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Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« on: October 30, 2008, 01:25:17 PM »
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When last we heard from Helen Jones-Kelley, the director of Ohio’s Job and Family Services Division insisted that she has everyone who gets public attention checked to see if they owe family support.  Now, with more details about the searches performed on Joe Wurzelbacher becoming public, Jones-Kelley acknowledges she didn’t quite tell the entire truth at first.  Her department also ran checks on taxes and welfare payments to see if they could catch Joe the Plumber cheating the system:
A state agency has revealed that its checks of computer systems for potential information on “Joe the Plumber” were more extensive than it first acknowledged.
Helen Jones-Kelley, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, disclosed today that computer inquiries on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher were not restricted to a child-support system.
The agency also checked Wurzelbacher in its computer systems to determine whether he was receiving welfare assistance or owed unemployment compensation taxes, she wrote.
Jones-Kelley made the revelations in a letter to Ohio Senate President Bill M. Harris, R-Ashland, who demanded answers on why state officials checked out Wurzelbacher.
Harris called the multiple records checks “questionable” and said he awaits more answers. “It’s kind of like Big Brother is looking in your pocket,” he said.

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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 01:39:33 PM »
Methinks she's about to kiss that job of 13 years good-bye...... :uhsure:
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 01:45:53 PM »
Quote from: debk on October 30, 2008, 01:39:33 PM
Methinks she's about to kiss that job of 13 years good-bye...... :uhsure:

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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 01:48:17 PM »
She waits five days, she is in line for a promotion
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 01:58:00 PM »
As one poster at Hotair opined, "Looks like jackboots are in season..."
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 02:00:50 PM »
Quote from: Baruch Menachem on October 30, 2008, 01:48:17 PM
She waits five days, she is in line for a promotion

Methinks I see a ceremonial sword on display here.  She shall be rewarded, one way or another.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 02:07:46 PM »
Funny you put it that way, freedumb.  Back in the old Soviet Union, there was an expression for foreign service operators (read: spies).  They said that when you came home you kissed a medal or a bullet--either way, you kissed lead.

Oh, the similarities one could draw between Obama and the Soviets, and not just in political philosophies, but in methodology as well.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 08:42:29 AM »

buried in the penultimate paragraph of the columbus dispatch story.

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Jones-Kelly also has denied any connections between the computer checks on Wurzelbacher and her support for Obama. She donated the maximum $2,500 this year to the Obama campaign.

yeah.  right.  :thatsright:

at the risk of offending our worthy forum members from ohio, that is one MESSED up state.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 09:57:05 AM »
A little taste of the U.S. under Obama if he wins.  Speak out against Obama?  Find your every orifice searched and scrutinized.

And who really believes this one little peon is the end all and be all of this?
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2008, 10:59:55 AM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on October 31, 2008, 09:57:05 AM
A little taste of the U.S. under Obama if he wins.  Speak out against Obama?  Find your every orifice searched and scrutinized.

And who really believes this one little peon is the end all and be all of this?

We all will fall under the Obamassiah's scrutiny if we speak out against him or his minions.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2008, 11:02:47 AM »
an anecdotal factoid from ohio.  I work with a guy from ashland county, ohio.  his folks get polled multiple times a night, by the way.  he noticed on CNN that they had ashland county "flipping democrat".  in 2004, bush took that county 65% (16,209) - 34% (8,576).

one of two things is going on.  either the national media are spectacularly f_cked in the head, or the republicans are about to get blown out on a galactic scale.




edited to correct stupid number transposition error.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2008, 11:39:21 AM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 31, 2008, 11:02:47 AM
an anecdotal factoid from ohio.  I work with a guy from ashland county, ohio.  his folks get polled multiple times a night, by the way.  he noticed on CNN that they had ashland county "flipping democrat".  in 2004, bush took that county 65% (16,209) - 43% (8,576).

one of two things is going on.  either the national media are spectacularly f_cked in the head, or the republicans are about to get blown out on a galactic scale.





No wonder we're ****ed this year.  The democrats see Bush won that county with 108% of the registered voters counted, now they want to replicate that with 105% victories for Teh Obamessiah.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2008, 11:39:52 AM »
She'll head up the new joint Dept of Justice/FCC operation known as The Ministry of Truth.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2008, 12:04:36 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on October 31, 2008, 11:39:21 AM
No wonder we're ****ed this year.  The democrats see Bush won that county with 108% of the registered voters counted, now they want to replicate that with 105% victories for Teh Obamessiah.

I corrected my post incorrectly, so now I have to correct my correction.  it was 65-34.  here is the link in case I f_ck it up again.:doh:

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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2008, 03:31:42 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 31, 2008, 12:04:36 PM
I corrected my post incorrectly, so now I have to correct my correction.  it was 65-34.  here is the link in case I f_ck it up again.:doh:



Just remember, WE.  The WEekend is almost here.   :cheersmate:
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2008, 03:46:52 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on October 31, 2008, 03:31:42 PM
Just remember, WE.  The WEekend is almost here.   :cheersmate:

exactly.  my miller lite levels are dangerously low. :uhsure:
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 03:41:41 AM »
An update...

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Vanessa Niekamp said that when was asked to run a child-support check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16, she thought it routine. A supervisor told her the man had contacted the state agency about his case.

Niekamp didn't know she just had checked on "Joe the Plumber," who was elevated the night before to presidential politics prominence as Republican John McCain's example in a debate of an average American.

The senior manager would not learn about "Joe" for another week, when she said her boss informed her and directed her to write an e-mail stating her computer check was a legitimate inquiry.

The reason Niekamp said she was given for checking if there was a child-support case on Wurzelbacher does not match the reason given by the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/31/joe.html?sid=101
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2008, 03:46:30 AM »
Quote from: Chris on November 01, 2008, 03:41:41 AM
An update...

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/31/joe.html?sid=101
I do hope someone gets punished for this, it is an outrage. It is the sort of think that the Labour government here has done. (I remember a 90 year old woman was smeared by a govt. Minister as a racist for daring to complain about the Health Service).  If Obama wins he will make Watergate look like a party game.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2008, 03:54:20 AM »
Quote from: bijou on November 01, 2008, 03:46:30 AM
I do hope someone gets punished for this, it is an outrage. It is the sort of think that the Labour government here has done. (I remember a 90 year old woman was smeared by a govt. Minister as a racist for daring to complain about the Health Service).  If Obama wins he will make Watergate look like a party game.

It makes Clinton's IRS audits look quaint by comparison.  What's the tally on the number of state entities snooping into this guy's personal life?  Three?  Four?

I remember all the "invasion of privacy" cries from the left when it came to FISA.  I guess they're only concerned about rights when it comes to terrorists and murderers.
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Re: Ohio official admits Wurzelbacher search went farther than she first stated
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2008, 10:26:29 AM »
An update...

Jones-Kelley put on administrative leave by governor
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Helen Jones-Kelley, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services and former head of that department in Montgomery County, has been placed on paid administrative leave by Gov. Ted Strickland.

Strickland said on Friday, Nov. 7, that he took the action “due to the possibility, as yet unconfirmed, that a state computer or state e-mail account was used to assist in political fund raising.”

“I have asked Inspector General Tom Charles to include this matter in his current, ongoing investigation,” Strickland said in a press release.

Strickland said he has asked Jan Allen, his cabinet secretary, to serve as acting director of the agency.

Charles already was investigating reports that a department computer was used to gather personal information about “Joe the Plumber” — Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher of suburban Toledo — after Wurzelbacher emerged as a key figure in the presidential race in Ohio. The information included whether he owed child support, which he said he didn’t.
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