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flashing primitive questions authority
« on: February 16, 2008, 09:00:28 PM »
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flashl  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-16-08 09:23 PM
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Should governors gain authority over all U.S. military forces in their states? 

Governors' military powers debated

Should governors gain authority over all U.S. military forces in their states — not just National Guard troops — during terrorist attacks, hurricanes and other domestic disasters?

A congressionally chartered commission last week recommended just that, expressing “great confidence in our governors.”

While some say it’s a good move, Pentagon officials have assailed the proposal, claiming it violates the Constitution, undermines presidential power and “invites confusion” over military command during emergencies. The National Governors Association (NGA) isn’t sure whether to back the plan, and the commission itself anticipates resistance.

Debate over the recommendation — and 94 others included in a Jan. 31 report by the Commission on the National Guard and Reserves — continues today (Feb. 7), when the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee questions commission members about the study. Congress created the 12-member panel in 2005 to examine the challenges facing the nation’s military reserves as the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan continue; more than 600,000 National Guard members and reservists have served in the two wars.

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The first up, the lying titty primitive:

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TomInTib  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-16-08 09:29 PM
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1. I don't like it at all.

Just because the current bunch of saps are criminally inept, I firmly believe that the U.S. military is just that, "United".

You get a couple of egomaniac, nutcase Governors out there and all kinds of crap could happen.

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thunder rising  (1000+ posts)       Sat Feb-16-08 09:30 PM
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2. posse comitatus ... US troops cannot be used. So if they must be "donated" to the National Guard; hence the Governors have control. This is great blue states can welcome the troops and red states better fear the bullets.

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angrycarpenter  (791 posts)       Sat Feb-16-08 09:31 PM
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3. Martial law suspends all local governments

When imposed by the president. That is one power they will not give up.

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williesgirl  (1000+ posts)     Sat Feb-16-08 09:33 PM
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4. Definitely NOT. This is scary.

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aquart  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-16-08 09:53 PM
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5. It really doesn't matter.

It was a problem after Katrina, when NO needed the troops and wasn't allowed them. I can see why no one wants to see that happen again. BUT it wouldn't have been necessary if Bush weren't using the National Guard for his international ventures. THAT is what needs to be removed from the president's greedy grasp.

This is really going to be an issue when our coasts are flooded and millions of refugees try to escape inland. Which is when chain of command won't matter and the issue will decide itself. Either we will rescue our people or let them die. Either we will remain one nation or break up into separate states. The magnitude of the emergency will make the decision.
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Re: flashing primitive questions authority
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 09:09:30 PM »
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thunder rising  (1000+ posts)       Sat Feb-16-08 09:30 PM
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2. posse comitatus ... US troops cannot be used. So if they must be "donated" to the National Guard; hence the Governors have control. This is great blue states can welcome the troops and red states better fear the bullets.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Most of the military are "Red Staters" in heart, moron. You get a bunch of liberals running things you'll see a mass exodus from the military. I know people that extended so their retirement papers didn't have Bill Clinton on them.
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