are to remember and honor our war dead. A subject worthy of our reflection if more of us would actually take the opportunity, but, the notion that entered my mind yesterday is how many of our war dead are not with us because of the military industrial complex rather than some just cause?

By Military industrial complex, of course, you mean "Republicans."


Surely precious few in my lifetime, I can think of none really. Nearly 50 years of wars, skirmishes, actions, intercessions justified by the manipulation of the public’s fears and implemented over the objections of mothers.


That's because, as I have said for years, the only wars that liberals condone are fought against WHITE PEOPLE. The last war we fought that was even close to "just" from a liberal's perspective is WWII, because in Europe we killed WHITE PEOPLE.


Thousands of our young men killed, for what? The bottom line of General Electric? Maybe Raytheon? Sperry? General Dynamics?

It's just going to have to look that way until the hippie communes start building munitions. Unless, of course, you want defense contractors nationalized.


Yes, I remember and honor those who died, but I’ll be damned if I honor why because it feels like we the people are little more than my cut of pork experiencing the slow burn.
-Hoot

Hey, Hoot? Smoke that piece of pork and shove it up your ass while you're smoking that other piece of meat known as your dog's penis. People of honor don't need remembrance from idiots like yourself. Your thoughts are puerile, predictable, and utterly worthless.

[Airwolf]

I'm no fan of GE but I'd dare any of those DUmpmonkies to try and live without the things that GE has invented and still remain able to get through a day without bitching .

I'll bet there are plenty of DUmmies that have yet to go through more then a few days with out lights. Ever try eating by candle light ,not because it was romantic but because it was the only way to ****ing see? The Stupid should be fatal over there.

[BlueStateSaint]

I'm no fan of GE but I'd dare any of those DUmpmonkies to try and live without the things that GE has invented and still remain able to get through a day without bitching .

I'll bet there are plenty of DUmmies that have yet to go through more then a few days with out lights. Ever try eating by candle light ,not because it was romantic but because it was the only way to ****ing see? The Stupid should be fatal over there.

Lights, refrigeration, electric heat, air conditioning, and a whole bunch of other things wouldn't be there if GE wasn't there.  My father-in-law, after he retired, turned down more money from GE Turbine Services to work as a contractor, because of his experience in the job.  Why?  He wants to enjoy retirement (right now, he also babysits my wife's sister's two girls when my SIL and her husband both have to work at the same time).  My wife asked me to put down that "After the Sun, GE lights the world."

They are ****ing idiots.

[The Village Idiot]

Lights, refrigeration, electric heat, air conditioning, and a whole bunch of other things wouldn't be there if GE wasn't there.  My father-in-law, after he retired, turned down more money from GE Turbine Services to work as a contractor, because of his experience in the job.  Why?  He wants to enjoy retirement (right now, he also babysits my wife's sister's two girls when my SIL and her husband both have to work at the same time).  My wife asked me to put down that "After the Sun, GE lights the world."

They are ******* idiots.

I think a guy named Carrier or something invented Air Conditioning? Anyways, thank God for him, cuz Texas would be a pretty uncomfortable place without it

[Lord Undies]

I think a guy named Carrier or something invented Air Conditioning? Anyways, thank God for him, cuz Texas would be a pretty uncomfortable place without it

I grew up in Dallas without air conditioning.  They didn't even air condition the schools until after I graduated.  I don't remember being uncomfortable.  It just was what it was.  I use to freeze to death in stores and at friend's house during the summer.  I wasn't use to A/C.

I still say Dallas is now the coldest city in the world in the summertime.   

[AllosaursRus]

I grew up in Dallas without air conditioning.  They didn't even air condition the schools until after I graduated.  I don't remember being uncomfortable.  It just was what it was.  I use to freeze to death in stores and at friend's house during the summer.  I wasn't use to A/C.

I still say Dallas is now the coldest city in the world in the summertime.  

Heh! Know what ya mean! When I was in school there was no such thing as A/C. We used to hang out by the windows when we could cause the fans were blowin'.

I remember sleeping on the roof at home when I was 14, cause it was too damn hot in the house! Made for some pretty hot times with the girlfriend tho!

[BlueStateSaint]

I think a guy named Carrier or something invented Air Conditioning? Anyways, thank God for him, cuz Texas would be a pretty uncomfortable place without it

Yeah, he probably did, but turbines made by GE supply the power for the ACs.  Sorry for the poorly-worded comment.

[DumbAss Tanker]

FirstLight  (1000+ posts)        Mon May-25-09 11:54 AM
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3. Ya, today's reflection has me feeling the burn for sure
 I am burning because of more than just the stupid justification thing... I am burning because of the crap we are STILL dealing with and the farce that somehow I have to HONOR these atrocities performed in my name...

Well, it's a free country (No thanks to you), you don't HAVE to honor anyone.  It's your choice.  And I believe I can say with a fair degree of assurance that being honored by you in particular would not be important to my departed comrades.     

[jukin]

Yet the DUchebag's favorite political situation, totalitarianism under the guise of comunism/fascism, is responsible for over a 100 million deaths in the 20th century alone.

The worst genocides of the 20th Century
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Suharto (East Timor, West Papua, Communists, 1966-98) 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000
Tito (Yugoslavia, 1945-1987) 570,000

[Chris_]

I notice that Google honors all sorts of "holidays" with special logos displayed that day.  Yesterday...nothing, nada, zip.   

[The Village Idiot]

I notice that Google honors all sorts of "holidays" with special logos displayed that day.  Yesterday...nothing, nada, zip.   

a tiny yellow ribbon below the search bar. not in the google logo as it usually is