doughy burnt-chicken primitive being ungrateful

[Vagabond]

Rising Phoenix has mommy issues

Rising Phoenix  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 01:35 PM
Original message
Everyday more homophobic garbage spews from her mouth.
 I live with her, and it just keeps getting worse. Several times she has been told I am bisexual, but its like she blocks it out. And just keeps spewing hate. Hate for her daughter. The only good thing is I have become quite eloquent in standing up for civil rights, though she doesn't agree that gblt rights are civil rights. But I will keep fighting the good fight, god I need to move.

So, you live under her roof.  You eat her food.  You use her water to wash and drink.  You enjoy her A/C.  You are probably using internet access that she pays for.  That doesn't sound like hate to me.  Yet you insult her.  I think 'ass' is an appropriate term for such a person.

Dyedinthewoolliberal  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-24-09 01:41 PM
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1. Does she profess to be Christian?
 If so, remind her of the story that says 'as you do unto the least of these, you do unto Me'

Ah yes, when Jesus told his disciples to let the children come see him.  He was addressing this to the weak who could not provide for themselves.  Not arrogant sluts like the OP.

Rising Phoenix  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 01:45 PM
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yes, or rather cathoilic....very catholic
 Thank you for responding. I once brought up that point, but apparently since we are sick and choose our path, we (glbt and friends) do not get extended that courtesy. It is saved for those who choose to follow god. But not immigrants. jeebus

Sounds like your mom has her had on straight.  You should listen more to her than the pack of militant faggots on DU.  However, you make a choice.  Funny how that works.

Smarmie Doofus  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-24-09 01:45 PM
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2. Ugh. No one should have to live like that.
 I don't know what your circumstances are but perhaps you can share an apt somewhere. Boston is expensive but ... it sounds like your emotional health is at stake.

Mom's caught in a loop. You're too close, I suspect. Putting some physical distance between you her might give her the chance to calm down and reassess.

Sorry.

Yes, the child should be seperated from the parent.  Perhaps her mom could give RP her inheritance now.  That way RP could party.

Rising Phoenix  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Thanks
 It has definitely become a mental health issue. I am in the process of looking for housing, be it subsidized, public.....but not in Boston, preferably further away. Like you said, physical distance is needed.

Yes you have issues.  You want to get off your mom's teat and onto to the public's teat.  I guess that's because your mom holds you up to a standard, and we all know the government never will.

sarge43  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 01:51 PM
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4. Yeah, get away.
 What your mother is doing is abuse. She's chipping away at your self-esteem.

No, not teh self-esteem!  This basement dwelling wannabe public project dweller shouldn't have to face her mom!

Rising Phoenix  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. she is gifted at that
 to tell you the truth at this point she just makes me angry and determined to make myself happy.

Yes, because in this universe, the only thing that matters is your happiness.

sarge43  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. What a shame.
 Well, angry is better than depressed or humiliated. But you don't need any negative emotions, so time to say adios. Her loss. No point in both of you being miserable.

I hope you find nice digs and someday your mom gets her act together.

She is looking for public housing DUmmie, and it's never nice.  Nice of you to stop by and tell her that her mother doesn't matter.

Rising Phoenix  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. thanks
 I'll keep you updated on my house search!

Yes, because forging public assistance forms while living under your mother's roof is so difficult.

graywarrior  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-24-09 01:54 PM
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5. She's terrified.
 But you can't help her. It ain't you...it's her.

Terrified?  She tries to point her daughter's errors to save her from her self and she is terrified?

Rising Phoenix  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. yes, definitely
 I don't want to help her, she has her "path" and I have mine. They are very different. And the fact that they are leading away from each other, well, that is not my fault.

You want to quote the bible and Jesus?  Ever hear about the part that says honour thy mother and father?  Yeah, it's in there.  You should read it.

graywarrior  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-24-09 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. It amazes me that fear will turn someone away from their child.
 There are other women out there willing to mother. I found that out after years of abandonment.

So you abandoned your mom, suffered for it and now encourage RP to do the same.  How special.

Rising Phoenix  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-24-09 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. As have I.
 I stopped telling my mom much of anything after the way she reacted to my sexuality and my illness.

Did your mom need to be privvy to your sexuality?  I suspect you are engaged more in an act of rebellion, but your actions pave the way to hell.

graywarrior  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-24-09 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Become your own parent.
 That's all I can say.

Then you can have the "cool" parent, huh?

pup_ajax (15 posts)      Sun May-24-09 03:50 PM
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13. Speak up for yourself but don't fight her ...
 Edited on Sun May-24-09 03:50 PM by pup_ajax
Words have power -- and work both ways. You *might* find it useful to simply respond to her insults by saying "I will not allow you to bully me with your hurtful and harmful words. I reject them and will be happy and emotionally whole in this lifetime." Or something to that effect.

Yes, be passive aggressive while throwing your deviancy in your mother's face.  That'll help.

