DUmmies discovers e-mail

[Vagabond]

DUmmie gets e-mail[/url]barbtries  (1000+ posts)        Thu Mar-19-09 04:24 AM
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i finally got a rw BS email from my sister 
 Advertisements [?]i suppose it was bound to happen. my response follows the email.
This Tom Dashcle is nuts and should be jailed.

Subject: Elder Health Care

Everybody that is on this mailing list is either a senior citizen, is getting
close or knows somebody that is.

Most of you know by now that the Senate version (at least) of the "stimulus"
bill includes provisions for extensive rationing of health care for senior citizens. The author of this part of the bill, former Senator and Tax evader, Tom Dashcle was credited today by Bloomberg with the following statement.

Daschle says health-care reform will not be pain free. "Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them."

If this does not sufficiently get to you, just remember that Senators and Congressmen have their own healthcare plan that is first dollar or very low
co-pay which they are guaranteed the remainder of their lives and are not subject to this new law if it passes.
Please use the power of the Internet to get this message out. Talk it up at
the grassroots level. We have an election coming up in one year and nine months. We have the ability to address and reverse the dangerous direction the Obama administration and its allies have begun and in the interim, we
can make their lives miserable. Let's do it!

Sounds reasonable enough, why should the counts and dukes be allowed live high on the hog, while the peasants are told that if they have no bread, they should eat cake.

my response:
hey (names removed),
this is truly bullshit. please check the "source": http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=c...

the quotes in this email have been changed to put the words of the editorialist into Daschle's mouth. misleading. regarding the writer, Betsy McCaughey, see LIES, DAMN LIES, AND BETSY MCCAUGHEY

"LIES, DAMN LIES, AND BETSY MCCAUGHEY. Watching Betsy McCaughey lie about Barack Obama's health care legislation is a little bit like watching Aretha Franklin on stage: It's not as good as you remember, but you have to admit that she's still got it. So too with McCaughey, who I was planning to ignore. I'm too young for nostalgia. But then Limbaugh grabbed her column, and so did Fox news, and of course Drudge, and last night, chatting with an acquaintance who works on the Hill, he got a call from his left-leaning mother who'd heard the stimulus was going to destroy her health care...."

this is hate talk being disseminated from people such as rush limbaugh glenn beck et al, who would rather see this country go to hell than to see it succeed with a democratic administration. which really irks me no end, because the previous administration has put us into such a horrific hole, if we can't all come together with the just causes of peace and prosperity for EVERYONE, we're sunk. i mean it.

this last part of the email you forwarded gets straight to the true agenda of whoever wrote it:

"reverse the dangerous direction the Obama administration and its allies have begun and in the interim, we
can make their lives miserable"

noble causes, my ass.

i love you. please never send me another load of crap like this.
barbara

Translated:  I have no real way of denying this so instead I'll attack the messengers and make up a bouncy that I have an acquaintenance.  Then I'll try to scare you into thinking that socialism is the only way.  Please remember that my opinions are never to be challenged in any way. (/translation)

Look Babs, try harder.  You didn't start it with 'so', you didn't have any weed, you forgot to have any bushes for a cop to jump out of, and your sister didn't becme a raging communist.

A better bouncy would have looked like this:
So, I was checking my e-mail and smoking a joint this morning, when I opened a reich wing e-mail from my fundie sister.  I called her up to correct her point by point on her e-mail, since I've always been the smarter one of the two of us.  I convinced her not only that the e-mail is evil, but because of that all conservative values are wrong, she cried and told me she was leaving the church to join NARAL and the WWP.  Suddenly, a cop emerged from behind my "potted" plants and told me my joint was illegal.  I told him it was my body , my choice, and how the drug laws were just the reich wings method of mind control.  He agreed.  Then we all had a good laugh at how stupid the reich wingers are.

Please remember the format, babs.  It makes for better boucies.

[USA4ME]

barbtries

this is hate talk being disseminated from people .... who would rather see this country go to hell than to see it succeed with a democratic administration. ..... if we can't all come together with the just causes of peace and prosperity for EVERYONE, we're sunk. i mean it.

IOW, if you don't agree with B. Hussein and want the Dems to be in power, because they're the only one's who bring both peace and prosperity for all citizens, then the whole country is going to go down the drain.

*That* is the mindset of a cult follower.  I'm seeing more and more of it at the DUmp in the past week or so.

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[franksolich]

*That* is the mindset of a cult follower.  I'm seeing more and more of it at the DUmp in the past week or so.

The closer they are to collapse, both the idol and the cult followers get more and more frantic, more and more adamant, more and more defensive, more and more strident, more and more insistent, more and more rabidly fanatic.

I doubt if the collapse of both the idol and the cult is any time imminent, but it's coming sooner or later, and so the rest of us might as well sit back and enjoy it.

[BlueStateSaint]

The closer they are to collapse, both the idol and the cult followers get more and more frantic, more and more adamant, more and more defensive, more and more strident, more and more insistent, more and more rabidly fanatic.

I doubt if the collapse of both the idol and the cult is any time imminent, but it's coming sooner or later, and so the rest of us might as well sit back and enjoy it.

Coach, there will be "collateral damage."  There will be some good conservatives who will get caught in this.  But, the sooner this happens, the better.  For the country to get better, we have to take our medecine.

[Duke Nukum]

The closer they are to collapse, both the idol and the cult followers get more and more frantic, more and more adamant, more and more defensive, more and more strident, more and more insistent, more and more rabidly fanatic.

I doubt if the collapse of both the idol and the cult is any time imminent, but it's coming sooner or later, and so the rest of us might as well sit back and enjoy it.

The TV show House, which actually promoted Obama in the 2005 episode, Role Model, had an episode about a cat who predicted people's deaths and when House thought he had proved the whole thing was only a coincidence and the cat was only seeking heat, the patient who believed the cat told the story of a preacher who added some numbers from the Bible together predicting the exact day for Jesus' return.  When that day came and went, he went over his numbers and came up with another day and even more people came out and instead of saying the guy was full of it, they formed the Seventh Day Adventists.

There is also a book called When Prophecy Fails that is a study of UFO "end of the world" cult and when the Prophesy of Doom is called off the believers belief is even stronger.  The book has a wiki page and here from that page:

Festinger stated that five conditions must be present, if someone is to become a more fervent believer after a failure or disconfirmation:

    * A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he behaves.

    * The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual's commitment to the belief.

    * The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.

    * Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.

    * The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselyte or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.

[Karin]

A better bouncy would have looked like this:

Why do we always have to help them with their creative writing?  Doesn't some moonbat at the Community College teach a class in that? 

I wrote AARP about that whole health care deal.  They, of course are shills, so they wrote me saying to be a good little Obamabot, don't worry, be happy.  I told them, "not buying it."