The idiocy being shown today in the DUmp is rather.............well normal, but a little more than normal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2787554Cant trust em (759 posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:13 PM
Original message
I'm 27 years old, the only president I've really experienced is Bush
The first presidential election I was able to vote in was stolen. Then we had 9/11. Then we went to war based on lies. Then we had a candidate with an impeccable war record, the result of which was the birth of the term "swift-boat". I'm looking forward to November, but if things don't go well I don't know what I'm going to do.
fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. right their with ya
26 and im so disillusioned about all of the top3, hoping for the best, expecting the worst here.
fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. yeah I was in the desert, didnt really get a chance to protest.
Fabio (721 posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. desert or sandbox?
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 04:35 PM by Fabio
been over there too.
one anti war protest for me -- during the RNC -- otherwise I keep my anti-war sentiments to myself and friends and places like this.
fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:56 PM
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26. I was in the army when shrub took office
Had to go to iraq, good thing though, I was just commo so I didn't have to fire my weapon and mostly what my job was, was making sure soldiers could phone home and use email.
Fabio (721 posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. I got out in the mid/late 90s
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 05:00 PM by Fabio
and was in 19th Group SF on 9/11 which led to six months in afghanistan in 2002. One of the best experiences of my life in many ways, worst in others.
Somethings not computing......
zanne (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:39 PM
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14. You're way too young to be so cynical...
Politics is full of disappointments. People older than you have been just as disappointed, but we know that being cynical is just wasted time. If you want hope, volunteer for a candidate who's more to your liking. You won't get everything you want out of one politician, though. Nothing is perfect.
Fabio (721 posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. Lol on you.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 04:56 PM by Fabio
After serving the nation in uniform twice and in war, quitting a lucrative job to join Kerry's campaign full time/ unpaid for 18 months and working on various issue specific policy initiatives and non-profits, I think I am DOING just fine. On the other hand, I am having a hard time deciding whether I want to have children and thinking their future through.
Ahhh.......computing now, but I'm not believeing this shit
zanne (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #25
32. Oh please. The sky isns't falling.
You've been through alot, but who hasn't? I have 55 years of stories like yours. You can't just refuse to live a full life because you've decided to be so cynical that you're afraid.
Strange optimism in the hive...........
fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. yeah I can read the writing on the wall
and I can see history. I read books. I understand that every state eventually becomes a failed state through one means or another. Countries have their ups and downs but eventually they go down and stay down and then their is a new political rebirth and a new entity emerges. This may not be the end of america but bush is just the start of a very dark period in america. I am a citizen of a nation that has committed horrible atrocities, maybe not the most in scope or scale, but deffinatly it does not act like a civilized country should. I'm cynical? I think that if you don't see the danger and what subversive elements are at work beyond politics then you have your head in the sand.
Yeah.....and??
Cant trust em (759 posts) Tue Jan-29-08 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #21
39. I understand where you're coming from
obviously there are a lot of negative trends that are going on. But I do think that things are swinging back in our favor. Watershed events like 9/11 that change the course of history don't happen every day. We're at the end of an era that has been the opposite of what we stand for but and it's not going to change overnight. The bonus is that GWB scorched the earth so to speak and so many people are seeing how bad it is that they are rejecting those philosophies now. We're not at the progressive utopia that you and I both want, but I'll take it one day at a time, one election at a time and one campaign at a time.
Patmccccc (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:15 PM
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3. On the bright side, can only look up from here
Unless they steal it. Be alert everyone, keep your camera phones handy
This shit just gets tiring
Digital Press (3 posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:39 PM
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15. Election not stolen war record not impeachable
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 04:39 PM by Digital Press
The election was decided by the laws of the State of Florida which prevented it from being
"stolen". And if there was an impeachable offense impeachment proceedings would have already taken place. You can replace the term swift-boat with truth and you have the reason Kerry lost.
That was not.....I repeat not an earthquake, that was thousand of alert buttons being pushed at one time.
geomon666 (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Aha! Enjoy your stay sir or madam. n/t
zanne (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. Yup. Two posts and no profile. A real keeper! nt
zanne (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. WTH--Enjoy your very short stay, D. Press. nt
rucky (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #15
42. We got a real-life 25-percenter!
This is like a visit from the Easter Bunny!
rucky (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 05:22 PM
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41. Sadly, I didn't appreciate the Clinton years when they were happening. n/t
Holy hell, that's gonna leave a mark
devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-29-08 05:25 PM
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44. Is it safe to assume that you're impressed with the way the GOP runs the country?
Haven't they proven to you how worthy they are? Don't you feel safer with them in power?
Are you better off now than in 2000?