Waterboy spoutsWaterboy spoutsH2O Man (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 06:43 PM
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Four Essential Human Freedoms
In his 1941 State of the Union address, President Franklin D. Roosevelt identified what he called the "four essential human freedoms." He knew that these were necessary for the citizens of this country to enjoy in the rights that define a Constitutional democracy The four essential freedoms are:
--Freedom of speech and expression;
--Freedom of religion;
--Freedom from want; and
--Freedom from fear.
FDR was a barely more than a dictator himself. He liked power, Waterboy, and people like you gave it to him. He enlarged the government and prolonged the depression with his anti-human philosphies.
FDR knew that these rights were worth fighting to protect, and that any force that threatened these rights was a threat to our nation’s security and well-being.. These were things worth fighting for. And just as they were in 1941, they are in 2009.
Notice FDR couldn't bring himself to declare war. That he wouldn't stand up if he had the courage of his convictions and lead the country into battle earlier when it may have cost less lives. In 1941, FDR was full of hot air, busy cutting back room deals to enhance the wealth of his buddies selling things to the British instead of helping them. Some leader.
We know that the Bush-Cheney administration was prepared to "suspend" Amendment 1 of the Bill of Rights, which provides for freedom of speech and expression.
FDR did more than "prepare" to suspend the 1st amendment, your hero did suspend it. Ever hear of wartime censorship dumbass. It's probably a good idea.
We know that the Bush-Cheney administration pursued a foreign policy that was based, in very large part, upon the religious beliefs of a segment of their pals. Bush was so vain as to say that he believed that God had placed him in the presidency for a divine purpose. Thousands of human beings have died or suffered serious injuries as a result.
Here we go with the anti-christian conspiracy theories again. Go and try reading what the bible says for a change. Better yet, find the old NBC broadcast declaring V-E. Better not, the prayer thanking God might make your hair catch fire.
The economic crisis that our nation faces today makes it so millions of citizens live in want, and millions more live in fear.
We live in a land where true poverty is all but eliminated. Wanting the latest gadgets and the coolest clothes is not want. Going to bed hungry and having no idea where your next meal will come from is want. It doesn't happen much in our country, sorry if that offends you. Fear, now you don't ever want to be afraid. Well, I'm sure we can find a padded cell for you somewhere. You won't have to worry about anything making you afraid then.
If a foreign entity attempted to inflict the amount of damage that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did in the past eight years on our country, we would recognize the need to go to war to defend our nation. But the greatest threats to our country are never from the outside. The greatest danger comes from within.
Ah this meme again. Will you ever getting around to something specific?
In discussing this very topic, President Lincoln states, "At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."
Thus spaketh the first tyrant to suspend freedom of speech and make war on this, his own country. Your side is the one pushing for ever greater infringement of freedom. Your side wants laws to determine who must hire who. Your side wants to call speech hate crime. Your side wants to force people to associate. Your side wants government in the house. You need to take a look at what you call freedom, because what you call freedom would surprise a ante-bellum slave.
In recent weeks, I have been contacted by representatives of groups and individuals asking for contributions for democrats in Washington, who are preparing to face re-election challenges in 2010. I am certainly in favor of supporting the efforts to elect and re-elect democrats to office. But I am no longer willing to donate – either time or money – to help those who are unwilling to hold Bush and Cheney responsible for the crimes they committed in office. I appreciate that others may not feel the same way; this is fine, they can contribute to whomever they please. I understand that there are a variety of other urgent issues that have to be addressed. But having those who posed a threat to our nation held responsible for their actions seems to me to be an important part of fighting to protect the four essential human freedoms.
Blah, blah, blah, Bush and Cheney, blah, blah, blah. Are you going to get into the specific details of a crime yet, or is Bush made of wood if he floats on water?
david13 (243 posts) Mon Mar-16-09 07:01 PM
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2. I see a big one missing here. How about freedom
from religion, religious freedom to have no 'religion' if you choose, freedom to not believe, like Barack Obama says.
How about freedom from having a religion established and become the law of the land.
dc
So you think the Kenyan Marxist doesn't believe in an established religion? Wait until he mandates that you worship him, unlucky dave.
Naturyl (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 07:21 PM
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4. Freedom from want needs more attention.
And people need to realize that "freedom from want" is unconditional - half-measures and qualifications don't work. Either people are unconditionally *entitled* to the basic necessities of life or they aren't. Period.
So, hairy, if I have a want, can I pull a gun on you and take until I have my want satisfied? Would it be better if I sent an agent on my behalf to take from you until my want is satisfied? Robbery, you say?
leftstreet (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 07:29 PM
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5. FDR proposed a 2nd Bill of Rights - Economic Rights
Second Bill of Rights
The Second Bill of Rights was a proposal made by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt during his State of the Union Address on January 11, 1944 to suggest that the nation had come to recognize, and should now implement, a second bill of rights. Roosevelt did not argue for any change to the United States Constitution; he argued that the second bill of rights was to be implemented politically, not by federal judges. Roosevelt's stated justification was that the "political rights" guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights had "proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness." Roosevelt's remedy was to create an "economic bill of rights" which would guarantee:
A job with a living wage
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies
Homeownership
Medical care
Education
Recreation
Roosevelt stated that having these rights would guarantee American security, and that America's place in the world depended upon how far these and similar rights had been carried into practice.
Yet every country that has tried this has failed and failed miserably.
Me. (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-16-09 11:56 PM
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18. As long As People Remain Hungry & Homeless We Are Sitting On A Tinderbox
The numbers are those who have nothing to lose are growing
As for Cheney and chums, I do believe they are totally mental. Cheney with his revisionist lies, the likes of Gaffney trying to make the case that Saddam had a hand in Oklahoma City. We need a neo-con psych ward.
Do you have any proof there are more homeless now? Do you have any proof that a man that's trying to get a roof on his head is a tinderbox? If such a man exists is he still outnumbered 1000 to 1 by those who are able to function in reality?
DUmmies asking mommy government to take away reality, it scares them.
