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Just a serious reminder.....
« on: Today at 07:25:31 AM »
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Just a serious reminder.....

Right now this very moment when you read this, someone is about to die because they couldn't afford healthcare.

Seeing all these posts about Natalie Harp reminded me that sometimes we need to re-center ourselves and lock in. Focus.


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1. We are truly a third world country


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3. And more and more of us wish we had your system. In all ways it is far more honest and above board.

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4. Do the wealthy Norwegians leave their country to avoid paying taxes?

I don't know the answer to that. But I do know that it takes an entirely different mindset and probably a different upbringing, to be willing to pay more than 60% of one's income to the government.

I'm not saying that Americans are better or worse, but we are different. Some Europeans used to come here because they liked our system better. Nowadays, not so much.

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Re: Just a serious reminder.....
« Reply #1 on: Today at 08:03:10 AM »
Nothing is free. Someone pays for it, and it is always the rich and the average taxpayers. **** you and your class envy. :bigbird:
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UpInArms (55,963 posts)
1. We are truly a third world country

I'd wager your home has running water and indoor plumbing. Not to mention heat and A/C. So...


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3. And more and more of us wish we had your system. In all ways it is far more honest and above board.
so easily solved. MOVE!

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Re: Just a serious reminder.....
« Reply #3 on: Today at 08:26:23 AM »
Nothing is free. Someone pays for it, and it is always the rich and the average taxpayers. **** you and your class envy. :bigbird:

Norway's public healthcare system faces notable wait times for non-emergency specialist appointments and elective procedures, though urgent and life-threatening conditions are prioritized

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Re: Just a serious reminder.....
« Reply #4 on: Today at 08:33:10 AM »
"Crowd-fund cancer treatment"? I'm not stupid enough to say that never happens - DUpipo, I'm looking at you - but a family member's cancer treatment is being paid by their employer's health plan. The family member did not have to resort to MediCal or Medicare. Also, the whole process from diagnosis through the currently ongoing treatment had delays between each stage of days or weeks, except for the postponement for our recent 2 1/2 week vacation.

Speaking of matters medical, how's Norway's delay times for diagnostic testing? Here in Silicon Valley, it's been 1-2 weeks for MRI scans. Looking at data for 2024, https://www.statista.com/statistics/282401/density-of-magnetic-resonance-imaging-units-by-country/ , the US is 4th in the world for scanners per capita and close enough to second that the difference is negligible; Japan has the most, not a European country. The chart does not have numbers for Norway, but judging by Scandinavian countries Finland and Denmark, MRI availability in Norway is somewhere between significantly lower and far lower than in the US.

CTI scanners ... this time there is per capita data for Norway, and Norway has much fewer CT scanners than the US. The US is 7th in the world, with Norway 15th, a little bit less than Denmark.

Given Norway's lesser availability of major diagnostic tools, I wonder what the delays for treatments - e.g. chemotherapy infusions or surgery - [i[after[/i] diagnosis delays might be. Some citizens of countries with "free" medical care come to the US for treatments rather than wait out months of possibly critical delays. I wonder how Norwegians fare for delays and for having the financial ability to afford medical tourism.

As for the meme's anti-business :blah, maybe Norway's high taxes hobble Norway's businesses, hurting the businesses in the world marketplace and making Norwegian jobs more scarce than they should be.
If The Vaccine is deadly as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, millions now living would have died.

US Life Expectancy chart illustrating this, https://www.macrotrends.net/datasets/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/life-expectancy

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Re: Just a serious reminder.....
« Reply #5 on: Today at 08:34:56 AM »
Nothing is free. Someone pays for it, and it is always the rich and the average taxpayers. **** you and your class envy. :bigbird:

Norway gets its government not-free-bies with bureaucratic overhead.
If The Vaccine is deadly as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, millions now living would have died.

US Life Expectancy chart illustrating this, https://www.macrotrends.net/datasets/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/life-expectancy