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CIA used waterboarding three times
« on: February 05, 2008, 12:49:42 PM »
Well it seems that the CIA admitted to using waterboarding three times.......................and the primitives response??

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swag  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 01:01 PM
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CIA says used waterboarding three times
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The CIA on three occasions shortly after the September 11 attacks used a widely condemned interrogation technique known as waterboarding, CIA Director Michael Hayden told Congress on Tuesday.

"Waterboarding has been used on only three detainees," Hayden told the Senate Intelligence Committee, publicly specifying the number of subjects and naming them for the first time, as Congress considers banning the technique.

Those subjected to waterboarding were al Qaeda suspects Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, Hayden said.

He said waterboarding has not been used in five years, but it was used then because of concerns of imminent catastrophic attacks on the United States and because authorities had limited knowledge of al Qaeda
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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN051781...

 
Well, looks like a good reason......or so I think, lets see what the Primitives have to say

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Barrett808 (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:03 PM
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1. Well, then, that puts my mind at ease 

 
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flyarm  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:08 PM
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2. well then he admitted war crimes..now who ordered it..they should be arrested immediately! 
 and turned over to the international courts!

fly

 
When will they understand that the US doesn't give a shit about the International courts??

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swag  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 01:08 PM
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3. US has prosecuted waterboarding as torture in the past
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

The United States has a historical record of regarding waterboarding as a crime, and has prosecuted individuals for the use of the practice in the past. In 1947, the United States prosecuted a Japanese military officer, Yukio Asano, for carrying out a form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian during World War II. Yukio Asano received a sentence of 15 years of hard labor.<31> The charges of Violation of the Laws and Customs of War against Asano also included "beating using hands, fists, club; kicking; burning using cigarettes; strapping on a stretcher head downward."<74>

In its 2005 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, the U.S. Department of State formally recognized "submersion of the head in water" as torture in its examination of Tunisia's poor human rights record,<75> and critics of waterboarding draw parallels between the two techniques, citing the similar usage of water on the subject. On September 6, 2006, the U.S. Department of Defense released a revised Army Field Manual entitled Human Intelligence Collector Operations that prohibits the use of waterboarding by U.S. military personnel. The department adopted the manual amid widespread criticism of U.S. handling of prisoners in the War on Terrorism, and prohibits other practices in addition to waterboarding. The revised manual applies only to U.S. military personnel, and as such does not apply to the practices of the CIA.<76> However, under international law, violators of the laws of war are criminally liable under the command responsibility, and could still be prosecuted for war crimes.<77>

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citizen_jane  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:09 PM
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4. Wonder how many
 more they are not admitting
to, and how much further they
have pushed the boundaries of
so called enhanced interrogation
techniques.


Always a conspiracy.......................ya bunch of idjits

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simskl (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 01:10 PM
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5. Didn't we hang Japanese Officers
 for water boarding during WWII? Now that this administration has come out and admitted to war crimes I'd really like to see the whole ****ing bunch in front of a judge in The Hague.

I can't believe that one single administration has been able to make me embarrassed to be an American, it's pathetic it truly is.


No actually it's you that embarrasses us that you and the other primitives are Americans

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IanDB1  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:22 PM
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10. I think we hung our own soldiers for waterboarding prisoners, too. n/t
 
 
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sofa king (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:16 PM
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6. So that's three times the cat got out of the bag.
 We can safely assume that thereafter, a system was put in place so that their interrogation techniques were better concealed.


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leveymg (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:16 PM
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7. Not three "times", three victims. CIA already admitted it waterboarded KSM repeatedly. 
 Wouldn't be terribly surprised if it comes out the other two also suffered partial drowning more than once.


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alfredo  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:17 PM
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8. That doesn't mean shit. The CIA isn't the only agency that can do
 the deed. And what about mercenaries like Dynacorp, Blackwater, and others?
 

Oh FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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IanDB1  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 01:21 PM
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9. When did he stop waterboarding his wife? Oh, 5 years ago? Well, it's okay then? n/t 

 
Unhinged???

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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 03:09:22 PM »
And more on this from a favorite primitive named malaise

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malaise  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 03:27 PM
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CIA Director Hayden confirms names of torture/waterboarding victims
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23012160 /
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CIA Director Michael Hayden on Tuesday publicly confirmed for the first time the names of three suspected al-Qaida terrorists who were subjected to a particularly harsh interrogation technique known as waterboarding, and why.

