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Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« on: January 25, 2008, 10:09:00 AM »
http://www.democraticwarrior.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13912

Oh my.

I went over to Big Jerry's salon, for the first time in a long time. 

They have a "make a case for impeachment" forum now.  I haven't checked it out yet, but it's going to be interesting, seeing what high crimes and misdemeanors George Bush has committed, like lying to a grand jury or something.  I'll check it out later.

Anyway.

Fat Che, still desperate to get back onto Skins' island:

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Want to see what makes DU admins wake up in a cold sweat?

Their traffic graph:

after which a graph showing traffic on Skins's island

I think this absolutely has to do with admin policy and the actions of bad mods.

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ah, nobody said anything about mods, Dude...

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Oh, I believe some of the mods are happy! I think some are shills put there to destroy DU as a political force. I need only point to Paddy and Cuban Liberal for examples. Current ones are far more subtle than they were.

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I miss those guys!!

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Well, I miss the guys I thought they were before they outed themselves as deep-cover RW trolls! I was a DU Moderator when Padraig was a DU Moderator, and felt really ill-used when he was found out.

And I think we can all think of one or two DU moderators who are also probably deep-cover RW trolls right now, can't we, Ma'am?

HEY, "Padraig"

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And which DU mods are those, hmmm?

After which the neanderthalics speculate about trolls being moderators on Skins's island.

But it's mostly sour grapes by Fat Che, still upset that he violated the rules of Skins's island, and suffered the forewarned consequences of violating those rules.

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Blue

The precipitous decline started about when they started banning a lot of good Democrats because mods they had had it "in" for them. People leave boards like this in groups, generally, and they managed to find people to ban who were in many different affinity groups.

But remember; DU is the place that deleted the posting I made prior to Katrina telling people to GET OUT of Nawlins because the dikes were NOT going to hold and that thousands would die, and that Nawlins was about to be destroyed, calling it "SCARE MONGERING"!!!!

Now, if you want to read that posting you have to go to Conservative Underground where they similarly criticized me for scare mongering!

You might be tempted to thing that CUers moderate DU, now, wouldn't you? Well, some DO.

SO, if you are still in DU, GET OUT! A flood of bullshit is coming!

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And did even ONE of the mods or admins apologize for calling it "Scare Mongering"? NOPE. Not even in private. Not ONE.

That was when they really "lost" me. After that it was just a matter of how long it would take for them to ban me for criticizing the way DU does things.

And don't EVEN get me going on the threat Skinner sent me after Mongo and I proposed a group for Democrats with alternative sexuality and public policy issues that pertain to that. (This after a poll that determined that there are more kinky DUers than anybody imagined!)

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The current meltdown is causing a traffic spike. I wonder what this graph will look like in October? I wonder if they will still register on Alexa?

The "current meltdown" was occurring in summer 2007; this is an old thread, but there isn't much traffic at Big Jerry's salon.....and alas! for Fat Che, Skins's island some months later is still registering on Alexa.

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Well my 1st post here might as well be to you. I wondered why I haven't seen your name "over there" for a while and now I know. Hope all is well and good to see you again. I didn't know this forum existed until another good DUer got TS'ed today.

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Yeah, they ditched me exactly a year ago.

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Wow, that traffic spike from the Train Wreck sure petered out to nothing. I think Bush's polls boosts from things like capturing Saddam actually lasted longer, didn't they? DU is actually less popular than George Bush!

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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 10:21:45 AM »
The sad truth is that come 2009, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will sail out of office and into the night without ever being held to account for their incompetence and deceit.

Also, you are not a Yale alumnus.
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 10:24:00 AM »
The sad truth is that come 2009, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will sail out of office and into the night without ever being held to account for their incompetence and deceit.

Also, you are not a Yale alumnus.

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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 10:26:48 AM »
Really funny graphic on that thread: "The White Rose Society -- archiving the best of Progressive Radio."

That should be doable on a 5-1/4" floppy.
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 10:28:52 AM »
The sad truth is that come 2009, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will sail out of office and into the night without ever being held to account for their incompetence and deceit.

Also, you are not a Yale alumnus.
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 10:42:58 AM »
The sad truth is that come 2009, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will sail out of office and into the night without ever being held to account for their incompetence and deceit.

Also, you are not a Yale alumnus.
LOL -- you can't point to a single lie and as far as incompetence goes, Bush has on;y shown problems in his Liberal policies.   
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 11:41:31 AM »

LOL -- you can't point to a single lie...   

I've seen this movie. When someone points out a lie told by George W. Bush or someone high up in his administration, Bush loyalists always respond with some Clintonian excuse intended to explain away the lie as an unintentional misstatement. That said, I excel at excercises in futility...

