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"The world would be better off without humans."
« on: February 15, 2008, 06:46:43 PM »
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-14-08 11:38 PM
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"The world would be better off without humans."
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What a stupid sentiment. I don't think anyone who makes that statement actually thinks through the implications of it. If you really think that, then murder is good, because it takes one more human off the planet. If you really think that, then genocide is even better; after all, without all those pesky human beings, the planet's better off! You must have Hitler and Stalin posters in your bedroom - they got rid of more humans than anyone else in history. Surely you're a big fan of W's policies, with all the death in Iraq.

And I've never, never heard anyone who talks about how the earth would be better off without humans mention that they want to start with themselves, their family, or friends. Seems like it'd be appropriate.

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karlrschneider  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-14-08 11:55 PM
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13. Nonsense. Humans are not intrinsically more valuable, useful or good than any other form of life.
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Donnachaidh  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 AM
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30. humans also consume the most resources, kill the most species
   Kill for Sport, foul their own nests with garbage and pollution. Humans hate other humans because of their skin-color, or religious beliefs, or life style.

We stopped showing our *potential* long ago. Right about the time one human decided the other guy's shiny rock was something he had to have, and killed him for it.

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Donnachaidh  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-15-08 12:53 AM
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38. No -- you're missing the point
   No other species is arrogant enough to think that it is at the top of the food chain. And where exactly does a fish in a tank kill other fish for possessions like money, cars, etc.?

This very sort of "humility" is my point -- we lost our potential a long time ago. Some of us get it. Some don't.

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karlrschneider  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-15-08 12:58 AM
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41. In college (Aeronautical Engineering) we liked to describe helicopters this way:
   "the only machine ever designed by man that is constantly attempting to destroy itself" (strength of materials never quite caught up to the demands made of it)...

There's something "not right" about the human brain...we do not operate for our own common benefit. I find that
incredibly fascinating...and sad.

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alarimer  (1000+ posts)         Fri Feb-15-08 08:57 AM
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85. I agree. We ar a random act of evolution,.
   There is no purpose, no direction to evolution (except generally in the direction of higher complexity, which does not imply that we are worth more).

I make no secret of the fact that I despise the human species. We are an utter waste of oxygen and we will eventually kill ourselves off. Extinction is almost inevitable.
   

Please feel free to begin that for us.

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IMModerate  (1000+ posts)         Fri Feb-15-08 12:17 AM
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22. Humans are to earth as cancer is to the body.
   Sorry, but that analogy holds.

No, I am not suggesting any cure. Natural selection will obtain.

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They are in the minority on the thread although there are many waffling.

A life that despises its existence is not one worth listening to for any reason yet they consider themselves the most qualified to be in control.
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 06:54:48 PM »
Good, they can start the process with themselves.
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 07:12:48 PM »
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I make no secret of the fact that I despise the human species.

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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2008, 07:25:12 PM »
Damn they're deranged.
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 07:28:27 PM »

maybe, but who would be there to appreciate it?  :wink:

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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 08:39:23 PM »

maybe, but who would be there to appreciate it?  :wink:

Exactly.  Imagine how long all those nebulae and galaxies and other space phenomena waited for us to build the Hubble so they could be admired.

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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 09:21:42 PM »
Hey DUmmies....



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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 11:53:42 PM »
It's appalling how little these DUmpRoaches know about nature. Kinda like they've never seen nature outside the greenpiss pamphlet they were handed at the last code:pink rally.

The scary part is that these are the same idiotic dumbass people that are trying to lock the unwashed masses (ie ME) out of anywhere that they consider to be "environmentally sensitive" .

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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2008, 12:03:26 AM »
It's appalling how little these DUmpRoaches know about nature.

DUmpRoaches, I like that.  :lmao:
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2008, 08:10:38 AM »
I dunno.

Would the world be better off without primitives?

Why yes, sure, most definitely.

So in order to make this a better world, should the primitives be liquidated?

No, that's not our call to make.
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2008, 08:58:06 AM »
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106. maybe...but then who would pet my dog?
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2008, 10:42:44 AM »
I dunno.

Would the world be better off without primitives?

Why yes, sure, most definitely.

So in order to make this a better world, should the primitives be liquidated?

No, that's not our call to make.

But if they self-liquidate there won't be any tears. I think more of them should fully embrace this "humans are bad" thing and take care of the problem by self-liquidating.
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2008, 11:16:37 AM »
I dunno.

Would the world be better off without primitives?

Why yes, sure, most definitely.

So in order to make this a better world, should the primitives be liquidated?

No, that's not our call to make.

But if they self-liquidate there won't be any tears. I think more of them should fully embrace this "humans are bad" thing and take care of the problem by self-liquidating.

We can sell it to them as "Reducing Their Carbon Footprint."
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2008, 03:13:56 PM »
I can think of slightly more than 4000 people that we could do without.
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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2008, 10:39:32 PM »

We can sell it to them as "Reducing Their Carbon Footprint."

Being that organic life on the planet is carbon based, I see this new Reducing the Carbon Footprint fad as anti-life.  The new home of the Zero Population Growth fad from the 1970's
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2008, 10:50:50 PM »
"The world would be better off without humans."

Only if you consider Democrats 'Humans,' and even then it would really be more correct to say "The world would be better off without certain humans."

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Re: "The world would be better off without humans."
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2008, 11:01:37 PM »
"The world would be better off without humans."

Only if you consider Democrats 'Humans,' and even then it would really be more correct to say "The world would be better off without certain humans."

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hell.  I thought we had most of them in internment camps. :banghead: