A reminder to all DUers reposting content from social media: Check your sources

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EarlG (23,588 posts)

A reminder to all DUers reposting content from social media: Check your sources

Given the situation in the Middle East, it's understandable that people want to bring the most up-to-date information they can find to DU. In principle, I'm absolutely not opposed to that. In practice, however, it means that some of the content now being brought to DU is being reposted from sources which are not appropriate for our community.

I am talking about social media sources which traffic in right-wing content, racist content, homophobic content, antisemitic content, and conspiracy content, including anti-vax conspiracy theories. Or, more often than not, all of the above.

I will note that DU's "Don't peddle right-wing talking points, smears, or sources" rule does carve out an exception for such sources:


Do not post right-wing talking points or smears. Do not post content sourced from right-wing publications, authors, or pundits. Exceptions are permitted if you provide a clear reason for doing so that is consistent with the values of this website.

Note that if you want to use a source which would typically be considered inappropriate for DU, you need to to give a clear reason for why you're doing it. If the purpose is to point out that MAGA media is turning against Trump, or if you want to highlight the awfulness of a particular X post by some right-wing public figure, then you need to give a clear explanation that that is your intent.

But simply reposting content from neo-Nazi or other extremist social media accounts, just because they've criticized Trump or other Republicans, or because they've posted an update about the war with Iran, does NOT count under the rule exception.

As you know, DU relies on the community to police itself via the Jury system. Of course, not all members serving on Juries are aware of whether certain X accounts are inappropriate, and people are often not likely to bother to check. This can make it easy for inappropriate sources to slip through. If Jury members see a post bashing Trump or Republicans, they are probably likely to think it's okay, and will be unlikely to click through to the X account only to find that it is selling white supremacist T-shirts.

So:

1) To DU members who are reposting content from social media: Please check your sources before posting to make sure that the source is appropriate for DU.

2) To DU members who are serving on Juries for the "Don't peddle right-wing talking points, smears, or sources" rule: Please don't just assume that a social media source is okay if it is bashing Trump -- actually check the source to make sure that it is appropriate for DU. If you do not wish to click through to a social media site to check the source, it is perfectly okay to cancel out of the Jury and let someone else take a look.

Thanks for reading, and for being part of the effort to keep DU clear of bigoted sources and content.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221091629

So this means, no Maga or right wing sources? Business as usual. Keeping the DUmp an echo chamber.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Could he/she/it have written "check your sources" more in that blathering nonsensical post?

That was coded language and a dog whistle to the left to not believe any site that even veers to the right side of Democrat approved talking points.

[Old n Grumpy]

No reichwing material shall soil the purity of the dump!

[FlaGator]

No truth or potential truth shall be posted from a source deemed center or right of center.

[SVPete]

Could he/she/it have written "check your sources" more in that blathering nonsensical post?

That was coded language and a dog whistle to the left to not believe any site that even veers to the right side of Democrat approved talking points.

That post certainly went way beyond my notable tendency toward verbosity. Somehow EarlG could not simply tell DU-folk that Iran and its sympathizers are posting absurd fauxto-AIs* and not to post those or other silly AI memes.


* My favorite absurd AI would be the one purporting to show the torpedoing of the Iranian frigate, showing the torpedo hitting the ship several feet above the waterline. First, that's not how torpedoes work. Second, the Mark 48 torpedo is designed to explode under the target ship, breaking the target's keel. This can be seen in the publicly released periscope video in which the stern of the frigate is blown out of the water and the ship is broken into two or three large sections.

[67 Rover]

That post certainly went way beyond my notable tendency toward verbosity. Somehow EarlG could not simply tell DU-folk that Iran and its sympathizers are posting absurd fauxto-AIs* and not to post those or other silly AI memes.


* My favorite absurd AI purported to be the one purporting to be of the torpedoing of the Iranian frigate Fishing boat, showing the torpedo hitting the ship several feet above the waterline. First, that's not how torpedoes work. Second, the Mark 48 torpedo is designed to explode under the target ship, breaking the target's keel. This can be seen in the publicly released periscope video in which the stern of the frigate is blown out of the water and the ship is broken into two or three large sections.

FIFY. 

[BannedFromDU]

EarlG (23,588 posts)

A reminder to all DUers reposting content from social media: Check your sources

Given the situation in the Middle East, it's understandable that people want to bring the most up-to-date information they can find to DU. In principle, I'm absolutely not opposed to that. In practice, however, it means that some of the content now being brought to DU is being reposted from sources which are not appropriate for our community.

I am talking about social media sources which traffic in right-wing content, racist content, homophobic content, antisemitic content, and conspiracy content, including anti-vax conspiracy theories. Or, more often than not, all of the above.

I will note that DU's "Don't peddle right-wing talking points, smears, or sources" rule does carve out an exception for such sources:

     Silly me! I thought the owner of DU was telling his simps not to bring unserious, unvetted, non-credible claims to DU, for example: "Iran is beating the US," or "Hundreds of US soldiers have been killed," or other bullshit circling the Internet.

     And silly me, I thought, oh, that's refreshing. They're stupid asshole conspiracy Capricorn One / Parallax View / Manchurian Candidate freaks already, so why not force them to bring actual facts over? But clearly the faggot's main concern is that no one say anything that might offend a butt bandit. And heaven forbid any DUmmy have their 33rd COVID booster criticized.

     Silly me.

[SVPete]

FIFY. 

The Dena was a bit over 1600 tons and was armed with a 76 mm (~3") gun, anti-ship missiles, SAMs, and torpedoes (as well as 20 and 40 mm cannon).

[Carl]

Notice that for all his stupid lecturing never once did he say check your source to make sure it is accurate and truthful.

[SVPete]

"Anti-vax conspiracy theories"? There are DU-folk who have heard of, let alone posted content from, Snake Oil Salesman Mercola? Or was that an allusion to RFK Jr.'s Children's Health Defense site?

[SVPete]

Notice that for all his stupid lecturing never once did he say check your source to make sure it is accurate and truthful.

Prog orthodoxy is truer than the truth.

[FlippyDoo]

It would be doubleplusgood is Big Brother would post an actual list of the proper Newspeak words that DUers can use AND a list of what is considered a Thoughtcrime.

[ADsOutburst]

Notice that for all his stupid lecturing never once did he say check your source to make sure it is accurate and truthful.

That is indeed telling.

[DUmpDiver]

Only post stuff that's been deemed to be Russian misinformation by 51 career intel experts.

[67 Rover]

Only post stuff that's been deemed to be Russian misinformation by 51 career intel experts.

Or Jim Cramer! 

[BamaMoose]

I think he may be embarrassed by all the pro-Iranian propaganda that's been posted in the last couple of weeks.  Since hostilities started, I've seen DUmmies repost claims that every US military base in the Middle East has been decimated, that the Abe Lincoln was either severally damaged or sunk, that the US or Israel was focusing on destroying civilian infrastructure, that US soldiers were captured by Iran and being held as POW's and that US casualties were enormous and being covered up.  My favorite was a video that came from some Chinese source that claimed Iran was holding back all their best weapons for some big counterstrike.  And they keep bringing up the hypothetical hypersonic weapons (capable of Mach 14!!!!) that Iran claims to have even though there is no evidence that these weapons actually exist.  No one is denying that the US, Israel and the rest of the Middle Eastern countries haven't suffered damage or incurred causalities, but DUers are jumping on every crazy claim coming out of Iran and running with it.  If they think it harms Trump, they accept it as the gospel regardless of how incredulous the claim is.

[SVPete]

I think he may be embarrassed by all the pro-Iranian propaganda that's been posted in the last couple of weeks.  Since hostilities started, I've seen DUmmies repost claims that every US military base in the Middle East has been decimated, that the Abe Lincoln was either severally damaged or sunk, that the US or Israel was focusing on destroying civilian infrastructure, that US soldiers were captured by Iran and being held as POW's and that US casualties were enormous and being covered up.  My favorite was a video that came from some Chinese source that claimed Iran was holding back all their best weapons for some big counterstrike.  And they keep bringing up the hypothetical hypersonic weapons (capable of Mach 14!!!!) that Iran claims to have even though there is no evidence that these weapons actually exist.  ...

DUmmies have been buying and posting that absurd nonsense?

I've been seeing all the absurdities you listed on FB. My favorite absurdity so far was the video showing the sinking of the frigate Dena by the torpedo hitting her several feet above the waterline. I think there are at least some DUmmies who know that torpedoes do not work that way.

ETA: Just saw an AI vid on FB claiming the Lincoln is afire in the Dead Sea.