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DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« on: January 24, 2008, 11:54:30 PM »
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Bleachers7  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 12:46 PM
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DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
   
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Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 02:00 PM
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40. Yes, we know know how you vote in polls.
   
We have never made a secret of the fact that we can see how you vote in polls. In fact, I admitted it just a couple days ago, in a thread eerily similar to the "dogshit" thread, albeit not nearly as over-the-top. For the record, the "dogshit" poll is only the second time we have ever banned people for voting a particular way in poll. The first time was a few months back -- I can't remember the exact wording, but the basic idea was that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

This is really quite simple.

I would prefer not to be the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit." I would also prefer not to be the administrator of a website where a bunch of people are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

I also believe that the vast majority of people here would prefer that they not be associated with a website where a significant proportion of our membership expresses agreement with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit" or that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

Oh, and then there's the fact that we have many fellow DUers -- black Christians and Jews -- who probably don't appreciate knowing that a significant proportion of DU members are willing to vote for the racist or anti-semitic option on polls.

As I said, we would prefer that our site not be known as a place where its okay to say that "black Christians are dogshit" or that the Holocaust is a fraud perpetrated by Jews. If members think it's productive or funny to make it look like we tolerate that kind of thing, then they should be prepared to take the consequences.

This is all probably going to be moot anyway. Because in a few months when we unveil our complete overhaul of the site, how you vote on polls is probably going to be made public so everyone can see it.

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68. Another question, as an Agnostic I have no dog at this party
   
but would you have the same policy if the poll was- "White Christians are dogshit" ?

 
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80. Honestly, I'm not sure.
   
White Christians don't really have a history of being victims of discrimination or racism in our society.


If people are smart they won't test the boundaries to find out what we would do. Obviously, calling any group of people "dogshit" based solely on their skin color or religion or other irrelevant characteristic is despicable.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 12:02:49 AM »
Gotta love a site that bans people for voting the wrong way on a stupid poll.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 12:06:29 AM »
Gotta love a site that bans people for voting the wrong way on a stupid poll.

it was a pretty vicious poll.  "are black christians dogshit?".  it's strange that they left the offensive poll undeleted, though.  it's at the link on the original DU post.  they are making a "statement", I suppose.



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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 12:08:58 AM »
Gotta love a site that bans people for voting the wrong way on a stupid poll.

it was a pretty vicious poll.  "are black christians dogshit?".  it's strange that they left the offensive poll undeleted, though.  it's at the link on the original DU post.  they are making a "statement", I suppose.




Vicious poll or not I think it's wrong to ban folks for that. Hell there are times I vote in polls with a smart ass answer.

I do find it strange too that it wasn't nuked must be $kimmer left it up as an example.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 12:09:26 AM »
I support that action.  If Reb didn't want rascist pricks here, would any of us say anything about him banning them?
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 12:11:13 AM »
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70. Why wasn't the person who started that poll banned?
   
Just wondering.

 
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79. He was not banned...
   
...because he did not express agreement with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit."

I'm not going to defend the guy. His poll was crap, no doubt. But posting crap has never been a one-strike-and-you're-out offense on DU. Particularly now during primary season, when half the messages posted here are crap.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 12:11:50 AM »
I support that action.  If Reb didn't want rascist pricks here, would any of us say anything about him banning them?

I would think that we would weed out the racist pricks by their posts not a vote in a poll.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 12:15:23 AM »
I support that action.  If Reb didn't want rascist pricks here, would any of us say anything about him banning them?

I doubt that poll would last long enough here to get voted on, followed by a "what the hell are you thinking" PM.  things would progress from there.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 12:15:45 AM »
I support that action.  If Reb didn't want rascist pricks here, would any of us say anything about him banning them?

I would think that we would weed out the racist pricks by their posts not a vote in a poll.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 12:17:44 AM »
I support that action.  If Reb didn't want rascist pricks here, would any of us say anything about him banning them?

I would think that we would weed out the racist pricks by their posts not a vote in a poll.

Work smarter, not harder.

WE made a good point if some chucklehead here posted a poll like that in the first place it probably wouldn't be there long enough to get any votes.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 12:18:57 AM »
True, and I doubt the admin here would use such a method.  But it's one that works.  Can't begrudge a man for using something like that on a forum 50 times the size of this one.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 12:20:55 AM »
True, and I doubt the admin here would use such a method.  But it's one that works.  Can't begrudge a man for using something like that on a forum 50 times the size of this one.

Well he is just trying to cover up the true colors of his followers.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008, 12:21:16 AM »
WE made a good point if some chucklehead here posted a poll like that in the first place it probably wouldn't be there long enough to get any votes.

it wouldn't if I saw it.  and I am sure any of the mods or admins would whack it as well. 

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2008, 12:22:40 AM »
True, and I doubt the admin here would use such a method.  But it's one that works.  Can't begrudge a man for using something like that on a forum 50 times the size of this one.

Well he is just trying to cover up the true colors of his followers.

I actually thought the thread was as anti-christian as it was racist.  but that is just my take.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2008, 12:26:08 AM »
WE made a good point if some chucklehead here posted a poll like that in the first place it probably wouldn't be there long enough to get any votes.

it wouldn't if I saw it.  and I am sure any of the mods or admins would whack it as well. 

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lol thanks. A few lines are ok it's when they take up 1/2 the page that it gets to me.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2008, 12:26:18 AM »
True, and I doubt the admin here would use such a method.  But it's one that works.  Can't begrudge a man for using something like that on a forum 50 times the size of this one.

Well he is just trying to cover up the true colors of his followers.

