So the Department of Homeland Security is currently shut down

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EarlG (23,559)

So the Department of Homeland Security is currently shut down

And yet Trump has started a war of regime change against a country that is potentially capable of guerilla strikes on American soil.

According to a CBS report from a few weeks ago, "The shutdown will affect the Transportation Security Administration, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Coast Guard, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency and other agencies within DHS that safeguard national security."

It seems to me that if you're going to start a major war with another country -- especially if you're going to force the leaders of that country into an existential crisis, meaning that literally everything is on the table in terms of their response -- it would make sense to have all those defense and security agencies operating at full strength. And yet here we are.

Of course, DHS itself, along with the rest of the Trump regime, has been describing this as the "Democrats' shutdown" because Republicans have refused to negotiate with Democrats, who simply want ICE to follow the Constitution.

Now, if I were a very cynical person, I might think that not only does Trump not care about an attack on American soil, but he'd actually welcome such a thing, because a) he could blame it on the Democrats for shutting down DHS, and b) it would give him the pretext he needs to declare a national emergency and assert federal control over the mid-term elections.

But gosh, one would really have to lose one's faith in the President of the United States to consider that he might do something so disgraceful, wouldn't one?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221055546

If Biden or Obama did this They would be gushing with praise 🙄

[SVPete]

Yes, the SSA is shut down or is doing very limited services, because of the Dems' anti-DHS snit.

OTOH, Iran has been at war with the US, courtesy of Jimmy Carter, and has been threatening the US with their almost ready long-range missiles. EarlG and DU-folk are not POed that Iran got attacked. They are POed because Trump did it. Had LIEden done it DU-folk would praise his decisiveness and foreign policy genius.

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Of course, DHS itself, along with the rest of the Trump regime, has been describing this as the "Democrats' shutdown" because Republicans have refused to negotiate with Democrats, who simply want ICE to follow the Constitution.

I think it's more like "Democrats want to kneecap ICE", and they think that goal is worth whatever might happen as the result of DHS being shut down.

[SVPete]

Of course, DHS itself, along with the rest of the Trump regime, has been describing this as the "Democrats' shutdown" because Republicans have refused to negotiate with Democrats, who simply want ICE to follow the Constitution.

1. Question-begging fail. Where is the proof that ICE is violating the USC?

2. Gutting or hamstringing DHS is not negotiable.

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EarlG (23,559)

So the Department of Homeland Security is currently shut down

And yet Trump has started a war of regime change against a country that is potentially capable of guerilla strikes on American soil.

Funded by all the money Obama and Biden gave them.

Weird how you traitors will pay for terrorists but not for ICE to remove those terrorists.

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     Democratic Underground, Pre-terror attack on US soil: "That stupid bastard set us up to be attacked on the homeland! Sleeper cells of Iranian agents are here and are about to strike!"

     Democratic Underground, 15 seconds Post-terror attack on US soil: "Pfft. False flag! Trump and his cronies did this. Only terrorist in the US is in Mar A Lago. MIHOP!"

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     Democratic Underground, 15 seconds Post-terror attack on US soil: "Pfft. False flag! Trump and his cronies did this. Only terrorist in the US is in Mar A Lago. MIHOP!"

The current Prog response to any/every Trump action is that he's trying to distract from the Epstein files.