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Olbermann’s Special Comment: It is not the Democrats whose inaction in the face of the enemy you fear

By: John Amato on Thursday, October 5th, 2006 at 6:30 PM - PDT   

Olbermann: And lastly tonight, a Special Comment, about — lying. While the leadership in Congress has self-destructed over the revelations of an unmatched, and unrelieved, march through a cesspool… While the leadership inside the White House has self-destructed over the revelations of a book with a glowing red cover…

The President of the United States — unbowed, undeterred, and unconnected to reality — has continued his extraordinary trek through our country rooting out the enemies of freedom: The Democrats.

Yesterday at a fundraiser for an Arizona Congressman, Mr. Bush claimed, quote, "177 of the opposition party said 'You know, we don't think we ought to be listening to the conversations of terrorists."

The hell they did.

177 Democrats opposed the President's seizure of another part of the Constitution*.

...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/05/olbermanns-special-comment-it-is-not-the-democrats-whose-inaction-in-the-face-of-the-enemy-you-fear/
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 11:47:26 AM »
The sad truth is that come 2009, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will sail out of office and into the night without ever being held to account for their incompetence and deceit.

Also, you are not a Yale alumnus.

You mean like the Clintons did and continue to do?

And I'm guessing your pedigree doesn't include an Ivy League degree, let alone an advanced degree from one of the most difficult MBA programs in the country, next to USC, Stanford, and Wharton.
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 11:48:18 AM »

LOL -- you can't point to a single lie...   

I've seen this movie. When someone points out a lie told by George W. Bush or someone high up in his administration, Bush loyalists always respond with some Clintonian excuse intended to explain away the lie as an unintentional misstatement. That said, I excel at excercises in futility...

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Olbermann’s Special Comment: It is not the Democrats whose inaction in the face of the enemy you fear

By: John Amato on Thursday, October 5th, 2006 at 6:30 PM - PDT   

Olbermann: And lastly tonight, a Special Comment, about — lying. While the leadership in Congress has self-destructed over the revelations of an unmatched, and unrelieved, march through a cesspool… While the leadership inside the White House has self-destructed over the revelations of a book with a glowing red cover…

The President of the United States — unbowed, undeterred, and unconnected to reality — has continued his extraordinary trek through our country rooting out the enemies of freedom: The Democrats.

Yesterday at a fundraiser for an Arizona Congressman, Mr. Bush claimed, quote, "177 of the opposition party said 'You know, we don't think we ought to be listening to the conversations of terrorists."

The hell they did.

177 Democrats opposed the President's seizure of another part of the Constitution*.

...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/05/olbermanns-special-comment-it-is-not-the-democrats-whose-inaction-in-the-face-of-the-enemy-you-fear/

I believe you and Slobberman went for popcorn during this scene:

Democrats Voted Against Listening In On Terrorist Phone Calls:

177 House Democrats Voted Against The Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act, Which Would Make It Easier To Monitor Terrorist Communications. (H.R. 5825, CQ Vote #502: Passed 232-191: R 214-13; D 18-177; I 0-1, 9/28/06)

http://www.gop.com/News/NewsRead.aspx?Guid=509995ad-3920-4701-8a15-0f1020b259b9

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 11:55:06 AM »

LOL -- you can't point to a single lie...   

I've seen this movie. When someone points out a lie told by George W. Bush or someone high up in his administration, Bush loyalists always respond with some Clintonian excuse intended to explain away the lie as an unintentional misstatement. That said, I excel at excercises in futility...

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Olbermann’s Special Comment: It is not the Democrats whose inaction in the face of the enemy you fear

By: John Amato on Thursday, October 5th, 2006 at 6:30 PM - PDT   

Olbermann: And lastly tonight, a Special Comment, about — lying. While the leadership in Congress has self-destructed over the revelations of an unmatched, and unrelieved, march through a cesspool… While the leadership inside the White House has self-destructed over the revelations of a book with a glowing red cover…

The President of the United States — unbowed, undeterred, and unconnected to reality — has continued his extraordinary trek through our country rooting out the enemies of freedom: The Democrats.

Yesterday at a fundraiser for an Arizona Congressman, Mr. Bush claimed, quote, "177 of the opposition party said 'You know, we don't think we ought to be listening to the conversations of terrorists."

The hell they did.

177 Democrats opposed the President's seizure of another part of the Constitution*.

...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/05/olbermanns-special-comment-it-is-not-the-democrats-whose-inaction-in-the-face-of-the-enemy-you-fear/

You have yet to name a single lie.  Nice dance, but pointless.  I promise not to bring up Clinton, because he is an admitted and adjudicated liar.

Name a single Bush lie. One.
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 12:00:53 PM »
And I'm guessing your pedigree doesn't include an Ivy League degree, let alone an advanced degree from one of the most difficult MBA programs in the country, next to USC, Stanford, and Wharton.