No, he was trying to get rid of the types of people he didn't want on his forum.  Skinners a moonbat, I'll give him that.  But he does have the courage to draw the lines at some behaviors, and I'll tip my hat to him on that.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2008, 12:31:22 AM »
True, and I doubt the admin here would use such a method.  But it's one that works.  Can't begrudge a man for using something like that on a forum 50 times the size of this one.

Well he is just trying to cover up the true colors of his followers.

No, he was trying to get rid of the types of people he didn't want on his forum.  Skinners a moonbat, I'll give him that.  But he does have the courage to draw the lines at some behaviors, and I'll tip my hat to him on that.

Then he needs to ban a hell of a lot more people there a lot of DUmmies are racist.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2008, 12:45:14 AM »
Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 02:00 PM
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40. Yes, we know know how you vote in polls.
   
SNIP...

I would prefer not to be the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit." I would also prefer not to be the administrator of a website where a bunch of people are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

END SNIP...


Does he not realize that he IS the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that black Christians, as well as all other Christians, are dogshit.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2008, 12:47:02 AM »
Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 02:00 PM
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40. Yes, we know know how you vote in polls.
   
SNIP...

I would prefer not to be the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit." I would also prefer not to be the administrator of a website where a bunch of people are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

END SNIP...


Does he not realize that he IS the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that black Christians, as well as all other Christians, are dogshit.

yeah, that ship has already sailed, hasn't it?  if he was being truthful, he would have said that he didn't want anyone to know that he was the admin of a site where 40% of the members are racist and/or anti-christian.


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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
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Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 02:00 PM
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40. Yes, we know know how you vote in polls.
   
SNIP...

I would prefer not to be the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit." I would also prefer not to be the administrator of a website where a bunch of people are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

END SNIP...


Does he not realize that he IS the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that black Christians, as well as all other Christians, are dogshit.

yeah, that ship has already sailed, hasn't it?  if he was being truthful, he would have said that he didn't want anyone to know that he was the admin of a site where 40% of the members are racist and/or anti-christian.



That's what strikes me as odd/hypocritical/disingenuous.  How can you not see the bigotry.  I guess, to a DUmmie, becoming a socialist absolves you of your personal beliefs and skin color.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2008, 06:49:16 AM »
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yeah, that ship has already sailed, hasn't it?  if he was being truthful, he would have said that he didn't want anyone to know that he was the admin of a site where 40% of the members are racist and/or anti-christian.

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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2008, 07:06:18 AM »
We can't see how people vote in polls. I like it that way.
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2008, 07:17:43 AM »
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Bleachers7  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 12:46 PM
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DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
   
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Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 02:00 PM
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40. Yes, we know know how you vote in polls.
   
We have never made a secret of the fact that we can see how you vote in polls. In fact, I admitted it just a couple days ago, in a thread eerily similar to the "dogshit" thread, albeit not nearly as over-the-top. For the record, the "dogshit" poll is only the second time we have ever banned people for voting a particular way in poll. The first time was a few months back -- I can't remember the exact wording, but the basic idea was that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

This is really quite simple.

I would prefer not to be the administrator of a website where 40% of poll respondents are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit." I would also prefer not to be the administrator of a website where a bunch of people are perfectly comfortable expressing their agreement -- for whatever reason -- with the idea that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

I also believe that the vast majority of people here would prefer that they not be associated with a website where a significant proportion of our membership expresses agreement with the idea that "black Christians are dogshit" or that the Holocaust was a fraud perpetrated by Jews.

Oh, and then there's the fact that we have many fellow DUers -- black Christians and Jews -- who probably don't appreciate knowing that a significant proportion of DU members are willing to vote for the racist or anti-semitic option on polls.

As I said, we would prefer that our site not be known as a place where its okay to say that "black Christians are dogshit" or that the Holocaust is a fraud perpetrated by Jews. If members think it's productive or funny to make it look like we tolerate that kind of thing, then they should be prepared to take the consequences.

This is all probably going to be moot anyway. Because in a few months when we unveil our complete overhaul of the site, how you vote on polls is probably going to be made public so everyone can see it.

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2rth2pwr  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 04:02 PM
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68. Another question, as an Agnostic I have no dog at this party
   
but would you have the same policy if the poll was- "White Christians are dogshit" ?

 
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 06:52 PM
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80. Honestly, I'm not sure.
   
White Christians don't really have a history of being victims of discrimination or racism in our society.


If people are smart they won't test the boundaries to find out what we would do. Obviously, calling any group of people "dogshit" based solely on their skin color or religion or other irrelevant characteristic is despicable.

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Still farming this thread, but I found this last exchange interesting.


Whew! I almost voted in that poll and was going to reply "No just white christians are dogshit :whatever:" So what skins is saying is "Feel free to bash Christians at will,just make sure their white" So brave that one :whatever:
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Re: DU Admins know how you're voting in polls
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2008, 07:44:54 AM »
Gotta love a site that bans people for voting the wrong way on a stupid poll.
Yeah, that's a CLASSIC DU move.  They ban people for anything over there.  It's amazing they have the number of 1000+ posters that they do.

I made a post long ago with a mole I had in a thread about crime.  They were rambling on how Blacks are treated unfairly and unjustly put in prison.  I pointed out that Blacks account for roughly 13% of our population and roughly 70% of the nations violent crime (citing FBI statistics).  I said such statistics aren't racist, they are factual and they point to a deeper problem - and as long as we didn't address the root causes of violence in Black communities the problem would persist and only get worse.  I suggested it was a cultural problem, not a racial problem and one that could be fixed with the support of the community.

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2008, 07:50:29 AM »
Yeah, that's a CLASSIC DU move.  They ban people for anything over there.  It's amazing they have the number of 1000+ posters that they do.

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