Divine Discontent  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-24-09 04:05 PM
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15. hmmm, what is she feeling guilty?
 God bless you OP! I am a Gay person, who is Christian by choice - not the other way around. You tell your mom that Jesus Christ's compassion is for all and anybody that stands in the way of judging only what HE is to judge will be held accountable. I would not choose to be anything that so many people cruelly judge - however, in saying that, I am who I am and how I was made and there's no more shame in that than if we we're into liking the opposite gender.

Your mom harbors guilt either for past things she did, or that you're Lesbian and she cannot believe she caused this somehow...

It's her shame. Not yours. You're doing good in being strong!

Be Chrisitan, if you want.  Be gay, if you want.  Do not claim both when one logically cancels the other.  Do not claim christianity and then tell a child to refute it's parent.  Do not claim Christianity and pretend that Jesus did not address your recreational activity as a sin.

That's pretty much the whole thread.  Rising Phoenix being profoundly ungrateful and the rest of the Gay Brigade cheering her on.

[The Village Idiot]

Apparently Jesus and the Bible are unknowable and we have no clue as to how we'll be judged. Unless you actually try reading it, I guess. But that would be *sniff* hard

[The Village Idiot]

she should get a job and leave. Then she will have to get her own internet service. She will have to find a way to pay for some things because the government hasn't gotten around to stealing everything for them. did I say stealing? I meant providing.

[Carl]

In other words a typically useless idiot that can`t stand on their own two feet and whines all day long that they aren`t being taken care of properly.

 

[miskie]

The first thing people need to learn is don't go to the DUmp for advice. Ever. 

[delilahmused]

You know, I'm willing to concede being gay isn't always a choice, whether brain chemistry, early trauma, etc., these people are truly attracted to their own sex. But bisexual is. Deciding you like to play with a dick and a ***** is a choice not a compulsion. But, of course, it also provides another avenue to victimhood, at least at the DUmp. Geez, lady, pick a side for heaven's sake.

Cindie

[franksolich]

Oh my.

This is the former Mrs. Sniffa, who lost her husband the sniffing primitive to the cheating conniving double-crossing bi-boobs primitive ("BiCentennialBaby").

That was pretty sordid.

Anyway, apparently what happened after that, the primitives ignored the former Mrs. Sniffa.  She lit bonfire after bonfire on Skins's island, and no primitives ever came to one of them.  She lit tons of bonfires that burned out, unseen.

It was as if the former Mrs. Sniffa had leprosy or something.

Which was all unfair, because it was the bi-boobs primitive who deserved the blame for the separation, being a lying, manipulating, conspiring, dishonest seductress.

I have no opinion on the matter, but it is nice to see that the former Mrs. Sniffa at long last has gotten some new friends on Skin's island.

[BannedFromDU]

     GLBT, GTFO.


     Eight little letters that solve the problem altogether.

[The Village Idiot]

I have no opinion on the matter

ha

[JohnnyReb]

BI-sexuality: doubles your chances of scoring......unless you're a DUmmie, in which case it increases your chances about 10%.....if you're lucky.

[MrsSmith]

Oh my.

This is the former Mrs. Sniffa, who lost her husband the sniffing primitive to the cheating conniving double-crossing bi-boobs primitive ("BiCentennialBaby").

That was pretty sordid.

Anyway, apparently what happened after that, the primitives ignored the former Mrs. Sniffa.  She lit bonfire after bonfire on Skins's island, and no primitives ever came to one of them.  She lit tons of bonfires that burned out, unseen.

It was as if the former Mrs. Sniffa had leprosy or something.

Which was all unfair, because it was the bi-boobs primitive who deserved the blame for the separation, being a lying, manipulating, conspiring, dishonest seductress.

I have no opinion on the matter, but it is nice to see that the former Mrs. Sniffa at long last has gotten some new friends on Skin's island.

And she's back living with her mother.     You know, my kids are far from perfect, but at least they don't expect me to support them forever...and they wouldn't be whiny and ungrateful about it if they did ask for a little help. 

[franksolich]

And she's back living with her mother.

I'm not intimately acquainted with the facts of the breakup and all that, and therefore have no opinion on the matter, but it seems to me the former Mrs. Sniffa was doing okay, until the cheating lying conniving bi-boobs primitive entered the picture, stealing the sniffing primitive from she to whom the sniffing primitive owed fealty.

One suspects the former Mrs. Sniffa had made the sniffing primitive all he turned out to be, because the sniffing primitive himself is so weak-willed, so corruptible, so spineless, he couldn't have done it on his own.

After the former Mrs. Sniffa made and refined the product, the sniffing primitive, then the dishonest manilpulating double-crossing bi-boobs primitive stole, shoplifted, a completed product she herself had not made or paid for.

It seems to me this was where the former Mrs. Sniffa went insane, utterly bananas; it's very hard dealing with the loss of something or someone in which one has invested much time, money, hopes, tears, toil, and sweat.

So the former Mrs. Sniffa just went nuts.