I'm not the one claiming to have an Ivy League degree.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 12:12:32 PM »
I'm not the one claiming to have an Ivy League degree.

Who is? Surely you aren't referring to Frank. I think he graduated from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008, 12:13:31 PM »


Name a single Bush lie. One.

I gave you a clear example of a lie told by Mr. Bush. Bush claimed that 177 Democrats said that the government shouldn't be listening to the conversations of terrorists. Demonstrably not true.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2008, 12:16:07 PM »


Who is? Surely you aren't referring to Frank. I think he graduated from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

Of course I'm referring to Frank. He claims that Skinner is his "fellow alum" when he very well knows that he is not.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2008, 12:21:25 PM »
Of course I'm referring to Frank. Frank claims that he is a Yale alumnus every time he refers to Skinner as being his fellow alumnus.

I think he's talking about U. Nebraska-Lincoln.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2008, 12:27:51 PM »
The sad truth is that come 2009, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will sail out of office and into the night without ever being held to account for their incompetence and deceit.

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And Bill Clinton escaped prison by lying to a Federal Judge. Several women are doing time for doing the exact thing. He was also disbarred. Hillary is a tax dodger also. That $100k she forgot to report could have landed her in the Fed. Pen. Lying and deceit are trademarks of the Clintons.

Those are facts Dipshit.

What you have posted is your opinion. Not a Bush praiser by a long shot but history will decide his legacy not some dimwhit like you. I will be glad to see him go. Don't ever think that things can not possibly get worse and that includes a Hillary or Obama Presidency.

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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2008, 12:28:12 PM »


Name a single Bush lie. One.

I gave you a clear example of a lie told by Mr. Bush. Bush claimed that 177 Democrats said that the government shouldn't be listening to the conversations of terrorists. Demonstrably not true.

No, you are still zero/zero.  It wasn't a lie.  Try again.  The democrats said it with their vote.  That is what the President was talking about.  The President said it in response to the vote, so the President could not possibly have lied.  The vote is in the congressional record.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2008, 12:28:30 PM »
I think he's talking about U. Nebraska-Lincoln.

The person who Frankso claims is his fellow alumnus has not attended any universities in Nebraska.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2008, 12:29:11 PM »

I believe you and Slobberman went for popcorn during this scene:

Democrats Voted Against Listening In On Terrorist Phone Calls:

177 House Democrats Voted Against The Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act, Which Would Make It Easier To Monitor Terrorist Communications. (H.R. 5825, CQ Vote #502: Passed 232-191: R 214-13; D 18-177; I 0-1, 9/28/06)

http://www.gop.com/News/NewsRead.aspx?Guid=509995ad-3920-4701-8a15-0f1020b259b9

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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2008, 12:37:21 PM »
No, you are still zero/zero.  It wasn't a lie.  Try again.  The democrats said it with their vote.  That is what the President was talking about.  The President said it in response to the vote, so the President could not possibly have lied.  The vote is in the congressional record.

You are incorrect.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608210009
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2008, 12:43:49 PM »


Name a single Bush lie. One.

I gave you a clear example of a lie told by Mr. Bush. Bush claimed that 177 Democrats said that the government shouldn't be listening to the conversations of terrorists. Demonstrably not true.

Their vote says otherwise.
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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2008, 12:44:30 PM »


Who is? Surely you aren't referring to Frank. I think he graduated from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

Of course I'm referring to Frank. He claims that Skinner is his "fellow alum" when he very well knows that he is not.
You obviously don't understand the reference Frank made. If I recall correctly, he never claimed to attend the same university as Skinner but did share the same professor at one point. He also made it clear on CU what he meant by "my fellow alum". You must have missed it.
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2008, 12:44:51 PM »
No, you are still zero/zero.  It wasn't a lie.  Try again.  The democrats said it with their vote.  That is what the President was talking about.  The President said it in response to the vote, so the President could not possibly have lied.  The vote is in the congressional record.

You are incorrect.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608210009

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Re: Fat Che sups on sour grapes; makes my fellow alum Skins sweat
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2008, 12:50:02 PM »
No, you are still zero/zero.  It wasn't a lie.  Try again.  The democrats said it with their vote.  That is what the President was talking about.  The President said it in response to the vote, so the President could not possibly have lied.  The vote is in the congressional record.

You are incorrect.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608210009

No, I'm not incorrect.  Your 'source' is not credible in the least. 

It is hilarity-plus that you would go so far to be dishonest trying to prove the dishonesty of someone else.  It is so typical liberal that I am shocked you guys still try to get away with it.  You liberals exist on the short memories of your targets. 

My advice to you is to quit lying about how the President lied.  It makes you seem too stupid to post here. 

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2008, 01:22:23 PM »
what do you expect? The MSM carries the water for the left and touts Soros-funded "studies" as the complete truth....

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/23/msm-tools-spread-soros-propaganda/
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