primitives wondering what it would take

[franksolich]

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Oh my.

Uben  (1000+ posts)       Thu Feb-14-08 07:23 AM
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What would it take?

I am seriously asking myself, what would it tkae for a republican win this fall? They are pretty well known for doing whatever it takes to achieve this goal. IMO, it would take another 9/11 type disaster around August. Do you think they would try it again, given that they do not have the majority or presidency (assuming we win)to cover it up? I don't.

Perry Logan  (1000+ posts)       Thu Feb-14-08 07:26 AM
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1. Nothing will help them. Even another terror attack would probably backfire.

Isn't the Hogan's Hero primitive that one guy who's nuts?

taterguy  (1000+ posts)       Thu Feb-14-08 07:27 AM
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2. It would take more people voting Republican than Democratic

But that's just my opinion and I could be wrong

Donk Yore  (610 posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:27 AM
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3. It won't matter who "wins"

sosdd

same old shit different day

tekisui  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:29 AM
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4. The only two major terrorist attacks happening under a puke pres?

That was a one time only. The second attempt would enrage and motivate the electorate.

All they have now, is Diebold.

Hepburn  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:33 AM
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5. "...what would it take for a republican win this fall?"

Make Hillary our nominee.

Echo In Light (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:33 AM
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6. Many have been warning of the next false flag shoe to drop for several yrs

And not without justification. After all, U.S. reps have been openly stating that it's not a matter of if but when nukes will be used against us a la "terror" attack. Now, obviously, every time there's an election around the corner these suspicions heighten and nothing occurs, making the concerned appear way off the mark ... even though eventually they may not be. I really don't have a firm opinion on this, although I'd lean toward there not being another mass casualty attack.

However, given the outrageous criminality of this admin, and its many cohorts and enablers, the various anti-democratic legislation, Halliburton detainment camp contracts, the Military Commissions Act, and so forth, it is clear that the powers that be definitely have some rather sinister plans in mind ... so, who can say? My guess is that for now the NWO would rather apply a new, "friendlier" face to what's happening, and hope to quell the angry electorate that way.

mwb970  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:34 AM
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7. How would a second attack on bush's watch help the R's?

I thought their whole thing was that our Wise and Wonderful Great Leader has protected us so well - look, no more attacks! bush got away with having ignored the warnings before, would we let him get away with it again?

Echo In Light (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:43 AM
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9. If/when they stage another false flag, it will make 9/11 look pale by comparison

Within the emotional chaos of scores dead from a nuclear or bio/chemical attack, the public mind will be like a deer in the headlights. Very susceptible to all sorts of manipulation as many levels of the totalitarian infrastructure would be implemented overtly in the name of "security."

The media would gloss over the idea that the Bushites "failed to protect," and instead hammer home the desired message i.e. Iran, escalation of war, assigning blame to political dissidents for "aiding the enemy," and so forth. By and large people would buy it just as they have with nearly every Bush/Cheney atrocity.

mwb970  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:48 AM
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10. If that's true, then we deserve what we get.

You paint Americans as unthinking, frightened children. The sad thing is, you may be right. We don't have much of a citizenry at this point. The public is now mostly uninformed scaredy-sheep.

Echo In Light (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:56 AM
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12. It's hard to avoid applying judgments. It's not about "good" or "bad," but indoctrination

The citizenry has been systematically conditioned to depoliticization and passivity through the prevailing "lifestyle" of fashionable consumption.

jazzy062  (115 posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:36 AM
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8. Only if another attack or incident caused civil unrest and Shrub used it as an excuse to invoke Martial Law and was someway able to stop the election. IMHO

AlertLurker (570 posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:53 AM
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11. All it will take is an Obama victory in the Primaries...

...to have a Republican win in the GE.

I am convinced.

By the way, on an unrelated matter, the lilliputian tom thumb primitive is going to write a book about the Civil War.

[Freeper]

mwb970  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:34 AM
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7. How would a second attack on bush's watch help the R's?

I thought their whole thing was that our Wise and Wonderful Great Leader has protected us so well - look, no more attacks! bush got away with having ignored the warnings before, would we let him get away with it again?

They blast Bush at the DUmp for "ignoring the warnings on 9-11" but, from that day forward every time the Bush Admin has acted on "warnings" the DUmp makes accusations of fear mongering.

[LadyLiberty]

mwb970  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-14-08 07:34 AM
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7. How would a second attack on bush's watch help the R's?

I thought their whole thing was that our Wise and Wonderful Great Leader has protected us so well - look, no more attacks! bush got away with having ignored the warnings before, would we let him get away with it again?

They blast Bush at the DUmp for "ignoring the warnings on 9-11" but, from that day forward every time the Bush Admin has acted on "warnings" the DUmp makes accusations of fear mongering.

That is their favorite color of paint, you see. Anything to try to quash the Bush Admin of being successful. That has been their MO in "rising to power". It's all bullshit, but the longer they stick to that, the more credible they hope to become...or the more they wear people down and people just give them their way to make them STFU.

The DUmmies are actually asking the right question, what would it take to have the GOP remain in the WH....too bad they lack the sense to figure out what it will take (a real conservative running, maybe?)

[Chris_]

OK, now I'm confused. I thought the idea of a pre-election attack was to install Bush as Emperor-in-Chief Chimpy McCokespoon. NOW I find out it's so we can have another Republican president. Consistency isn't their strong suit.

Cindie

[dandi]

Even if by some miracle 9/11 had been averted, moonbats would claim there was never a threat to begin with or it had been a false-flag operation on the part of the Eeeevul BFEE. That's why there can be no discussion with these nimrods. You can't win an argument with an idiot.

[Carl]

Even if by some miracle 9/11 had been averted, moonbats would claim there was never a threat to begin with or it had been a false-flag operation on the part of the Eeeevul BFEE. That's why there can be no discussion with these nimrods. You can't win an argument with an idiot.

Whether it be about politics or not I have found it hopeless to try to have a rational discussion with an irrational person or belief.

[jtyangel]

Even if by some miracle 9/11 had been averted, moonbats would claim there was never a threat to begin with or it had been a false-flag operation on the part of the Eeeevul BFEE. That's why there can be no discussion with these nimrods. You can't win an argument with an idiot.

Absolutely, dandi. It's amazing to me with that attitude how any of them function at all. Wait, many of them don't. I suspect when dealing with their own personal issues they are either/both very indecisive about anything AND/or come up with irrational solutions to their problems or do nothing but create more problems in their fertile imaginations.

[franksolich]

Absolutely, dandi. It's amazing to me with that attitude how any of them function at all. Wait, many of them don't. I suspect when dealing with their own personal issues they are either/both very indecisive about anything AND/or come up with irrational solutions to their problems or do nothing but create more problems in their fertile imaginations.

I beg to differ, madam.

"Imagination," yes, but "fertile," no.

A "fertile imagination" suggests an open-ness of mind about people and ideas, creativity in managing or solving problems, innovation, and actual sweat, toil, and tears to make dreams come true.

Good God, no, madam, the primitives don't have that.

The primitives are very much like a defective LP, where the stylus of the phonograph skips, bounces back to where it was before, skips again, bounces back to where it was before, skips again, bounces back to where it was before, skips again, bounces back to where it was before, skips again, bounces back to where it was before, skips again, bounces back to where it was before, &c., &c., &c.

And on and on and on and on.

And so the stylus never gets to the end of the LP.