It's unfortunate the former Mrs. Sniffa is now dependent upon the largesse of her mother, being unable to take care of herself, but it could be ameliorated by the former Mrs. Sniffa's mother sending the sniffing primitive and the bag-of-excresence bi-boobs primitive a bill for the maintenance and support of her now-incompetent daughter; after all, it was their fault.

I'm still sorting out the facts of the matter, but thus far to me, it seems this is what happened.  I might, or might not, be right.

[Karin]

Oh!  I was under the impression that Phoenix was a girl of 18 or 19, when sometimes it's hard financially to leave the nest right away.  Then Frank tells me she's a full-grown formerly married woman?  Anyway, I can't stand her no matter what her age for that "subsidized or public" housing.  It's always got to be something free or partly free, doesn't it?  If she'd concentrate on supporting herself more than however she likes to get her jollies, she wouldn't have a dangerous, roach-infested dump to look forward to. 

It's literally making your own bed to lie in it. 

[franksolich]

Oh!  I was under the impression that Phoenix was a girl of 18 or 19, when sometimes it's hard financially to leave the nest right away.  Then Frank tells me she's a full-grown formerly married woman?  Anyway, I can't stand her no matter what her age for that "subsidized or public" housing.  It's always got to be something free or partly free, doesn't it?  If she'd concentrate on supporting herself more than however she likes to get her jollies, she wouldn't have a dangerous, roach-infested dump to look forward to. 

It's literally making your own bed to lie in it. 

Don't be fooled by the primitives, madam.

They may sound like teenagers, but you're really dealing with old hippies in their 40s, 50s, and 60s here.  In truth, while there are some youngsters on Skins's island, well more than half of the primitives are no spring chickens.

[Chris_]

She's in her 30s.

And to answer Frank's question, the girl was crazy before the split with the other two.

I wondered how long it would be before her mother got tired of her.   

[franksolich]

She's in her 30s.

And to answer Frank's question, the girl was crazy before the split with the other two.

I wondered how long it would be before her mother got tired of her.

Well, yeah, I seriously considered the probability the former Mrs. Sniffa was crazy before the split, but I'm trying to make a black-and-white case out of this.

Shame on the sniffing primitive for so cravenly abandoning a sick wife, in favor of a floozy hussy.

[BadCat]

Well the bisexualbaby DUmmy IS better looking than the RisingBiggestCityInArizona DUmmy.

By DUmp standards anyway.

[franksolich]

Well the bisexualbaby DUmmy IS better looking than the RisingBiggestCityInArizona DUmmy.

I dunno; different strokes for different folks, and all that.

When I see the bi-boobs baby, all I see is grease.

[BadCat]

I dunno; different strokes for different folks, and all that.

When I see the bi-boobs baby, all I see is grease.

I just see crabs.

[MrsSmith]

Well, yeah, I seriously considered the probability the former Mrs. Sniffa was crazy before the split, but I'm trying to make a black-and-white case out of this.

Shame on the sniffing primitive for so cravenly abandoning a sick wife, in favor of a floozy hussy.

Any woman who lives with her hubby's "mistress," or whatever the term is today, is crazy.  Sane women make sure hubby knows what will happen if he HAS a mistress...let alone, brings her home.   

[thundley4]

Any woman who lives with her hubby's "mistress," or whatever the term is today, is crazy.  Sane women make sure hubby knows what will happen if he HAS a mistress...let alone, brings her home.   

A man needs a woman that is his friend. A man needs a woman that is his lover. A man needs a woman to nurture him.

A man needs luck that the three should never meet. 

[miskie]

Well the bisexualbaby DUmmy IS better looking than the RisingBiggestCityInArizona DUmmy.

By DUmp standards anyway.

IIRC there were Sniffa/Bi wedding pictures at some sort of waterfront. and, again IIRC, she was missing at least one major tooth from her smile. I understand that accidents happen, and sometimes teeth go bad for reasons other than poor brushing habits - Hell I broke my front two teeth off on a waterslide. - The thing is, I got them fixed.

Missing dental work is a major turnoff for me.

And in Massachusetts with heath-care for all, there is no reason for her teeth to not be corrected.

[BadCat]

Any woman who lives with her hubby's "mistress," or whatever the term is today, is crazy.  Sane women make sure hubby knows what will happen if he HAS a mistress...let alone, brings her home.   

Different situation MrsSmith...it was a menage a trois.
They frequently bragged in the Lounge about their "wonderful polyamorous lifestyle"

[Chris_]

miskie, I saw the same pics.

Every once in a while the ex Mrs. Sniffa will post pics smiling big saying show me your teeth.

LOL, if that ain't a dig at bi baby I don't know what is.

[miskie]

miskie, I saw the same pics.

Every once in a while the ex Mrs. Sniffa will post pics smiling big saying show me your teeth.

LOL, if that ain't a dig at bi baby I don't know what is.

Ive never put the two together - that could be exactly the reason - I do know that Bi did her best to dig at RP with her "I just LOVE being Married !!!11!!!1 "  threads.