As for waterboarding, it was used on only three people more than five years ago. For the first time, he identified them in public — Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah, and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. Mohammed was the purported mastermind of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the United States.

They were subjected to waterboarding "because of the circumstances of the time — the belief that additional catastrophic attacks were imminent at a time when the U.S. had limited knowledge of how al-Qaida worked," Hayden.
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In other words TORTURE

Calling the prosecutors in The Hague - Bush and Cheney are guilty of crimes against humanity

Edit -headline


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L. Coyote  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 03:56 PM
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1. That pretty much seals the impeachment case!
 Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 03:57 PM by L. Coyote
And, at the same time we believe the new fallback position/admission is the WHOLE STORY because...?????


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madokie  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 04:03 PM
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2. this will come back and bite the bushco right square in the arse, as it should

 
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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 03:19:13 PM »
*'s bird wouldn't talk


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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 03:26:21 PM »
In order to care about this, for me, there would have to be a sympathetic victim.  There isn't.  Waterboard Khalid Sheik Muhammad all you want.  I don't give a damn. :censored:
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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 03:27:24 PM »
Earth to DUmmies...... nobody gives a shit what you think on this.... especially when it comes to protecting Americans and getting the information out of Akhmed.

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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 04:27:07 PM »
And another one.......................CHIMPEACHMENT!!!

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babsbunny  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 04:57 PM
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Can we Impeach them yet?..CIA admits waterboarding inmates 
 Advertisements [?]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7229169.stm

The CIA has for the first time publicly admitted using the controversial method of "waterboarding" on terror suspects.
CIA director Michael Hayden told Congress however that it had only been used on three people, and not at all for the past five years.

He said the technique had been used on high-profile al-Qaeda detainees including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Waterboarding is an interrogation technique in which the detainee is put in fear of drowning.

Mr Hayden was speaking as National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell presented his annual threat assessment.

We used it against these three detainees because of the circumstances at the time,

Some critics describe the procedure as torture and Congress has been debating banning its use by the CIA.
 

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rateyes  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 05:03 PM
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4. Dammit. Congress doesn't have to ban its use...
 it's already banned. It is torture, and torture is illegal.

Quit *****footing around on this Congress. Do your damned job and start PROSECUTING THESE BASTARDS!!

Quit asking Mukasey if waterboarding is torture. That question has already been answered by our courts when we prosecuted others for it under war crimes statutes.

Quit protecting these assholes. PROSECUTE THEM AND PUT THEIR SORRY ASSES IN PRISON.


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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 04:56:41 PM »
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swag  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 01:01 PM
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CIA says used waterboarding three times
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The CIA on three occasions shortly after the September 11 attacks used a widely condemned interrogation technique known as waterboarding, CIA Director Michael Hayden told Congress on Tuesday.

WTF?!?!

Only THREE times?

I have been buying waterboarding credits for six years now with the hopes of using them FREELY on the DUmmys when we "admit" them to our re-education camps.

I gave half of these waterboarding credits to the CIA so they can retain this method of interrogating FOD's (Friends of Dummy's) while keeping the impact on their war chest at a minimum.

SON-OF-A-@&^%!!

These damn waterboarding credits are becoming as worthless as that pile of carbon credits I have sitting in the corner.

Harrrumph!!!
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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 06:26:24 PM »
I really don't give two shits what anybody else thinks, I hope that the next attack from the islamic hordes hits the DUchebags, hollywood illiteratti, San fran fags, Berkely hippies, NYC elites and other liberal assholes real hard. I just don't give a shit about them.
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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 07:41:45 PM »
I thought we already knew waterboarding was used.  Especially on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who I think I heard lasted the longest, like 2 minutes or something.

Anyway, what are the DUmmie's news sources that they are just learning this?

Maybe we can torture future threats by setting the DUmmies and the Code Pinkos loose on them.  Listening to the DUmmie logic or seeing Code Pinkos up close is enough to make them convert, I would think.
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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 08:31:18 PM »
If it were Ann Coulter or Fred Phelps being waterboarded the DUmmies would be cheering it on.   :whatever:
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Re: CIA used waterboarding three times
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 10:14:47 PM »
In order to care about this, for me, there would have to be a sympathetic victim.  There isn't.  Waterboard Khalid Sheik Muhammad all you want.  I don't give a damn. :censored:

I agree, who cares,evil bastards. I wouldn't mind seeing a few others get it as well.


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