So, you hate socialism?

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orangecrush (34,448 posts)

So, you hate socialism?

chouchou (3,835 posts)
2. It's irritating when someone starts with the Socialism, like people are ruining everybody's life.
They might as well say .."I can't stand Metal Eggs with Corn Flakes." (Don't have the finest what the hell they're talking about)

AZProgressive (30,346 posts)
8. I think a lot of us understand the difference between social democrats and democratic socialists
I actually favor Keynesian economics which was the popular economic theory under FDR and other western nations but I feel the self-described Democratic Socialists bring us closer to that and what they advocate for is similar to Social Democrats in Europe. When Trump wanted to take Greenland, Bernie Sanders wanted to steal their policies rather than the country.

Considering that Democrats did very well in the House of Representatives which includes Democratic Socialists getting elected I feel all this complaining about what candidates call themselves is too late in the process.

LT Barclay (3,455 posts)
9. Somewhere along the way though, either the definitions got scrambled or there needs to be a new label
Because that definition puts socialism a hair away from communism. No one is proposing that. But the model of the Baltic states is also then misleading because even though we can see a difference between socialism and a social democracy but MAGA can’t. And the binary thinking in this country makes it nearly impossible to have an intelligent discussion.

Martin Eden (16,602 posts)
4. What is socialism?
Depending who you ask, you'll get wildly divergent answers.

Many voters are clueless what it means in social democracies with capitalist economies, like advanced Western European countries where healthcare won't bankrupt you and higher education doesn't incur decades of debt.

Here in the USA, "socialism" is a scary word used as a cudgel whenever programs are proposed to actually help people afford what should be a right in an advanced wealthy country.

MadameButterfly (4,825 posts)
15. I agree that the labels Democratic Socialism and Social Democrats have been conflated
The people calling themselves Democratic Socialists are acting like the Social Democrats in Denmark, not the Democratic Socialists in China. But there are factions of the DSA that sound pretty Soviet, and that is a problem. How do we explain to Republicans who are still trying to figure out were Obama was born or defend a party whose platform contains statements almost all of us would disagree with? And yes, it is late to be addressing this.

https://democraticunderground.com/100221641178

Denmark is NOT socialist you idiots. They rank higher on the freedom scale then we do in America

[SVPete]

The meaning of Socialism was made brutally clear to me by reading Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. As a gruesome "Brucie Bonus", the books also gave me insight into the possible fates of my grandmother's brothers, who ceased communicating with her and her family in the late 1920.

A coworker who was a child in the "Boat People" exodus ... a coworker whose father spent some of her childhood years in a Vietnamese "reeducation" camp ... NoKo's Kim dynasty that has kept generations of Koreans at the edge of starvation ... Mao "Great Leap Forward" that starved millions to death while he traded food for Soviet weapons ... Stalin's Holodomor ... Ethiopia's own version of the Holodomor in the 1970s ... Cambodia's Killing Fields ...


Damn straight I hate Socialism, because I know what it is and what it does!

[RonE]

I don't believe any of the socialist movements in the past were implemented with the design of creating a society where the majority of the population would live in poverty while a chosen few would live as royalty. But, the idealist socialist "vision"  can't figure in the flaws in human nature. Once established, this unfortunate trait happens and we know how it ends.

Also, if this socialist paradise existed, why was private gun ownership so threatening?

For any lurkers, history did not begin when you were born. It doesn't help to model our system after European countries who depend on us for defense and are still broke.

[67 Rover]

 I see, they are the ones that can make socialism work.

[enslaved1]

FIFY, DUmp flies.  Bernie comes immediately to mind. 

[ADsOutburst]

No, I hate the version that was explained to me by historical literature, and a college professor who was born in the Soviet Union.

Morons.

[DefiantSix]

No, I hate the version that was explained to me by historical literature, and a college professor who was born in the Soviet Union.

Morons.

I hate the version of socialism slithering through the United States at the moment, looking for opportunities to add to its - already significant - body count...

Simple enough for you lurking DUmp'Rats???

[ADsOutburst]

Why is it that Democrats used to fervently deny being socialists, but more recently have embraced the term more and more?

[DefiantSix]

Why is it that Democrats used to fervently deny being socialists, but more recently have embraced the term more and more?

Because more and more they're looking forward to adding their opponents to the enormous body count already racked up by their Marxist predecessors, and their lack of impulse control makes it more and more difficult to hide their intentions.

We aren't just wrong for opposing them, but evil for the depths of our WrongThink and therefore should be destroyed, don't forget...

[FlippyDoo]

Well, you have to remember that, in addition to living in Bizarro world where bad is good, the DUmbAsses take enormous pride in their stupidity.